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  • northernbillfan
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    Administrator Emeritus
    • Jul 2002
    • 27551

    What's wrong with Royal

    With all this talk about TG I am wondering if everyone has given up on Royal. He is on track to shatter last years numbers. He is a tough as nails TE who can block and get open in the middle for the tough yards that's expected of TEs.

    The TE position is one of the toughest in the game and Royal seems to be getting his groove now. Why disrupt this with Gonzales?

    Just throwing this out there for discussion.
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  • raphael120
    Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
    • Oct 2005
    • 5152

    #2
    Re: What's wrong with Royal

    Getting his groove? AKA key fumble and stupid drive killing penalties.

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    • mybills
      81 st zoner
      • Jul 2002
      • 61717

      #3
      Re: What's wrong with Royal

      Royal is doing much better this year. Bringing in TG is extra better..but I don't think he's coming here. Royal has come a long way and people got mad at that one play so they want him gone.
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      • northernbillfan
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        Administrator Emeritus
        • Jul 2002
        • 27551

        #4
        Re: What's wrong with Royal

        Originally posted by raphael120
        Getting his groove? AKA key fumble and stupid drive killing penalties.
        Everyone makes the odd mistake.
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        • Nighthawk
          Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
          • Jul 2002
          • 15437

          #5
          Re: What's wrong with Royal

          Given up on Royal? Doesn't that mean that you had high hopes for him at some point in time? This guy is average...at best! He brings nothing to the table, thus this is why so many people would love to get Gonzo.

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          • mybills
            81 st zoner
            • Jul 2002
            • 61717

            #6
            Re: What's wrong with Royal

            An occasional fumble is nothing compared to his rookie mistake of not getting both feet down in the end zone..and he doesn't do that anymore, does he!
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            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67938

              #7
              Re: What's wrong with Royal

              Royal is the classic case of a very good #2 and a mediocre #1. As a #2, he brings blocking ability and leadership as well as the ability to be an occassional receiver.

              I do love him at #2 though.
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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              • madness
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 13690

                #8
                Re: What's wrong with Royal

                Originally posted by northernbillfan
                With all this talk about TG I am wondering if everyone has given up on Royal. He is on track to shatter last years numbers. He is a tough as nails TE who can block and get open in the middle for the tough yards that's expected of TEs.

                The TE position is one of the toughest in the game and Royal seems to be getting his groove now. Why disrupt this with Gonzales?

                Just throwing this out there for discussion.
                I still haven't given up on Royal just yet but he's been an above average blocking TE and a sub-avg receiving TE for most of his career. If anything, Royal needs someone like TG to help mentor him in the passing game so that he can become a complete TE. Either way, there's no doubt Royal is essentially still finding his way.

                TE depth obviously isn't the greatest either. We have Royal and two very raw prospects. If we add TG, I think Royal will thrive in the #2 spot and Schouman and Fine will benefit from watching one the best pass catching TE's in NFL history.

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                • Lexwhat
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2926

                  #9
                  Re: What's wrong with Royal

                  To me, Royal is like Fowler, and I expect nothing good out of him.

                  When the season began, I decided to give everyone a chance (even Fowler), because we finally had some stability.

                  But Royal, Fowler, Schobel, and Ellison have not exceeded my already low expectations for them.

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                  • raphael120
                    Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 5152

                    #10
                    Re: What's wrong with Royal

                    Originally posted by northernbillfan
                    Everyone makes the odd mistake.
                    It's quite the opposite...he may make the odd clutch play.

                    most of the time he is mediocre and hurts the team more than helps, aside from a good blitz pickup and a 6 yard catch here and there, he's worthless.

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                    • Lexwhat
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2926

                      #11
                      Re: What's wrong with Royal

                      Originally posted by raphael120
                      It's quite the opposite...he may make the odd clutch play.

                      most of the time he is mediocre and hurts the team more than helps, aside from a good blitz pickup and a 6 yard catch here and there, he's worthless.
                      This is dead-on.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101232

                        #12
                        Re: What's wrong with Royal

                        Originally posted by northernbillfan
                        Everyone makes the odd mistake.
                        the odd mistake? Are you kidding me? Royal cost us at least two games over the last few years- he missed the block on Freeney that led to a fumble and couldn't keep his feet in bounds on that TD catch (I think it was against Tennessee). This guy makes a TON of mistakes at the worst possible times and has consistently proven that he does NOT keep his head in the game. He's neither a blocking TE nor a receiving TE because he's mediocre at both. The guy is another one of Marv's 2nd tier free agents who can't get the job done.

                        Are we really even discussing this? TG is an instant upgrade over Royal. I'm not saying the Bills should give up too much to get him, but this one's not even close.
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                        • eddiehaskill
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 115

                          #13
                          Re: What's wrong with Royal

                          Take out the first game and his remaining stats in the last 4 games are garbage.

                          7 catches for 50 yards and a fumble....in 4 games! not really record shattering stats

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                          • Forward_Lateral
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 29895

                            #14
                            Re: What's wrong with Royal

                            Royal is garbage. Period. He can't block, can't catch, can't keep his feet in bounds. When he does manage to catch the ball, he fumbles it carelessly. I can honestly say that anyone who defends Robert Royal as a Bill is either related to him, or Robert Royal himself.

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                            • Forward_Lateral
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 29895

                              #15
                              Re: What's wrong with Royal

                              Originally posted by OpIv37
                              the odd mistake? Are you kidding me? Royal cost us at least two games over the last few years- he missed the block on Freeney that led to a fumble and couldn't keep his feet in bounds on that TD catch (I think it was against Tennessee). This guy makes a TON of mistakes at the worst possible times and has consistently proven that he does NOT keep his head in the game. He's neither a blocking TE nor a receiving TE because he's mediocre at both. The guy is another one of Marv's 2nd tier free agents who can't get the job done.

                              Are we really even discussing this? TG is an instant upgrade over Royal. I'm not saying the Bills should give up too much to get him, but this one's not even close.
                              I have to agree with Opi on this one.

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