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  • HHURRICANE
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 15490

    Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

    Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks and admitted that we don't have a good TE on the roster, now what?

    How many more hybrid TEs are we going to keep drafting until we get a 6-5 to 6-7 guy who can catch the ball?
  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

    I think Royal understands that Gonzalez is a better tight than he is, and will take our interest in upgrading the position simply as a sign that we were trying to improve our team, not that he "stinks." In fact, Royal is probably an average TE in this league, where Gonzalez is a Hall of Famer.

    I still think Schouman could develop, and Fine has not seen the field yet. I wouldn't totally write off the position.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • OpIv37
      Acid Douching Asswipe
      • Sep 2002
      • 101248

      #3
      Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

      I've written off ever getting a quality TE. Think about it. Over the past decade or so, we've had good players come and go at EVERY position EXCEPT TE and possibly QB (although we may have our QB now). It's the one position that no Bills regime ever seems to get right. They just don't value it.
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      • THATHURMANATOR
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        • Jul 2002
        • 69112

        #4
        Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
        Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks and admitted that we don't have a good TE on the roster, now what?

        How many more hybrid TEs are we going to keep drafting until we get a 6-5 to 6-7 guy who can catch the ball?
        What do you mean now what? If the guy has any heart this will wake him up and he will play harder.

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        • Mad Bomber
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 12927

          #5
          Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

          Originally posted by OpIv37
          I've written off ever getting a quality TE. Think about it. Over the past decade or so, we've had good players come and go at EVERY position EXCEPT TE and possibly QB (although we may have our QB now). It's the one position that no Bills regime ever seems to get right. They just don't value it.
          We could have had Dallas Clark. Instead we drafted Willis McGahee.
          Dallas Clark went to the Colts on the very next pick.

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          • bigbub2352
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 5386

            #6
            Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

            I am still baffled by why Derek Fine why he is not on IR, here we r going on week 6 and this guy still isnt practicing and has been out with a thumb injury why keep him on the roster ?

            Why not sign someone or bring someone in or keep someone that we cutt
            Sometimes this front office makes no sense
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            • Pinkerton Security
              Pinkerton's son
              • Feb 2006
              • 6003

              #7
              Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

              Originally posted by bigbub2352
              I am still baffled by why Derek Fine why he is not on IR, here we r going on week 6 and this guy still isnt practicing and has been out with a thumb injury why keep him on the roster ?

              Why not sign someone or bring someone in or keep someone that we cutt
              Sometimes this front office makes no sense
              Maybe they think hes really good and will make in impact when he gets back. I know lots of us hated the pick, but they obviously like what hes done enough to not scrap him and move on for the year.

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              • Jan Reimers
                Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                • May 2003
                • 17353

                #8
                Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                Originally posted by bigbub2352
                I am still baffled by why Derek Fine why he is not on IR, here we r going on week 6 and this guy still isnt practicing and has been out with a thumb injury why keep him on the roster ?

                Why not sign someone or bring someone in or keep someone that we cutt
                Sometimes this front office makes no sense
                I was thinking the same thing. While Fine may turn out to be a very good player - or not - it makes little sense to keep him on the active roster if he is still several weeks from playing, which seems to be the case.

                The FO had no trouble putting Crowell on IR immediately after surgery, but they seem to be unconcerned about Fine's status.
                Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                • bigbub2352
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 5386

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                  Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                  Originally posted by pinkdogg32
                  Maybe they think hes really good and will make in impact when he gets back. I know lots of us hated the pick, but they obviously like what hes done enough to not scrap him and move on for the year.
                  Well the way i look at it potential or not he is contrbuting 0, and basically is not even mentioned as a guy on his way back fomr injury, i had this same arguement last year about Ryan Denney who came back form injury and was useless, i am not saying Fine will suck but we didnt even get to see him in the preseason,
                  Then they IR Poz last year when he would have been out 8weeks
                  Just saying Fine is a number 3 TE and will contribute very little if at all on OFFense we hope he will live up to his billing on ST, but still i think i would have IR him and kept Tim Massaqoui
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                  • bigbub2352
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 5386

                    #10
                    Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                    Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                    I was thinking the same thing. While Fine may turn out to be a very good player - or not - it makes little sense to keep him on the active roster if he is still several weeks from playing, which seems to be the case.

                    The FO had no trouble putting Crowell on IR immediately after surgery, but they seem to be unconcerned about Fine's status.
                    Also the lack of updates on him, plus Roscoe's quick recovery makes me think this injury is much worse then reported or he had a set back

                    Crowell being put on IR was a message, one that in my opinion was the right thing to do Crowell is good but replaceable, FIne is a waste of a spot right now and we could have someone on the roster that could at the very least help in the redzone
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                    • mybills
                      81 st zoner
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 61717

                      #11
                      Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                      I was thinking the same thing. While Fine may turn out to be a very good player - or not - it makes little sense to keep him on the active roster if he is still several weeks from playing, which seems to be the case.

                      The FO had no trouble putting Crowell on IR immediately after surgery, but they seem to be unconcerned about Fine's status.
                      Crowell can't play all season, Fine can play half a season. He'll be back soon, since we're almost half way now.
                      I didn't come here to fight, I hate fighting. Life is way too short to spend it on fighting! Go fight with yourself, one of you will eventually win!

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                      • THATHURMANATOR
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 69112

                        #12
                        Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                        It was a waste to keep Fine over Crowell that is obvious

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                        • mybills
                          81 st zoner
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 61717

                          #13
                          Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                          Their injuries are different. It makes sense.
                          I didn't come here to fight, I hate fighting. Life is way too short to spend it on fighting! Go fight with yourself, one of you will eventually win!

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                          • Bling
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 13022

                            #14
                            Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                            Anthony Fasano for Lee Evans?

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                            • Lexwhat
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2926

                              #15
                              Re: Okay, so now that we told Royal he stinks...

                              Originally posted by bigbub2352
                              I am still baffled by why Derek Fine why he is not on IR, here we r going on week 6 and this guy still isnt practicing and has been out with a thumb injury why keep him on the roster ?

                              Why not sign someone or bring someone in or keep someone that we cutt
                              Sometimes this front office makes no sense

                              Don't you think the PUP List would have been a smarter choice for Derek Fine? He would have been inactive for the 1st 6 weeks of the season, and then the Bills have a 3 week window to either place him on IR or promote him back to the active roster.

                              I'm not sure what the provisions are though, or when a player can be placed on PUP.

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