Forked Thread: My observations from the game

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Dr. Lecter
    Zero for Zero!
    • Mar 2003
    • 67938

    Forked Thread: My observations from the game

    Forked from: My observations from the game

    Originally posted by Nighthawk
    I disagree with you about Fewell...I know you're not surprised. He is far from one of the best coordinators in this league. He is very average...at best and is worse when he is on the road. I don't want to be negative today, so I'm not going to go any further about this.
    That's fine.

    We will agree to disagree, but can fork the discussion .

    Looking at what this defense is doing, it is hard to criticize him except for the Cardinals game. Look at the rushing numbers. Look at the overall numbers. Look at the scoring numbers. Look at the 3rd down defense.

    I know you want more blitzing, but the blitz works best when mixed and used when needed. One can't do it all of the time.
    Originally posted by mysticsoto
    Lecter is right in everything he said.
  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    #2
    Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

    I really don't understand you tonight...are you drunk?

    Comment

    • Dr. Lecter
      Zero for Zero!
      • Mar 2003
      • 67938

      #3
      Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

      No.
      Not at all. I thought we could discuss this in a separate thread.

      If you don't want to do so, that is fine.

      You don't like him and I do. We can leave it at that.
      Originally posted by mysticsoto
      Lecter is right in everything he said.

      Comment

      • Nighthawk
        Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
        • Jul 2002
        • 15437

        #4
        Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
        No.
        Not at all. I thought we could discuss this in a separate thread.

        If you don't want to do so, that is fine.

        You don't like him and I do. We can leave it at that.
        No, I just think you're way to giddy right now to argue rationally. Today was awesome, but some of your points are driven off the excitement of today, not the entire picture.

        Comment

        • gr8slayer
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 20796

          #5
          Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

          Originally posted by Nighthawk
          No, I just think you're way to giddy right now to argue rationally. Today was awesome, but some of your points are driven off the excitement of today, not the entire picture.
          I think Fewell is doing a fine job thus far this season, does that make me irrational too?

          Comment

          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

            Originally posted by gr8slayer
            I think Fewell is doing a fine job thus far this season, does that make me irrational too?
            Do I need to go fork some of your posts last week or anybody's from last week? Up until then, that was the only "good" offense we had played and he was horrible. Now, this is why I didn't want to get into this because it sounds like I'm being negative, when there is nothing to be negative about on a day like today. However, Rivers was more effective helping the Bills than Fewell was. Rivers fumbled the ball on his own and then he threw a bad interception when the Chargers are about to go ahead. Yes, Mitchell got to Rivers for another fumble...off of the blitz...and ended any hopes of comeback. I just think that too many people are getting ahead of themselves because of the excitement of the day.

            Comment

            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67938

              #7
              Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

              Originally posted by Nighthawk
              No, I just think you're way to giddy right now to argue rationally. Today was awesome, but some of your points are driven off the excitement of today, not the entire picture.
              Not at all.

              4th in 3rd down defense.

              8th in passing.

              9th in scoring

              9th in yards.

              That is the entire picture.
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

              Comment

              • Philagape
                WIN NOW
                • Jul 2002
                • 19432

                #8
                Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                He's really improved this year. It's easier to be aggressive with Poz, Stroud and Mitchell on the field, unlike last year
                "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

                2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
                2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

                Comment

                • gr8slayer
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 20796

                  #9
                  Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                  Originally posted by Nighthawk
                  Do I need to go fork some of your posts last week or anybody's from last week? Up until then, that was the only "good" offense we had played and he was horrible. Now, this is why I didn't want to get into this because it sounds like I'm being negative, when there is nothing to be negative about on a day like today. However, Rivers was more effective helping the Bills than Fewell was. Rivers fumbled the ball on his own and then he threw a bad interception when the Chargers are about to go ahead. Yes, Mitchell got to Rivers for another fumble...off of the blitz...and ended any hopes of comeback. I just think that too many people are getting ahead of themselves because of the excitement of the day.
                  You won't find any, I've made it a point not to post here lately. If you can't recognize that the defense is much improved from the previous two years then I don't know what to tell you. The fact that we held one of the best offenses in the league to almost 15 points less than they average should tell you most of what you need to know.

                  I have not gone back and read everything you've said about the defense but Lecter mentioned that you think we need to blitz more. It's simply not the kind of scheme that is based on blitzing.

                  Comment

                  • Nighthawk
                    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 15437

                    #10
                    Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    Not at all.

                    4th in 3rd down defense.

                    8th in passing.

                    9th in scoring

                    9th in yards.

                    That is the entire picture.
                    No, you're leaving this out of the picture...

                    Seattle = #27 in offense in the NFL

                    Jacksonville = #20 in offense in the NFL

                    Oakland = #22 in offense in the NFL

                    St. Louis = #31 in offense in the NFL

                    Arizona = #6 in offense in the NFL

                    San Diego = #15 in offense in the NFL


                    Sorry, but those stats pretty much sum up the picture. He looks great against mediocre offenses, but against good offenses he has his troubles.

                    In all seriousness, I really don't want to dwell on this because today was great and I'm very happy. Point is, I'm not a fan of the coaching staff of this team, but I love my Bills and I'm very excited about this year's start.

                    Comment

                    • gr8slayer
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 20796

                      #11
                      Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      Not at all.

                      4th in 3rd down defense.

                      8th in passing.

                      9th in scoring

                      9th in yards.

                      That is the entire picture.
                      The only statistics that need to improve are turnovers and sacks. Other than that there are few D's playing better. Games like Arizona are going to happen, even to the best defenses and teams.

                      Comment

                      • Oaf
                        Do you read what you write?
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6151

                        #12
                        Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                        We allowed two big TDs on consecutive 3rd and 10+ redzone situations. That was pretty disappointing. Our front 4 was more effective than usual, but our dialed blitzes really didn't penetrate till it was garbage time.

                        Comment

                        • FlyingDutchman
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 5074

                          #13
                          Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                          yeah our pass rush has been a joke the last 2 games

                          Comment

                          • gr8slayer
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 20796

                            #14
                            Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                            Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
                            yeah our pass rush has been a joke the last 2 games
                            And yet we're still managing to win games. No team is lacking holes in it's roster, it's something that I guarantee you will be addressed in the off-season.

                            Comment

                            • Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 349

                              #15
                              Re: Forked Thread: My observations from the game

                              Yeah, I'm not that excited about the pass rush but what the heck we are winning!

                              By the way, I know Schobel has not been playing that good the past two seasons but I think we kind of missed him today in the run defense.
                              I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X