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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    The stat that far and away matters most

    No need to over analyze.

    This is the most simple yet telling statistic to date this year. In the Bills three losses, they have turned the ball over 11 FREEGIN TIMES.

    That's got to stop immediately. If we can't run the ball, that's a contributing factor. But we aint beating anybody in this league turning the ball over 11 times in three games.


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  • RockStar36
    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
    • Sep 2004
    • 24761

    #2
    Re: The stat that far and away matters most

    They have issues all over the place so I'm not dumping all the blame on Edwards but he really needs to learn how to hang on to the ball when he gets hit.

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    • ScottLawrence
      Registered User
      • Jan 2004
      • 1450

      #3
      Re: The stat that far and away matters most

      Originally posted by patmoran2006
      No need to over analyze.

      This is the most simple yet telling statistic to date this year. In the Bills three losses, they have turned the ball over 11 FREEGIN TIMES.

      That's got to stop immediately. If we can't run the ball, that's a contributing factor. But we aint beating anybody in this league turning the ball over 11 times in three games.
      This goes back to the offensive line.

      Getting pressure on the QB causes turnovers.

      The O-Line has allowed way to much pressure and the sad part is a lot of these turnovers have been caused with only 3 down lineman breaking through our line.

      Pathetic......


      I'd really like us to say consistent with the ground game. Too much shotgun, IMO.

      It might not work at first but if we stay consistent with it, the defense eventually wears down.

      This was seen a little bit in the Miami game as we took the first drive of the 2nd half and ran it right down the field for a TD. After that I believe we ran the ball a total of 4 times the rest of the game resulting in a terrible loss.

      Turk did the same thing against the Jets, although the Jets do a much better job at stopping the run then Miami.

      The game plan in New England should be to stick with the running game and much less Shotgun and less 4 and 5 wide sets, IMO.
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      • DraftBoy
        Administrator
        • Jul 2002
        • 107452

        #4
        Re: The stat that far and away matters most

        Well this is only the 10th or 11th thread about turnovers...
        COMING SOON...
        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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        • mchurchfie
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 13418

          #5
          Re: The stat that far and away matters most

          Take the TOs away and we are sitting at 7-1 on top of the division.
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          • djjimkelly
            Registered User
            • Apr 2003
            • 7045

            #6
            Re: The stat that far and away matters most

            Originally posted by RockStar36
            They have issues all over the place so I'm not dumping all the blame on Edwards but he really needs to learn how to hang on to the ball when he gets hit.

            LOL

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            • TacklingDummy
              Unreachable Douche
              • Jul 2002
              • 71725

              #7
              Re: The stat that far and away matters most

              Originally posted by RockStar36
              They have issues all over the place so I'm not dumping all the blame on Edwards but he really needs to learn how to hang on to the ball when he gets hit.
              True.

              He did get jacked up on the last 2 fumbles. I doubt many QB would have hung on to the ball.

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              • TacklingDummy
                Unreachable Douche
                • Jul 2002
                • 71725

                #8
                Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                Originally posted by ScottLawrence

                Getting pressure on the QB causes turnovers.
                Tell that to Perry.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107452

                  #9
                  Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                  Originally posted by TacklingDummy
                  True.

                  He did get jacked up on the last 2 fumbles. I doubt many QB would have hung on to the ball.
                  I dont know that one yesterday wasn't that bad, he's got to feel the pressure better and tuck the ball if he knows he's getting hit.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • RedEyE
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 24661

                    #10
                    Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                    I agree that the turnovers must stop.

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                    • Nighthawk
                      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 15437

                      #11
                      Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy
                      I dont know that one yesterday wasn't that bad, he's got to feel the pressure better and tuck the ball if he knows he's getting hit.
                      There is no way he feels the blitzer coming on that first one and nobody would have held onto the ball...he got lit up. The FB missed his assignment and TE paid for it. I'm not making excuses for him because I agree, he seems to have lost a little feel for the pressure coming, but that fumble on the 5 yardline was not his fault.

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                      • X-Era
                        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 27670

                        #12
                        Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                        Originally posted by patmoran2006
                        No need to over analyze.

                        This is the most simple yet telling statistic to date this year. In the Bills three losses, they have turned the ball over 11 FREEGIN TIMES.

                        That's got to stop immediately. If we can't run the ball, that's a contributing factor. But we aint beating anybody in this league turning the ball over 11 times in three games.
                        Right stat, wrong reporting.

                        I think the real stat is the turnover ratio which stands at -5.

                        Its not just that we turn the ball over, that in and of itself can be overcome. Its do we turn the ball over more than our opponent. The answer is no and thats a huge problem.

                        Its a tried and true rule that the team that turns the ball over the least usually wins.

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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: The stat that far and away matters most

                          Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                          Right stat, wrong reporting.

                          I think the real stat is the turnover ratio which stands at -5.

                          Its not just that we turn the ball over, that in and of itself can be overcome. Its do we turn the ball over more than our opponent. The answer is no and thats a huge problem.

                          Its a tried and true rule that the team that turns the ball over the least usually wins.
                          I never understood why they call that the turnover ratio...it's actually a difference. A ratio would be turnovers gained divided by turnovers lost, so the further from zero the better. And it would never be negative.

                          Anyway, that's my little rant for the night. I agree - turnovers have truly killed this team. I feel as though without the turnovers, we would have gone 2-0, maybe 1-1. If they can have a game with zero turnovers, I'd almost guarantee a win.
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