i was right

[djjimkelly]

i just basically have to throw this out as a general statement.


ive preached jauron is no good = he keeps proving me right

edwards is nothing more then a game manager = he is not a number 1 qb he never was.

and the cover 2 is the biggest joke ive known this since the first day we tried to run it. its a defense thats basic premise is that the other team will eventually make a mistake that = JOKE

this team wont be good till jaurons reign of tragically below average ends.

i dont care who the hell is the qb because we dont have a direction in place

[SABURZFAN]

:blahblah:

[hydro]

Way to pat yourself on your back. Here ya go!

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[Mitchell55]

i just basically have to throw this out as a general statement.


ive preached jauron is no good = he keeps proving me right

edwards is nothing more then a game manager = he is not a number 1 qb he never was.

and the cover 2 is the biggest joke ive known this since the first day we tried to run it. its a defense thats basic premise is that the other team will eventually make a mistake that = JOKE

this team wont be good till jaurons reign of tragically below average ends.

i dont care who the hell is the qb because we dont have a direction in place





Maybe it was that our leading tackler last year is on IR, our leading sacker in the past 7 years is injured, our nickel back who wouldve covered welker is on IR, our starting RG is injured, our best clutch reciever is injured, or our leader of the team is injured.

[Thurmal]

I'll give one thing to you, man.

Jauron simply isn't very inspiring. I mean, this was kinda a must win. The team looked flat as always.

[SquishDaFish]

:bow: I completely agree now

[Mr. Pink]

You know what would happen to this team if we didn't run the Cover 2? Look at the Browns and Broncos defensives for your answer.

We play a style that limits the big play and hopes to clamp down in key situations, apparently this year the clamp down in key situations doesn't exist though.

You really wanna see McGee and Greer man up on Moss, Welker, Coles, Cotchery, Ginn and that's just our division. Throw in Boldin, Fitz, Braylon, Holt, etc from out of division.

In order to change scheme, we need to change personnel...and have to revamp basically the entire defense.

Then again, this plan and personnel aren't working either, this attempt at rebuilding hasn't worked and isn't going anywhere except levelling off in mediocrity...maybe it is time to blow the damn thing up and try again.

[djjimkelly]

You know what would happen to this team if we didn't run the Cover 2? Look at the Browns and Broncos defensives for your answer.

We play a style that limits the big play and hopes to clamp down in key situations, apparently this year the clamp down in key situations doesn't exist though.

You really wanna see McGee and Greer man up on Moss, Welker, Coles, Cotchery, Ginn and that's just our division. Throw in Boldin, Fitz, Braylon, Holt, etc from out of division.

In order to change scheme, we need to change personnel...and have to revamp basically the entire defense.

Then again, this plan and personnel aren't working either, this attempt at rebuilding hasn't worked and isn't going anywhere except levelling off in mediocrity...maybe it is time to blow the damn thing up and try again.


while i agree that we would be giving up big plays left and right and least we would have a chance to create big plays.

i think it would equal out. bottom line a REAL change must happen.

im to a point where i dont care who anyone is on the team just have a direction and look like you are trying.

[THATHURMANATOR]

i just basically have to throw this out as a general statement.


ive preached jauron is no good = he keeps proving me right

edwards is nothing more then a game manager = he is not a number 1 qb he never was.

and the cover 2 is the biggest joke ive known this since the first day we tried to run it. its a defense thats basic premise is that the other team will eventually make a mistake that = JOKE

this team wont be good till jaurons reign of tragically below average ends.

i dont care who the hell is the qb because we dont have a direction in placeWhat do you want us to print you out a gold medal?

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[djjimkelly]

What do you want us to print you out a gold medal?

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no the shame is im a regular joe and i could clearly see what was wrong with this team.

we have supposed hired guns running this **** who have no clue.

we dont draft big men the only one we have in last 3 years (mccargo) is riding the bench. and i think that has more to do with politics then talent

i dont want a medal i want this team to be a factor.

[patmoran2006]

People who write off Trent Edwards because of a bad stretch over a few games are a complete and utter JOKE to me, and not worth the energy it takes to type in here and talk about football.

[djjimkelly]

People who write off Trent Edwards because of a bad stretch over a few games are a complete and utter JOKE to me, and not worth the energy it takes to type in here and talk about football.


while i agree with you. i will also say given the state of the FO and coaches we can write off anyone.

but i still think the coaching staff screwed up with the qb call.

next year i get to be right about that too

[patmoran2006]

while i agree with you. i will also say given the state of the FO and coaches we can write off anyone.

but i still think the coaching staff screwed up with the qb call.

next year i get to be right about that too
QB call as in terms that JP should be the starter and not Edwards???

ha.........ha...............ha

[djjimkelly]

QB call as in terms that JP should be the starter and not Edwards???

ha.........ha...............ha

laugh away a proper coach that plays to their qbs strentghs
can and will make him into a player.

btw i still havent seen the other guy do better then 7-9

and ill call it now we will be 7-9 this year too.

[Turbo.GUN.Hawk!]

You might have been right about Jauron but I don't think anyone was sold on him and many of us never liked him since he was signed. I don't think anyone intelligent should credit themselves for something that simple.

About Edwards, you may feel you are right now but just wait and you will see. Two crappy games isn't enough to make such a judgment specially considering the way he has played in the rest of the games.

About the Cover-Two, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the 2006 Colts and the 2006 Bears played the Tampa-Two which is a type of Cover-Two? I'm not a big fan of the Cover-Two to be totally honest and I don't think we have the players to run it but still you sound like if you are crediting yourself for saying that this system blows when actually many teams have had a lot of success with it.


So basically you thought Jauron is not a good coach... wow, how many of us have said that? Should we all start our own threads?

[djjimkelly]

You might have been right about Jauron but I don't think anyone was sold on him and many of us never liked him since he was signed. I don't think anyone intelligent should credit themselves for something that simple.

About Edwards, you may feel you are right now but just wait and you will see. Two crappy games isn't enough to make such a judgment specially considering the way he has played in the rest of the games.

About the Cover-Two, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the 2006 Colts and the 2006 Bears played the Tampa-Two which is a type of Cover-Two? I'm not a big fan of the Cover-Two to be totally honest and I don't think we have the players to run it but still you sound like if you are crediting yourself for saying that this system blows when actually many teams have had a lot of success with it.


So basically you thought Jauron is not a good coach... wow, how many of us have said that? Should we all start our own threads?


sure. and please with the 2006 colts yes their d stepped it up a couple games in the playoffs that year. but its their O that had them there

[THATHURMANATOR]

no the shame is im a regular joe and i could clearly see what was wrong with this team.

we have supposed hired guns running this **** who have no clue.

we dont draft big men the only one we have in last 3 years (mccargo) is riding the bench. and i think that has more to do with politics then talent

i dont want a medal i want this team to be a factor.
Hmm Mcargo played over half the game Sunday and was being tossed around the field.

[SABURZFAN]

Way to pat yourself on your back. Here ya go!

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:rofl:

[SABURZFAN]

no the shame is im a regular joe and i could clearly see what was wrong with this team.




:roflmao:

[Turbo.GUN.Hawk!]

sure. and please with the 2006 colts yes their d stepped it up a couple games in the playoffs that year. but its their O that had them there Actually the Colts offense played extremely bad games against the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs. I think Manning throw for more interceptions than touchdowns but the defense was able to stop Larry Johnson's offense and they kept the Ravens with less than seven points or something.
Also, the Colts offense didn't play that good in the superbowl... they played decent but it was really the Bears defense not being able to make much.

The 2006/07 Colts offense is so overrated...

[EDS]

Maybe it was that our leading tackler last year is on IR, our leading sacker in the past 7 years is injured, our nickel back who wouldve covered welker is on IR, our starting RG is injured, our best clutch reciever is injured, or our leader of the team is injured.

If you are going to use injuries as an excuse then you need to mention that NE was missing its defensive leader and pro powl safety (Harrison), all world quarterback (Brady), top three tailbacks (Maroney, Morris and Jordan), and two starting offensive linemen (Kazur and Neal).

[EDS]

no the shame is im a regular joe and i could clearly see what was wrong with this team.

we have supposed hired guns running this **** who have no clue.

we dont draft big men the only one we have in last 3 years (mccargo) is riding the bench. and i think that has more to do with politics then talent

i dont want a medal i want this team to be a factor.

The Bills also drafted Kyle Williams in the past three years. He is starting, though not to great effect.

[FinFaninBuffalo]

and the cover 2 is the biggest joke ive known this since the first day we tried to run it. its a defense thats basic premise is that the other team will eventually make a mistake that = JOKE


There have been at least two teams in the last six years that have won the SB running that defense. Monte Kiffin and Tony Dungy are highly respected in the NFL. It is ridiculous to call the defensive scheme a joke.

From wikipedia:


The Tampa 2 is an American football defensive strategy popularized by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers National Football League (NFL) team in the mid 1990s-early 2000s. The term rose to popularity due to the installation and excellent execution of this defensive scheme by then-head coach Tony Dungy and defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin.
The roots of the Tampa 2 system actually are in the Steel Curtain days of Pittsburgh football. Tony Dungy has been quoted to say “My philosophy is really out of the 1975 Pittsburgh Steelers playbook,” said Dungy during media interviews while at Super Bowl XLI. “That is why I have to laugh when I hear 'Tampa 2'. Chuck Noll and Bud Carson — that is where it came from, I changed very little.”[1]
After Dungy became head coach of the Indianapolis Colts and Lovie Smith (linebackers coach in Tampa from 1996-2000) became head coach to the Chicago Bears, they installed the Tampa 2 in their respective teams. During the 2005 NFL season, the Buccaneers, still under defensive coordinator Kiffin, ranked first in the league in fewest total yards allowed, Smith's Bears ranked number two, and Dungy's Colts ranked eleventh. In the 2006-2007 season, the Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings, Kansas City Chiefs, and Detroit Lions adopted the defense.


When executed properly, the Tampa 2 defense is difficult to beat, which speaks for its longevity that it has fundamentally not changed since first introduced in 1996.

Here is the problem for the Bills


The Tampa 2 system relies heavily on the pressure generated up front by the defensive line and does not usually blitz.

The scheme works. The Bills might not have the players or coaching staff to use it properly.

[SABURZFAN]

It is ridiculous to call the defensive scheme a joke.




he thinks Lossman should be starting too.