Answer this question for me...

[Nighthawk]

...is there one player who has grown or developed under this coaching staff? Seriously, I can't think of one player who has improved since Jauron & Co. have been running the show. That, to me, speaks volumes of what trouble we are in if we keep this guy around.

[DraftBoy]

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Fred Jackson

[DraftBoy]

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Brad Butler
Jabari Greer
Trent Edwards
Kyle Williams

I could keep going but I think you get the point.

[gr8slayer]

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Brad Butler
Jabari Greer
Trent Edwards
Kyle Williams

I could keep going but I think you get the point.

All less than average players

[raphael120]

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All less than average players

Too bad our first round/2nd round picks aren't playing like they should...you know...the important players that the whole teams future is relying on.

[DraftBoy]

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All less than average players

Not the point though, he simply asked for somebody to show him players that have improved. One could even make an argument for Terrance McGee, Donte Whitner, Poz, Jason Peters, and Aaron Schobel.

Nighthawk simply wants to lay all the blame at the coaches feet and refuses to accept the fact that we do in fact have less than superior talent. He'd rather find more excuses to blame others than blaming the players for lack of execution of simple plays.

[DraftBoy]

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Too bad our first round/2nd round picks aren't playing like they should...you know...the important players that the whole teams future is relying on.

McKelvin and Hardy are playing well up to expectations, just because some fans don't know what realistic expectations are, doesn't mean they aren't playing like they should be.

[Mahdi]

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All less than average players

None of those players are less than average.

Greer is certainly, without argument an above average CB.

Williams has established himself as a very solid DT.

Edwards, although not lately, has shown that he can play at a high level. Certainly not below average QB. He has led us to a winning record thus far.

Butler is at the very least an average guard. Good at pass pro, decent but not special as a run blocker. That would make him average.


Just because we are losing it doesnt take away from what those players are individually.


Now if you want to say Kelsay and Denney and Fowler are below average then you have an argument.

[OpIv37]

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Brad Butler
Jabari Greer
Trent Edwards
Kyle Williams

I could keep going but I think you get the point.

Agree on Greer and Williams.

Jury's still out on Edwards.

Butler sucks.

[gr8slayer]

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None of those players are less than average.

Greer is certainly, without argument an above average CB.

Williams has established himself as a very solid DT.

Edwards, although not lately, has shown that he can play at a high level. Certainly not below average QB. He has led us to a winning record thus far.

Butler is at the very least an average guard. Good at pass pro, decent but not special as a run blocker. That would make him average.


Just because we are losing it doesnt take away from what those players are individually.


Now if you want to say Kelsay and Denney and Fowler are below average then you have an argument.

Greer is the only player mentioned that I would take on my team. The rest of them are average-below and are easily replaced.

[Mahdi]

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Greer is the only player mentioned that I would take on my team. The rest of them are average-below and are easily replaced.

Our run defense has been pretty good and Kyle Williams has been a big part of that. The only reason our run D sits in 15th spot is because teams have been running the football on us late in games after our D has been on the field most of the game.

Still we only allow 3.7 ypc.

[RockStar36]

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Greer is playing good but I have to wonder where he would stand on another team. Would he even be starting on Tennessee or the Giants?

[shelby]

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Two words: Ashton Youboty.

Too bad he's on IR.

[psubills62]

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Greer is playing good but I have to wonder where he would stand on another team. Would he even be starting on Tennessee or the Giants?

Giants? Sure he would. They've got a good number of decent corners, but I'd say Greer is better than all of them right now, imo.

[psubills62]

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Two words: Ashton Youboty.

Too bad he's on IR.

Nice one, I was actually thinking about how Corner did pretty well this game, but Youboty is the best example by far.