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patmoran2006
11-10-2008, 01:05 PM
I heard on the radio this morning, that no team that has started the season 4-0 has EVER finished in last place in their division. Even if we don’t make the playoffs, lets at least hope we don’t add yet another dubious distinction to this organization.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

blackonyx89
11-10-2008, 01:13 PM
I heard on the radio this morning, that no team that has started the season 4-0 has EVER finished in last place in their division. Even if we don’t make the playoffs, lets at least hope we don’t add yet another dubious distinction to this organization.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

I heard this too on WGR55. From 0-4 and no Super Bowl to 4-0 and no playoffs. This organization's cursed!!!

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 01:26 PM
I'd rather have the higher draft choice.

El Guapo
11-10-2008, 01:31 PM
I know it seems like it, but the season is not over yet.

Go Bills!

mybills
11-10-2008, 02:21 PM
I heard on the radio this morning, that no team that has started the season 4-0 has EVER finished in last place in their division. Even if we don’t make the playoffs, lets at least hope we don’t add yet another dubious distinction to this organization.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
We won't. I have 10k zb's riding on it. :D

Dr. Lecter
11-10-2008, 02:27 PM
Woo hoo! We can make history!

Dr. Lecter
11-10-2008, 02:27 PM
We won't. I have 10k zb's riding on it. :D

Is this guarentee worth as much as the one you made about the Bills winning this weekend?

mybills
11-10-2008, 02:30 PM
That was called being positive.

gr8slayer
11-10-2008, 02:50 PM
I'd rather have the higher draft choice.
Still waiting for you to add Edwards' TD to turnover ratio to the sig....

RockStar36
11-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Even if they make the playoffs it will take some kind of miracle for me to be overly happy about it. The only playoff scenario I see right now is them running through the cupcakes remaining on the schedule, getting lucky in a division game or two, and getting an extreme amount of help. The team I saw yesterday doesn't deserve the playoffs.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 03:19 PM
Still waiting for you to add Edwards' TD to turnover ratio to the sig....

Why? I never did it for Losman.

gr8slayer
11-10-2008, 03:20 PM
Why? I never did it for Losman.
Ah **** Losman. This is a "new era."

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 03:23 PM
This is a "new era."

Same as it ever was.

Some of the homers on here are already counting SF, Cleve, KC, Den as wins.

gr8slayer
11-10-2008, 03:33 PM
Same as it ever was.

Some of the homers on here are already counting SF, Cleve, KC, Den as wins.
Ha, the Bills could just as easily lose all four of those games. In fact, SF is the only one on that list I would want to face right now.

patmoran2006
11-10-2008, 03:35 PM
Same as it ever was.

Some of the homers on here are already counting SF, Cleve, KC, Den as wins.
we beat the bad teams.. and those are BAD teams, except for Denver if they're clicking that day.

No reason, IMO. why we cant win our next four.. If we dont, we're not going to the playoffs, plain and simple.

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 03:49 PM
we beat the bad teams.. and those are BAD teams, except for Denver if they're clicking that day.

No reason, IMO. why we cant win our next four.. If we dont, we're not going to the playoffs, plain and simple.

KC can score with Thigpen throwing the rock, past three weeks he is;
66 of 102, 63.9%, 6 TD, and 0 INT

That comes against NYJ, TB, and SD...

madness
11-10-2008, 03:59 PM
Ha, the Bills could just as easily lose all four of those games. In fact, SF is the only one on that list I would want to face right now.

I wouldn't. That team is going to respond to Singletary soon or later.

In other words, right about the time they play us. :ill:

patmoran2006
11-10-2008, 04:00 PM
KC can score with Thigpen throwing the rock, past three weeks he is;
66 of 102, 63.9%, 6 TD, and 0 INT

That comes against NYJ, TB, and SD...
certainly not a lock. NOBODY is a lock for the BIlls, especially on the road. But KC is a game we should still win--- at least if we're a real playoff contender.

madness
11-10-2008, 04:03 PM
KC can score with Thigpen throwing the rock, past three weeks he is;
66 of 102, 63.9%, 6 TD, and 0 INT

That comes against NYJ, TB, and SD...

Thigpen! 20+ fantasy points the past three weeks. Take that auto-draft! (Got stuck with MH and AS and have been struggling to find QB's ever since)

billogic99
11-10-2008, 04:04 PM
No 4-0 Team has EVER finished in last place <!-- Start Post Thank You Hack -->

Well hey, ther's a plus!!

gr8slayer
11-10-2008, 04:22 PM
KC can score with Thigpen throwing the rock, past three weeks he is;
66 of 102, 63.9%, 6 TD, and 0 INT

That comes against NYJ, TB, and SD...
Thigpen is playing like a man lately. What's worse is that he has more TD's on 60 fewer throws than Edwards does in four freaking starts and three less INT's.

X-Era
11-10-2008, 05:09 PM
I know it seems like it, but the season is not over yet.

Go Bills!

Its not even CLOSE to being over.

But it is only Monday, lets check out the tone by, say, Friday around here.

Nighthawk
11-10-2008, 05:20 PM
I heard on the radio this morning, that no team that has started the season 4-0 has EVER finished in last place in their division. Even if we don’t make the playoffs, lets at least hope we don’t add yet another dubious distinction to this organization.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

I knew this and it is just another nail in the coffin for old Dickey. Do we really need more evidence of how mediocre this guy is?

Novacane
11-10-2008, 05:21 PM
I like thier chances of being the first

Nighthawk
11-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I like thier chances of being the first

Unfortunately, this is a true statement.

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 05:38 PM
certainly not a lock. NOBODY is a lock for the BIlls, especially on the road. But KC is a game we should still win--- at least if we're a real playoff contender.


KC=Good QB, Good WR, Good TE
Bills=Good RBs....

KC's only issue is that there D couldn't stop a team of me, Lecter, Mystic, and Gr8 with you playing QB. But with as pathetic as our O has been it may be a battle of who can be more futile!

Oldbillsfan
11-10-2008, 05:52 PM
KC is playing a lot better than Buffalo is right now.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:04 PM
KC=Good QB, Good WR, Good TE
Bills=Good RBs....



Good running backs would have at least one 100 yard game out of 9.

Nighthawk
11-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Good running backs would have at least one 100 yard game out of 9.

Ouch, can't argue that. Good point.

The Jokeman
11-10-2008, 06:15 PM
KC can score with Thigpen throwing the rock, past three weeks he is;
66 of 102, 63.9%, 6 TD, and 0 INT

That comes against NYJ, TB, and SD...
...but we don't need Tony Gonzalez.

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Good running backs would have at least one 100 yard game out of 9.



Interesting, so then guys like McGahee, MJD, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White, Warrick Dunn, Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, Jerious Norwood, and Ray Rice...they've all had 100+ yard games...

So are they good RB's?

The Jokeman
11-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Interesting, so then guys like McGahee, MJD, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White, Warrick Dunn, Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, Jerious Norwood, and Ray Rice...they've all had 100+ yard games...

So are they good RB's?
You forgot to include that good RB we just played on Sunday, BenJarvus Green-Ellis.

madness
11-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Interesting, so then guys like McGahee, MJD, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White, Warrick Dunn, Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, Jerious Norwood, and Ray Rice...they've all had 100+ yard games...

So are they good RB's?

I don't know for sure but all those backs you mentioned run behind some very good lines. :D

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 06:32 PM
You forgot to include that good RB we just played on Sunday, BenJarvus Green-Ellis.

Ah yes good point, since he did have 100 yd game, is BGE a good back too by your standards?

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 06:32 PM
I don't know for sure but all those backs you mentioned run behind some very good lines. :D


There is also something else that is very interesting about them too.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:34 PM
Interesting, so then guys like McGahee, MJD, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White, Warrick Dunn, Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, Jerious Norwood, and Ray Rice...they've all had 100+ yard games...

So are they good RB's?

Not all of them have had 100 yard games.

Westbrook has rushed for 100 yards and been hurt the majority of the year.
Mcgahee has been hurt most of the year and has 2, 100 yard games.
White has a 100 yard game and 10 touchdowns.
Rice is not the Ravnes #1 back but does have 100 yards.
McFadden/Fargas both play for the Raiders. McFadden has a 100 yard game.
Jerious Norwood has Michael Turner infront of him in Atlanta.

I guess I don't see your point.

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Not all of them have had 100 yard games.

Westbrook has rushed for 100 yards and been hurt the majority of the year.
Mcgahee has been hurt most of the year and has 2, 100 yard games.
White has a 100 yard game and 10 touchdowns.
Rice is not the Ravnes #1 back but does have 100 yards.
McFadden/Fargas both play for the Raiders. McFadden has a 100 yard game.
Jerious Norwood has Michael Turner infront of him in Atlanta.

I guess I don't see your point.

You didnt answer the simple question are those guys good NFL backs or not? The point was to simply get a barometer for what you think is a good NFL back or not. No tricks or back door logic, just a simple question.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
There is also something else that is very interesting about them too.

That they all have less yards than Lynch? That happens when they don't have as many carries as Lynch. Lynch YPC is one of the worst in the league. Sorry but that's not all on the o-line. Lynch has his share of the blame also.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:38 PM
The point was to simply get a barometer for what you think is a good NFL back or not. No tricks or back door logic, just a simple question.

Actually your trick and back door logic was those backs having less yards than Lynch.

DraftBoy
11-10-2008, 06:39 PM
Actually your trick and back door logic was those backs having less yards than Lynch.

No I didnt even notice that until you pointed it out. Like I said it was just a simple question.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:41 PM
Out of the top 41 RB's in number of attempts, there is only 3 with who average less yards per carry.

The Jokeman
11-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Ah yes good point, since he did have 100 yd game, is BGE a good back too by your standards?
I was being sarcastic at him being good though one thing did like watching him was he hits the hole and runs. As one thing am getting tired of with Marshawn is his insistence on trying to bounce the run outside.

TacklingDummy
11-10-2008, 06:43 PM
Anyways, what's your point.