McGees best year vs McKelvin

[Mitchell55]

McGee- 15 games, 1370 yds, 31.1 ypr, 3 tds
McKelvin- 9 games, 888 yds, 26 ypr, o td

This is also McKelvins rookie year.

[Pride]

Nowhere in there do you have attempts listed. What if McGee got 1370 yards on 12 returns while McKelvin has 888 on 85 returns?

[Pinkerton Security]

i think thats been covered by the average...

[mchurchfie]

Our defense was putrid back then too so I am sure that McGee wa getting more than his share of KOs.

[Mitchell55]

Nowhere in there do you have attempts listed. What if McGee got 1370 yards on 12 returns while McKelvin has 888 on 85 returns?


Then look at the average. That shows how good each was. McKelvin in his 1st year is averaging only 5 yards under the greatest returner in bills history.

[Pride]

5 yards per return is VERY significant on returns. Its the difference between the 30 and the 35.

[Mitchell55]

5 yards per return is VERY significant on returns. Its the difference between the 30 and the 35.



But thats also with McGee in his 3rd or 4th year returning kicks compared to mckelvins 1st.

[Kenny]

i think thats been covered by the average...

only to an extent though.

While I dont have anything to back this, -I'd bet that a running back who gets 25 touches a game will average more than a running back who only gets 10 touches.

You have a better chance of a big play with more touches.

[EDS]

But thats also with McGee in his 3rd or 4th year returning kicks compared to mckelvins 1st.

I believe that was actually McGee in his second season - and he only returned a handful of kicks his rookie year. There is also the matter of those three touchdowns. That is not to say McKelvin is a bad returner, just that there is a big difference between being good and pro bowl good.

[trapezeus]

i'm not one the anti-mckelvin boat by any means. i realize he's a rookie, but mcgee also contributed on defense at the time. he wasn't just a special teams expert.

So if you compare the two, mckelvin is showing promise in the return game, but he isn't as helpful as mcgee was during that year he was studly.

I believe one of his returns that season won a guy a truck or 100,000 bucks. i forget which.

[TheMan08]

I like McKelvin returning

[TheMan08]

Just wondering why Rosco doesn't get a shot at Kick offs also?

[OpIv37]

i'm not one the anti-mckelvin boat by any means. i realize he's a rookie, but mcgee also contributed on defense at the time. he wasn't just a special teams expert.



ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

McGee actually struggled on D early in his career, but at least he was out there and not on the bench behind Ashton Youboty, Ko Simpson and Reggie Corner.

[yordad]

McGee had 3 TDs his first year as the main KO returner.

[Marvelous]

Those McGee stats look VERY SUSPECT... I agree with the poster who said that " we need to see attampts".. McGee was on fire that season & was breaking one atleast twice a game. Not for scores, but to the 50-ish.......

--Now if only McGee could play better CB..

[zone]

ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

McGee actually struggled on D early in his career, but at least he was out there and not on the bench behind Ashton Youboty, Ko Simpson and Reggie Corner.
Those so called struggles on D produced 92 tackles 2 sacks and 3 picks… yea he was awful.

[zone]

The 1370 yards came on 52 attempts with 3 TD’s and a long of 104 yards.

The following year he had 1391 yards on only 46 attempts but only 1 td with a long of 99 yards.

Terrence needs to be more involved in the KR game, every year (other that his rookie year when he was not being used) he has had over 1000 yards with over 1300 in 3 consecutive seasons.

[trapezeus]

my only arguement against having mcgee do returns is last year, after long stints on defense, he was immediately thrown back to return. and he looked like he was out of gas. he wasn't hitting he holes.

when he had his great year, he was the number 2 CB and rotating in. Mckelvin is getting decent returns on a ST unit that is largely retooled. i think he's fine.

Arguing over our return yards when the offense can't pick up 1 yard in a critical situation and a defense that can't get the ball back in the 4th seems to be a minor issue.

[mybills]

trap, ya get winded when they put you in after each team had several turns. They should put him in to start the game, then maybe again on the third KO, and the beginning of the 3rd. It can't hurt him or the team.