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patmoran2006
11-18-2008, 10:31 AM
66 consecutive plays run and… ZERO PASSES thrown at your #1 Wide Receiver Lee Evans.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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The first pass of the game (INT tipped at line by <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rogers</st1:place></st1:City>) was intended for Evans. We didn’t ATTEMPT a pass to him the rest of the game.<o:p></o:p>
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Can you even fathom <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Carolina</st1:place></st1:City> not throwing a ball to Smith, or Houston with Andre Johnson? Its impossible for me to comprehend.<o:p></o:p>

NC-BILLS44
11-18-2008, 10:33 AM
Sickening, isn't it!!!

RockStar36
11-18-2008, 10:33 AM
That falls 100% on Edwards' shoulders.

tat2dmike77
11-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Edwards has lost all confidence in himself. Which is why Lynch was our leading receiver. I know it's easy to spot guys open from my couch but come on i saw guys open multiple times but edwards would just dump it off.

patmoran2006
11-18-2008, 10:40 AM
btw, that ended 66 games with a catch in a row.

Thurmal
11-18-2008, 10:45 AM
We are the only team in the NFL that can't get the ball to our NO. 1 receiver. Last night was obviously the worst example, but this nonsense has been going on throughout most of Evans' career.

TacklingDummy
11-18-2008, 11:40 AM
That falls 100% on Edwards' shoulders.
75% Edwards
25% Evans

Lee also needs to get open.

DraftBoy
11-18-2008, 11:42 AM
75% Edwards
25% Evans

Lee also needs to get open.

Lee was open multiple times.

hydro
11-18-2008, 11:44 AM
Lee was open multiple times.

I can attest to that. I keyed in on him a few times and it was quite obvious Edwards is near sighted. Evans was open deep a few times.

Yasgur's Farm
11-18-2008, 11:44 AM
But, but, but... Edwards distributes the ball to everyone.

10 catches for Lynch
3 for Steve Johnson

NICE!!!

TacklingDummy
11-18-2008, 11:49 AM
Lee was open multiple times.

Granted. That's why I said 75% Edwards, 25% Evans.

Maybe sometimes Lee is open and Edwards doesn't see him.
Maybe Lee is open and Edwards doesn't have time.
Maybe Lee isn't open.
Maybe Evans is open but Edwards already threw the ball to someone else.

There's a lot of things that happen on every single play.

This offense is no better than what we had under Mularkey and Fairchild. Turks play calling is just as bad.

RockStar36
11-18-2008, 11:50 AM
I saw Evans jumping up and down in the end zone WIDE OPEN but Edwards must have missed that. I mean, he only had all day to throw the ball last night.

DraftBoy
11-18-2008, 11:50 AM
Granted. That's why I said 75% Edwards, 25% Evans.

Maybe sometimes Lee is open and Edwards doesn't see him.
Maybe Lee is open and Edwards doesn't have time.
Maybe Lee isn't open.
Maybe Evans is open but Edwards already threw the ball to someone else.

There's a lot of things that happen on every single play.

This offense is not better than what we had under Mularkey and Fairchild. Turks play calling is just as bad.


Lee was open on multiple plays where Edwards had time and was still scanning the field. There is no excuse for not being able to locate your #1 WR. Id go 98% on Edwards.

TacklingDummy
11-18-2008, 11:55 AM
Lee was open on multiple plays where Edwards had time and was still scanning the field. There is no excuse for not being able to locate your #1 WR. Id go 98% on Edwards.

Agreed. My point is that its not 100% Edwards fault but it is mostly his fault.

DraftBoy
11-18-2008, 11:56 AM
Agreed. My point is that its not 100% Edwards fault but it is mostly his fault.

Never is 100% on one player, just like the blame is not solely on DJ for the loss.

But it alot more than your 75-25 ratio.

RockStar36
11-18-2008, 01:04 PM
Ok, at least 90% on Edwards then.

OpIv37
11-18-2008, 01:09 PM
Edwards has lost all confidence in himself. Which is why Lynch was our leading receiver. I know it's easy to spot guys open from my couch but come on i saw guys open multiple times but edwards would just dump it off.

The thing is that we're all just fans. If we can spot the open WR's from our couches, a pro QB should DEFINITELY be able to spot them from the field, and the fact that a bunch of 300 lb offensive linemen are chasing him down should make him that much more motivated to get rid of the ball.

Mr. Pink
11-18-2008, 01:11 PM
I was watching the game with my buddy and we were like "how the hell do you not even throw a pass to your best player all game long? Is that even possible?"

mchurchfie
11-18-2008, 01:14 PM
I put 50% on the coaches too. They needed to get in Edwards ass and tell him to start throwing to Evans instead of just letting him freelance out there with his checkdown bull****.

BuffaloBillsStampede
11-18-2008, 01:19 PM
He had Steve Johnson open deep and would have gone for a TD had he seen him. It was late in the game toward the left sideline.

mchurchfie
11-18-2008, 01:24 PM
He left his contacts home last night, he couldn't see clearly beyond 5 yards. :ill:

Michael82
11-18-2008, 04:07 PM
He left his contacts home last night, he couldn't see clearly beyond 5 yards. :ill:
I could definitely see that. I watched about quite a few times where there were open receivers all throughout the game and not even just open, wide open. And this was also when Trent Edwards had a lot of time in the pocket. Meanwhile, instead of throwing the ball to an open Lee Evans, Roscoe Parrish, James Hardy and even Steve Johnson....Trent was dumping the ball off to Marshawn Lynch or Fred Jackson. :ill:

Oaf
11-18-2008, 04:16 PM
BTW, the first pass was intended for Royal over the middle.

Lee was just the closest to the deflection.

So ZERO passes actually.

Philagape
11-18-2008, 04:33 PM
OK, it's 96.7440812 percent Edwards. Case closed.

Michael82
11-18-2008, 05:04 PM
OK, it's 96.7440812 percent Edwards. Case closed.
Exactly! :hi5:

UltimateBillsFan
11-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Edwards moved out of the pocket in the third quarter in the goal line and this resulted in Lee being wide open in the corer of the end zone. They showed this on ESPN's broadcast. Edward's just has no confidence and is not reading the field at all like what he used to.

jamze132
11-18-2008, 11:42 PM
There is something wrong with Edwards.

Michael82
11-19-2008, 12:53 AM
There is something wrong with Edwards.
I've said that since the Dolphins game.

RockStar36
11-19-2008, 09:11 AM
The worst part about this topic is who they were playing. The Browns were just torched for over 300 yards in one quarter by Jay Cutler. I remember seeing those stats and saying I wish a Bills QB could get numbers like that over an entire game let alone one quarter. That makes this all the more pathetic.

Pinkerton Security
11-19-2008, 09:15 AM
I keyed on Lee a lot, and he seemed so open sometimes it wasnt even funny. He was running crisp routes and Edwards just didnt seem to look in his direction. I was getting real upset at Edwards.

RockStar36
11-19-2008, 09:18 AM
I heard on the radio yesterday that for the first time in any recent memory Evans didn't speak a word to the media and took off after the game. Apparently he was pretty upset as well.

M
11-19-2008, 10:32 AM
I heard on the radio yesterday that for the first time in any recent memory Evans didn't speak a word to the media and took off after the game. Apparently he was pretty upset as well.

Seriously. Anything he said would have thrown Edwards under the bus. Saying nothing was probably better.

Lone Stranger
11-19-2008, 10:46 AM
Perplexing situation. The blame starts from the top. Jauron down. He's got to take control of the game. Why couldn't he walk over to Edwards and tell him to throw the damn ball to Evans.

DraftBoy
11-19-2008, 10:52 AM
Perplexing situation. The blame starts from the top. Jauron down. He's got to take control of the game. Why couldn't he walk over to Edwards and tell him to throw the damn ball to Evans.


If the blame starts from the top then it starts with Russ, not with Jauron.

yordad
11-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Ok, at least 90% on Edwards then.The loss, or the fact he didn't throw Evans the ball once?

Um... HELLO people. HE didn't throw his number one the ball. The same #1 who spent a majority of the night uncovered.

Yeah, this loss might be 75% TE fault. But it is 100% his fault he didn't throw to his #1 the ENTIRE GAME.

don137
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
I wonder if Edwards is not a QB made for the cold weather or windy conditions and is better suited in a dome or warm weather because he has been awful lately.
I know he was not great in Miami either but the trend of less than ideal conditions and bad play stands out in my mind.

Michael82
11-19-2008, 01:50 PM
I don't know how true it is, but I heard a rumor that Edwards was pissed off at Lee Evans for something that happened in practice last week. If this is the case, then someone should smack Trent in the head really hard and tell him that he just cost the team the playoffs over some personal vendetta. :ill: :mad:

RockStar36
11-19-2008, 01:55 PM
I doubt that is true because Edwards was avoiding all receivers down the field for the most part. Not to mention he clearly hasn't been the same since the concussion happened.

I'm also not sold on the weather excuse because his best statistical day was during a cold snowy afternoon.

SABURZFAN
11-19-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't know how true it is, but I heard a rumor that Edwards was pissed off at Lee Evans for something that happened in practice last week. If this is the case, then someone should smack Trent in the head really hard and tell him that he just cost the team the playoffs over some personal vendetta. :ill: :mad:


sounds like something the Lickers would make up. :shakeno:

RockStar36
11-19-2008, 02:14 PM
Isn't it ironic that Edwards doesn't throw to Evans when he is wide open and Losman throws to Evans no matter how many people are covering him?

Barb
11-19-2008, 02:47 PM
66 consecutive plays run and… ZERO PASSES thrown at your #1 Wide Receiver Lee Evans.<o:p></o:p>
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The first pass of the game (INT tipped at line by <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rogers</st1:place></st1:city>) was intended for Evans. We didn’t ATTEMPT a pass to him the rest of the game.<o:p></o:p>
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Can you even fathom <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Carolina</st1:place></st1:city> not throwing a ball to Smith, or Houston with Andre Johnson? Its impossible for me to comprehend.<o:p></o:p>

well as a fantasy owner of both smith and johnson let me tell you, they are both struggling too at the moment

!Papacrunk!
11-19-2008, 05:38 PM
I will take the blame. I was hoping that if the Bills won, it wouldn't because of Evans since my fantasy football opponent had Evans left to play, and I only had a 9 points or so lead over on him. Sorry.