Top 20 highest paid players in the league...

[gr8slayer]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-11-05-salaries_N.htm#table


The value of a franchise quarterback shows up on the field, in the Super Bowl and on the payroll.

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger takes home the NFL's largest single-season paycheck this year, earning more than $27.7 million. Roethlisberger, a No. 1 pick in 2004, took his team to victory in Super Bowl XL in his second season.

1. QB Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh $ 27,701,920
2. DE Jared Allen, Minnesota $ 21,119,256
3. WR Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona $ 17,103,480
4. QB JaMarcus Russell, Oakland $ 16,872,400
5. RB Michael Turner, Atlanta $ 16,003,840
6. G Chris Snee, N.Y. Giants $ 14,890,000
7. CB Asante Samuel, Philadelphia $ 14,145,000
8. WR Randy Moss, New England $ 14,006,720
9. T Flozell Adams, Dallas $ 14,005,760
10 .DT Tommy Kelly, Oakland $ 13,978,480
11. WR Terrell Owens, Dallas $ 13,731,560
12. WR Bernard Berrian, Minnesota $ 13,705,000
13. T Michael Roos, Tennessee $ 13,505,520
14. C Jeff Faine, Tampa Bay $ 13,105,760
15. DE Will Smith, New Orleans $ 12,950,000
16. QB Tony Romo, Dallas $ 12,886,600
17. G Travelle Wharton, Carolina $ 12,850,000
18. DE Antwan Odom, Cincinnati $ 12,800,000
19. CB Terence Newman, Dallas $ 12,611,240
20. RB Marion Barber, Dallas $ 12,522,400

Full List:
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/top25.aspx?year=2008

[gr8slayer]

Highest paid player on the Bills team is Lee Evans at $ 11,730,770.

After that it's a monster drop off and Peters is the next highest paid player at $ 3,250,000.

[gr8slayer]

Right now the Bills have the 16th highest total payroll at $ 113,364,927.

[TacklingDummy]

They are adding in Ben's $25 million dollar bonus into that figure. Next year Ben wouldn't even be in the top 25.

[SABURZFAN]

Antwan Odom is getting $12.8 million????? that is totally ridiculous. it's no wonder that Cincinatti sucks. i wouldn't pay that sap $1.28 million a season if i were in charge of the Bengals.

[DraftBoy]

I think Odom's contract is also front loaded.

[gr8slayer]

I think Odom's contract is also front loaded.
Yup, just like most of the contracts owners dish out nowadays.

[TacklingDummy]

Cap value wise for 2008

Manning, Peyton $ 18,704,320
Roethlisberger, Ben $ 7,971,920
Brady, Tom $ 14,621,320
Favre, Brett $ 12,000,000
Losman, J.P. $ 3,068,730
Grossman, Rex $ 3,000,000
Edwards, Trent $ 732,190

[RockStar36]

I guess the only thing than being cheap is to dish out money for garbage like Oakland does.

[SABURZFAN]

I think Odom's contract is also front loaded.


it's even more ridiculous if it is. :shakeno:

[gr8slayer]

I guess the only thing than being cheap is to dish out money for garbage like Oakland does.
Yeah, Oakland is how you don't want to run your franchise. They screw it up for the rest of the league by signing average players like Javon Walker to huge contracts.

[TacklingDummy]

Buffalo Median salary Total Payroll

2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316
2005 $ 654,840 $ 80,937,517
2004 $ 617,650 $ 80,170,229
2003 $ 543,600 $ 73,299,382
2002 $ 390,245 $ 59,603,267
2001 $ 401,734 $ 51,602,563
2000 $ 474,150 $ 54,612,000

Dallas

2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442
2005 $ 384,840 $ 82,234,816
2004 $ 626,234 $ 65,409,479
2003 $ 454,000 $ 81,042,307
2002 $ 317,000 $ 74,138,471
2001 $ 320,560 $ 48,469,232
2000 $ 441,300 $ 50,104,200

Ralph is so cheap he spent more money than Jerry Jones in 4 of 9 years.

[gr8slayer]

Buffalo Median salary Total Payroll

2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316
2005 $ 654,840 $ 80,937,517
2004 $ 617,650 $ 80,170,229
2003 $ 543,600 $ 73,299,382
2002 $ 390,245 $ 59,603,267
2001 $ 401,734 $ 51,602,563
2000 $ 474,150 $ 54,612,000

Dallas

2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442
2005 $ 384,840 $ 82,234,816
2004 $ 626,234 $ 65,409,479
2003 $ 454,000 $ 81,042,307
2002 $ 317,000 $ 74,138,471
2001 $ 320,560 $ 48,469,232
2000 $ 441,300 $ 50,104,200

Ralph is so cheap he spent more money than Jerry Jones in 4 of 9 years.
Like I said before, Ralph's problem isn't that he's cheap. He's just football stupid.

[TacklingDummy]

Like I said before, Ralph's problem isn't that he's cheap. He's just football stupid.


Many people do however consider him cheap. Which is not true at all.

[RockStar36]

He is cheap with coaches, not neccessarily players.

[gr8slayer]

Many people do however consider him cheap. Which is not true at all.
Nah, I disproved that myth with my thread a couple of months ago. Wilson has no problem writing checks, it's just who he writes the checks to that blows my mind. Sadly this doesn't apply when it comes to coaching, I get the idea that he tries to be cheap when it comes to that department.

[RockStar36]

Of course, I haven't figured that out for sure. He could be cheap with coaches or it could be that he wants coaches that won't try to overpower him, which in turn means being cheap with the coach. He wants a yes man that won't challenge him or the FO on anything.

[SABURZFAN]

Buffalo Median salary Total Payroll

2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316
2005 $ 654,840 $ 80,937,517
2004 $ 617,650 $ 80,170,229
2003 $ 543,600 $ 73,299,382
2002 $ 390,245 $ 59,603,267
2001 $ 401,734 $ 51,602,563
2000 $ 474,150 $ 54,612,000

Dallas

2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442
2005 $ 384,840 $ 82,234,816
2004 $ 626,234 $ 65,409,479
2003 $ 454,000 $ 81,042,307
2002 $ 317,000 $ 74,138,471
2001 $ 320,560 $ 48,469,232
2000 $ 441,300 $ 50,104,200

Ralph is so cheap he spent more money than Jerry Jones in 4 of 9 years.



i wouldn't be surprised if Dallas had better records in those 4 years either. when you sign whale s**t like Walker and Dockery, it's easy to see why Buffalo has sucked ass in all of the 2000 years.

[Bulldog]

Maybe Ralph would be better served if he would spend some god damn money on a real coach like Bill Cowher. I'm so sick of Jauron and his lack of emotion that I could puke. And worse yet, his team is a direct reflection of him also, no fire to speak of. You can spend all the money in the world on talent, but unless you have the right coach, it just won't matter. This team makes me sick!

[gr8slayer]

Maybe Ralph would be better served if he would spend some god damn money on a real coach like Bill Cowher. I'm so sick of Jauron and his lack of emotion that I could puke. And worse yet, his team is a direct reflection of him also, no fire to speak of. You can spend all the money in the world on talent, but unless you have the right coach, it just won't matter. This team makes me sick!
People keep bringing up Cowher, why would a guy like that want to go to a place like Buffalo? It would be career suicide.

[yordad]

Um... there is a friggin center on that list/

[gr8slayer]

Um... there is a friggin center on that list/
Your point being?

[SABURZFAN]

Your point being?


he's just clearing out the diarrhea in his mouth.

[Bulldog]

People keep bringing up Cowher, why would a guy like that want to go to a place like Buffalo? It would be career suicide.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to money. And I'm 100% sure that Cowher could take this current team to the playoffs. And what is so bad about Buffalo anyway? You yourself have stated that Ralph will spend money, so what's the problem? An owner willing to spend money and a fan base as rabid as they come in a cold weather city. Sounds like an ideal situation for Cowher. Throw the guy a boatload of money and let the chips fall where they may.

[RockStar36]

We're bringing up Cowher because is the best option now who isn't already coaching another team or involved with an NFL team. We're not even discussing the odds of him wanting to come to Buffalo because it's a pipe dream anyways. However that is the type of coach most of us want in Buffalo.

[gr8slayer]

he's just clearing out the diarrhea in his mouth.
:lmao:

[yordad]

:lmao:That's funny? Are yall like 12?

[gr8slayer]

That's funny? Are yall like 12?
I'm still waiting for you to make your point on your previous statement. What is the problem with a Center being one of the top 13 highest paid players?

[yordad]

Your point being?Was there a point to this thread?

[yordad]

I'm still waiting for you to make your point on your previous statement. What is the problem with a Center being one of the top 13 highest paid players?Um yeah.... well ya see.... center ain't usually one of the top paid players. I thought that went without saying. Didn't realize I had to actually point it out for someone like you with your vast football knowledge. :handball:

[gr8slayer]

Um yeah.... well ya see.... center ain't usually one of the top paid players. I thought that went without saying. Didn't realize I had to actually point it out for someone like you with your vast football knowledge. :handball:
You still have yet to come up with a valid point, it's one of the most important positions on the offensive line. The Center has to know not only what he's doing, but what all of the other four offensive linemen are doing. He's the one that makes all the calls at the line, calls out the blitzes, changes the blocking scheme, etc.... There's a reason why the Center is generally the smartest person on the line.

So again, what's your point?

[yordad]

Again, what is your point? What is the point of your entire thread? I need no friggin point. It was an observation. What is your point? What is your point about my lack of point?

My point is, I was surprised. Do I need more? No.

Did you think I needed a lesson on what a friggin center does? Haha

If one is so important, and you have some point to make about how I shouldn't have been surprised, maybe you want to somehow show that centers get paid on average more then LTs, QBs, DTs, DEs, CBs, etc.

What is your point? Centers should be the highest paid position?

Let's hear it, oh great football master.

[SABURZFAN]

You still have yet to come up with a valid point


that's not a surprise.

[gr8slayer]

that's not a surprise.
I'm quickly finding that out.

[yordad]

I'm quickly finding that out.So, I've been here a year. Maybe you could take "quickly" out of your response. Besides, this isn't the first time we have "argued" about absolutely nothing. I think you think your opinion is fact. And, I think you think your opinions and knowledge are superior to anyone elses. And I think you think I care what you think. Plus I think having two favorite teams is like having two QBs. If you have 2, you probably really don't have any.

I also think it is funny you and SABs are bonding about my "non-point". LOL, pretty ironic considering that dude NEVER has a point. And, I couldn't help but notice you couldn't even respond to my responce about your assinine responce (did you follow).

Hey, I think overall your good for this board, not that my opinion matters. I think you do know football. I think your knowledge is good even though I don't always agree with your opinion. But I also think your "posts" are usually jerks. And I think you think your post way cooler then they really are.

Not all posters have to satisfy their post to you, and defend their points to you. Some can just make a casual observation. If you want to make a point about my casual observation, the burden of proof is on you. I was surprised to see a center on the list. You implied I didn't know what a center does because I was surprised. Shouldn't you at some point provide some reason I shouldn't be surprised if your going to take it upon yourself to tell me I shouldn't be?

So, in the end, you should just ask "why?" if you don't understand something. Then your post don't come off looking like jerks. FYI, I wouldn't normally care what you look like but I needed to kill the last few minutes at work. Peace.

:rantoff:

[X-Era]

Buffalo Median salary Total Payroll

2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316
2005 $ 654,840 $ 80,937,517
2004 $ 617,650 $ 80,170,229
2003 $ 543,600 $ 73,299,382
2002 $ 390,245 $ 59,603,267
2001 $ 401,734 $ 51,602,563
2000 $ 474,150 $ 54,612,000

Dallas

2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442
2005 $ 384,840 $ 82,234,816
2004 $ 626,234 $ 65,409,479
2003 $ 454,000 $ 81,042,307
2002 $ 317,000 $ 74,138,471
2001 $ 320,560 $ 48,469,232
2000 $ 441,300 $ 50,104,200

Ralph is so cheap he spent more money than Jerry Jones in 4 of 9 years.
Ralph is cheap, thats a fact.

1. QB Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh $ 27,701,920- playoff contender
2. DE Jared Allen, Minnesota $ 21,119,256
3. WR Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona $ 17,103,480- playoff contender
4. QB JaMarcus Russell, Oakland $ 16,872,400
5. RB Michael Turner, Atlanta $ 16,003,840- playoff contender
6. G Chris Snee, N.Y. Giants $ 14,890,000- playoff team
7. CB Asante Samuel, Philadelphia $ 14,145,000- playoff contender
8. WR Randy Moss, New England $ 14,006,720- playoff team
9. T Flozell Adams, Dallas $ 14,005,760- playoff team
10 .DT Tommy Kelly, Oakland $ 13,978,480
11. WR Terrell Owens, Dallas $ 13,731,560
12. WR Bernard Berrian, Minnesota $ 13,705,000
13. T Michael Roos, Tennessee $ 13,505,520- playoff team
14. C Jeff Faine, Tampa Bay $ 13,105,760
15. DE Will Smith, New Orleans $ 12,950,000
16. QB Tony Romo, Dallas $ 12,886,600
17. G Travelle Wharton, Carolina $ 12,850,000
18. DE Antwan Odom, Cincinnati $ 12,800,000
19. CB Terence Newman, Dallas $ 12,611,240
20. RB Marion Barber, Dallas $ 12,522,400

You get what you pay for.

Only stupid teams like Oakland, screw it up. Good teams spend money and as long as they spend it on the right players, they have a good team... yes, itys just that simple.

All we have managed to do is over pay for second tier talent like Denney, and Kelsay.

We are star depleted on this team, it affects us every week, and Ralph wont pay for the level of talent needed to significantly improve.

Dockery and Walker were great moves. Its THAT type of thing that makes us better. We did it one year out of a decade, not every year like we should be and not to bring in one of the top guys.

We wont sign Suggs even though he would be exactly the type of upgrade we need. Thats what Im talking about.

you get what you pay for.

consider this piece as well from a post Pat and I made a long time ago:
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Buffalo Bills

NFL
Value: $885 million (27/32)
Value three years ago: $708 million (25/32)
Market size: 1.1 million (No. 46 nationally)
The team's fortunes are growing at a slower pace than the rest of the league. Playing in outdated Ralph Wilson Stadium, the Bills are already hosting a handful of home games across Lake Ontario in Toronto. The spiffier Rogers Centre brings in more revenue; if Toronto comes dangling more goodies to lure the Bills full-time, Buffalo will have a hard time trying to win a money war.
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Just found the cap figures:

2006 (after CBA) 102 mill
2007 109
2008 116.7

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

Thats a 6.4% increase from 06 to 07, and a 6.6% increase from 07 to 08

so our rate of growth is almost the same (at 6.6% ) as the growth rate of the salary cap.

Now, the cap goes up 7 mill, we make an additional 59 mill, and we cant manage to keep up with the salary cap? Some people must be getting fat bonuses every year.

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and then you look at this and dont say Ralph is cheap?


Bills
2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316

Dallas
2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442

[Owen DeBoard]

People keep bringing up Cowher, why would a guy like that want to go to a place like Buffalo? It would be career suicide.
Probably because the talent is there and has been there for a while but the ****ty coaching has held this team back. I do believe before the season started that Cower picked Buffalo to win the AFC east. So he must know that the talent is there.

[Mahdi]

Highest paid player on the Bills team is Lee Evans at $ 11,730,770.

After that it's a monster drop off and Peters is the next highest paid player at $ 3,250,000.
How is Derrick Dockery not making more than Peters?

[Typ0]

Buffalo Median salary Total Payroll

2008 $ 1,154,000 $ 113,364,927
2007 $ 761,800 $ 108,875,882
2006 $ 736,320 $ 80,924,316
2005 $ 654,840 $ 80,937,517
2004 $ 617,650 $ 80,170,229
2003 $ 543,600 $ 73,299,382
2002 $ 390,245 $ 59,603,267
2001 $ 401,734 $ 51,602,563
2000 $ 474,150 $ 54,612,000

Dallas

2008 $ 1,326,720 $ 146,401,600
2007 $ 699,080 $ 107,376,072
2006 $ 589,840 $ 113,595,442
2005 $ 384,840 $ 82,234,816
2004 $ 626,234 $ 65,409,479
2003 $ 454,000 $ 81,042,307
2002 $ 317,000 $ 74,138,471
2001 $ 320,560 $ 48,469,232
2000 $ 441,300 $ 50,104,200

Ralph is so cheap he spent more money than Jerry Jones in 4 of 9 years.


actually, Ralph is so cheap he spends Jerry Jones' money on Bills players...

[Dozerdog]

This is a skewed stat.


Jerry Jones is a Boom or Bust kind of guy. Here is his blueprint.


Sign huge deals with players, pay them immense bonuses. After a 2-3-4 year run, he gets into cap hell and cuts everyone. He then carries a lot of dead cap space into a few mediocre seasons.

The caveat to all of this, is that when he carries a lot of dead cap space, his profits shoot through the roof. in those years, he pays out very little in actual salary so the rest of the profit goes into the bank. Of course, he then taps that cash to pay out huge bonuses again and the cycle starts all over again.

Ralph tries to follow (albeit unsuccessfully) the Giants style of cap management. Draft well, then try to retain your own guys. If you can't keep them, get rid of them for something.

Both approaches have prooven to be successful around the league.

[yordad]

Both approaches have prooven to be successful around the league.IMHO, one has proved to be successful. The other is merely a fluke at this point.

[SABURZFAN]

:z:

[X-Era]

actually, Ralph is so cheap he spends Jerry Jones' money on Bills players...

Hmmm, 146 to 113, gosh your right... :rolleyes:

And yet the Cowboys are perpetual playoff contenders

[gr8slayer]

Hmmm, 146 to 113, gosh your right... :rolleyes:

And yet the Cowboys are perpetual playoff contenders
That one flew right over your head.

[Typ0]

Hmmm, 146 to 113, gosh your right... :rolleyes:

And yet the Cowboys are perpetual playoff contenders


except that the Bills payroll is supplemented with revenue sharing...