With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

[BillsWin]

While I don't feel he will drop to us, if he does,

Brian Orakpo, Defensive End.

6' 3'' 255 lb

you guys want a pass rush, well he'll bring it to our D line.

In the second round we can get a starting quality LB (however, I have a REAL good feeling about Alvin Bowen. His rookie year cut short before the season, but the guy is a monster. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/584519)

I wouldnt be suprised if Bowen was our starting "Sam" backer next season. (He needs to add muscle this off season.)

So if We are comfortable with Bowen, or go after a FA LB, I see us going DT in round 2.

I love Kyle Williams. He has my High School number (95) and he plays my position (DL) but I think we need a dominate space eater to compliment Stroud and bully the opponent's o-line.

In the second round, Vince Oghobaase (Duke) may be available. He is probably the 3rd-4th best DT in the draft. If we can get him we should.

Schobel Oghobaase Stroud Orakpo

If that Front 4 doesn't get pressure on the QB, I don't know what we could do.

Oghobaase is 6-6 300 lbs and has pretty good speed. He is more that just a run stuffer, he can get good pressure on the QB.

Man if we could get these guys, I'd already call it a day! but, lets move on.

You really think that 3 centers will be taken before we pick in the third? unlikely. Centers can be taken in later rounds, however we have such a pressing need that we should and probably will use one of our first 3-4 picks on one.

If we can get two playmakers in the first and second like Oghobaase or Orakpo, Then we should get one of the top 3 centers in the 3rd.

We shouldnt take Alex Mack in the first. This team has some really pressing needs on defense, and good centers can be found later.

In the second or third, Johnathan Luigs (Arkansas) or Antoine Caldwell (Alabama) should still be available.

Gettin a top 3 player at their position in the 3rd would be great.


In the 4th, I like taking a depth LB. There will be several available. All good pickings. My favorite would be Mortty Ivy from West Virginia.

We are pretty much drafting the best available from here on out, and to be honest I think a couple FA aquisitions will be made, so we wont have too many needs come draft day.

Lets review my mock so far.

1. Brian Orakpo DE
2. Vince Oghobaase DT
3. Antoine Caldwell C
4. Mortty Ivy LB


Now with the 5th pick, I think we look towards a solid backup QB project.

5. You aren't going to believe it but, *deep breath* Heisman candidate Graham Harrell from Texas Tech. I believe he will drop this far. and he will be a career backup, unless he has something that most tech QBs dont have when they are out of the system. Say hello to my 5th round pick, mr heisman hopeful Graham Harrell! Crazy huh?

6. Rashawn Jackson FB, Virginia.
We need a real FB to help spring Lynch.

7. Louis Vasquez OG Texas Tech
Depth pick for our o-line.


So, let me know what you think. Here is my first mock draft on these boards. Go Bills.


1. Brian Orakpo DE
2. Vince Oghobaase DT
3. Antoine Caldwell C
4. Mortty Ivy LB
5. Graham Harrell QB
6. Rashawn Jackson FB
7. Louis Vasquez OG


I'm really interested in what DraftBoy thinks!


EDIT: Oh, and btw, some of you may be wondering why I didnt choose a single offensive "playmaker"

Because we don't really need one. If Edwards is the QB of the future, all he really needs is a better o-line. Look at the starters on Offense:

Trent Edwards throwing to Lee Evans, James Hardy, Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish and my personal favorite, Steve Johnson. All those guys can make plays.

Then you have Marshawn Lynch running the rock, with an excellent change of pace back in Fred Jackson.

You get a good FB in there, a better center, and this is a good offense!

We don't need to draft offensive superheros, we just need to improve our run blocking with a new center, and a better scheme and a true FB.

Shore up the defense and some of our schemes and we have a good playoff calibur team.

[Antoni]

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Good luck with Orakpo, you'll need to tank the rest of the way to get him. With that said I think he's extremely overrated and besides the bull rush doesn't have much

Greg Hardy from Ole Miss will be a pretty good pickup for the Bills and he'll be available in the middle of the 1st which is where you'll probably be picking

[BillsWin]

Re: With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

Good luck with Orakpo, you'll need to tank the rest of the way to get him. With that said I think he's extremely overrated and besides the bull rush doesn't have much

Greg Hardy from Ole Miss will be a pretty good pickup for the Bills and he'll be available in the middle of the 1st which is where you'll probably be picking

I agree that Hardy would be a good pickup. If Orakpo isn't there, I can def see them picking Hardy.

[clumping platelets]

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I just want a talented player

[yordad]

Re: With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

We better make some FA moves. Because our offense needs more then a walk on rookie starting center and FB.

But, thanks for the read. I found it informative.

[Nighthawk]

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I just want a talented player

I just want a good HC!

[Mitchy moo]

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I would like to have the last pick in this draft, not by any trades.

[gr8slayer]

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I just want a talented player

Buffalo is afraid of those types of players, they might actually win some games.

[billogic99]

Re: With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

While I don't feel he will drop to us, if he does,

Brian Orakpo, Defensive End.

6' 3'' 255 lb

you guys want a pass rush, well he'll bring it to our D line.

The last thing the Bills need is another MLB playing DE. They need to start adding size to the Dline and talent to the Oline. I would think the Bills need to rebuild both lines before they do anything else. Than they need to upgrade the LB's.

[DraftBoy]

Re: With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

While I don't feel he will drop to us, if he does,

Brian Orakpo, Defensive End.

6' 3'' 255 lb

you guys want a pass rush, well he'll bring it to our D line.

In the second round we can get a starting quality LB (however, I have a REAL good feeling about Alvin Bowen. His rookie year cut short before the season, but the guy is a monster. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/584519)

I wouldnt be suprised if Bowen was our starting "Sam" backer next season. (He needs to add muscle this off season.)

So if We are comfortable with Bowen, or go after a FA LB, I see us going DT in round 2.

I love Kyle Williams. He has my High School number (95) and he plays my position (DL) but I think we need a dominate space eater to compliment Stroud and bully the opponent's o-line.

In the second round, Vince Oghobaase (Duke) may be available. He is probably the 3rd-4th best DT in the draft. If we can get him we should.

Schobel Oghobaase Stroud Orakpo

If that Front 4 doesn't get pressure on the QB, I don't know what we could do.

Oghobaase is 6-6 300 lbs and has pretty good speed. He is more that just a run stuffer, he can get good pressure on the QB.

Man if we could get these guys, I'd already call it a day! but, lets move on.

You really think that 3 centers will be taken before we pick in the third? unlikely. Centers can be taken in later rounds, however we have such a pressing need that we should and probably will use one of our first 3-4 picks on one.

If we can get two playmakers in the first and second like Oghobaase or Orakpo, Then we should get one of the top 3 centers in the 3rd.

We shouldnt take Alex Mack in the first. This team has some really pressing needs on defense, and good centers can be found later.

In the second or third, Johnathan Luigs (Arkansas) or Antoine Caldwell (Alabama) should still be available.

Gettin a top 3 player at their position in the 3rd would be great.


In the 4th, I like taking a depth LB. There will be several available. All good pickings. My favorite would be Mortty Ivy from West Virginia.

We are pretty much drafting the best available from here on out, and to be honest I think a couple FA aquisitions will be made, so we wont have too many needs come draft day.

Lets review my mock so far.

1. Brian Orakpo DE
2. Vince Oghobaase DT
3. Antoine Caldwell C
4. Mortty Ivy LB


Now with the 5th pick, I think we look towards a solid backup QB project.

5. You aren't going to believe it but, *deep breath* Heisman candidate Graham Harrell from Texas Tech. I believe he will drop this far. and he will be a career backup, unless he has something that most tech QBs dont have when they are out of the system. Say hello to my 5th round pick, mr heisman hopeful Graham Harrell! Crazy huh?

6. Rashawn Jackson FB, Virginia.
We need a real FB to help spring Lynch.

7. Louis Vasquez OG Texas Tech
Depth pick for our o-line.


So, let me know what you think. Here is my first mock draft on these boards. Go Bills.


1. Brian Orakpo DE
2. Vince Oghobaase DT
3. Antoine Caldwell C
4. Mortty Ivy LB
5. Graham Harrell QB
6. Rashawn Jackson FB
7. Louis Vasquez OG


I'm really interested in what DraftBoy thinks!


EDIT: Oh, and btw, some of you may be wondering why I didnt choose a single offensive "playmaker"

Because we don't really need one. If Edwards is the QB of the future, all he really needs is a better o-line. Look at the starters on Offense:

Trent Edwards throwing to Lee Evans, James Hardy, Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish and my personal favorite, Steve Johnson. All those guys can make plays.

Then you have Marshawn Lynch running the rock, with an excellent change of pace back in Fred Jackson.

You get a good FB in there, a better center, and this is a good offense!

We don't need to draft offensive superheros, we just need to improve our run blocking with a new center, and a better scheme and a true FB.

Shore up the defense and some of our schemes and we have a good playoff calibur team.

Well first off your entire thread is off base since you won't acknowledge where you have us picking here. So if we finish in the mid teens I think Orakpo is a solid pick, as would be Curry, but if we lose out then Johnson would be the better pick, or if we win out it would probably be Hardy. So based just on that, I dont like speculation on taking a guy without knowing what part of the round we are picking in, because you set yourself up for too many what ifs.

I like Orakpo as a player he has a good inside move, and can effectively bull rush and use his speed to the outside. He is athletic enough to run down plays after they get past him or to the other sideline. He has good tackling technique and good hand placement to keep OT's off of him. I think he is a pretty complete back but he does poesses the same issue that Kelsay and Denney do and that is that he is susceptible to losing containment. He is so eager to make a play he will lose his assignment and can be beaten back to his own side on a cut back run or a reverse. Also I fear that he will try and use his athleticism (by far his best attribute at his size) in the NFL when he first gets in and struggle as a rookie. While he has a good inside move (well against Big 12 OT's) I dont see the confidence in it, that other DE's show like Hardy. He won't go inside on a big play, he always speed rushes to the outside. That wont work in the NFL.

Vince Oghobaase is a big DT at 6'6, 310 and an ideal 3-4 DT with that frame. He will put on weight for the combine and probably be closer to 330-340. He is right now closer to 325. So he really doesnt fit our DT scheme, and we aren't changing to a 3-4 in the offseason, so I dont think thats a good pick at all. I do like Oghobaase's skill level and what he brings to the field but I think he'll be a Round 1 pick and that he is a 3-4 DT.

Round to early for Caldwell. I dont think any OC really stands out over the rest. Round 4 is where Id go OC, and that would be one of Mack, Caldwell, Luigis, Shipley, or Wood. So I dont think Round 3 is the most optimal position to go OC but I wouldnt be extremely upset over it either.

Ivy isnt a bad pick and we certainly need to go OLB, but a guy like Ivy who runs in the 4.7-4.8 range wouldnt be a better pick over an Anthony Heygood, or Tyrone McKenzie. Personally I really like Jason Phillips and Zack Follett here most of all over anybody else. Phillips is a punishing tacklet and Follett may have some of the best play recognition skills in the Pac 10 which is saying alot with guys like Mauluga out there.

Harrell is too small for me to really like. He can fling the ball make all the throws and reads defenses pretty well but his size and lack of athleticism really hurt him in my opinion. I like guys like Mike Reilly, Jason Boltus, Tyler Lorenzen, and Rhett Bomar all more. I dont know that Harrell can really add much weigh to his frame, so I dont see him as a player with a lot of upside at this moment.

I dont where you got the FB you draft from because he's only a junior and not even on my radar screen for 2010. Id prefer guys like Brannan Southerland, Eric Kettani, Brock Bolen, Fui Vakapuna, or Tyler Roehl.

I like the Vasquez pick a lot I think its a smart pick and he provides good run blocking and pass blocking skills. While he has upside he is a not a project pick by any means.

Overall Id give your draft a C-. You pick good players for the most part but ignore glaring holes at TE, OLB, and S. You confidence in Bowen is not shared by me, and I dont feel as though you do enough to shore up our WR corp either. Needless to say I would be quite dissapointed if our draft went in this direction, because it would show further confusion and lack of direction on the part of the Tripod of Dysfunction.

[Pinkerton Security]

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The last thing the Bills need is another MLB playing DE. They need to start adding size to the Dline and talent to the Oline. I would think the Bills need to rebuild both lines before they do anything else. Than they need to upgrade the LB's.

who is the last MLB we moved to DE?

[billogic99]

Re: With the **th overall pick in the Draft, the Buffalo Bills Choose...

who is the last MLB we moved to DE?

I'm talking about Brian Orakpo's size, 6'- 3" 255 that's a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 MLB. He's way too damn small to be playing DE. Look at our Oline for christ sake, they avg. 315, to try and get around a 315 pound linemen for 4 qtrs with a 255 lb DE it ain't gonna happen. We need 290 lb'ers playing DE if we are gonna play the cover 2, otherwise we may as well just pack it in cause we won't scare anyone. My guess, the Bills will be a 3-4 defense by the end of the decade, mark my words.

[Pinkerton Security]

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I'm talking about Brian Orakpo's size, 6'- 3" 255 that's a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 MLB. He's way too damn small to be playing DE. Look at our Oline for christ sake, they avg. 315, to try and get around a 315 pound linemen for 4 qtrs with a 255 lb DE it ain't gonna happen. We need 290 lb'ers playing DE if we are gonna play the cover 2, otherwise we may as well just pack it in cause we won't scare anyone. My guess, the Bills will be a 3-4 defense by the end of the decade, mark my words.

gotcha, got confused when you said "another".

Still -

Dwight Freeney - 6'1", 268
Robert Mathus - 6'2" 245
John Abraham - 6'4" 266
Terrell Suggs - 6'3" 260
Demarcus Ware - 6'4" 262

There are many other very successful "Tweener" types in the NFL, and if you really think we will be a 3-4 (which i doubt) you would be ecstatic about Orakpo because he is perfect as a OLB in that scheme.

[X-Era]

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Well first off your entire thread is off base since you won't acknowledge where you have us picking here. So if we finish in the mid teens I think Orakpo is a solid pick, as would be Curry, but if we lose out then Johnson would be the better pick, or if we win out it would probably be Hardy. So based just on that, I dont like speculation on taking a guy without knowing what part of the round we are picking in, because you set yourself up for too many what ifs.

I like Orakpo as a player he has a good inside move, and can effectively bull rush and use his speed to the outside. He is athletic enough to run down plays after they get past him or to the other sideline. He has good tackling technique and good hand placement to keep OT's off of him. I think he is a pretty complete back but he does poesses the same issue that Kelsay and Denney do and that is that he is susceptible to losing containment. He is so eager to make a play he will lose his assignment and can be beaten back to his own side on a cut back run or a reverse. Also I fear that he will try and use his athleticism (by far his best attribute at his size) in the NFL when he first gets in and struggle as a rookie. While he has a good inside move (well against Big 12 OT's) I dont see the confidence in it, that other DE's show like Hardy. He won't go inside on a big play, he always speed rushes to the outside. That wont work in the NFL.

Vince Oghobaase is a big DT at 6'6, 310 and an ideal 3-4 DT with that frame. He will put on weight for the combine and probably be closer to 330-340. He is right now closer to 325. So he really doesnt fit our DT scheme, and we aren't changing to a 3-4 in the offseason, so I dont think thats a good pick at all. I do like Oghobaase's skill level and what he brings to the field but I think he'll be a Round 1 pick and that he is a 3-4 DT.

Round to early for Caldwell. I dont think any OC really stands out over the rest. Round 4 is where Id go OC, and that would be one of Mack, Caldwell, Luigis, Shipley, or Wood. So I dont think Round 3 is the most optimal position to go OC but I wouldnt be extremely upset over it either.

Ivy isnt a bad pick and we certainly need to go OLB, but a guy like Ivy who runs in the 4.7-4.8 range wouldnt be a better pick over an Anthony Heygood, or Tyrone McKenzie. Personally I really like Jason Phillips and Zack Follett here most of all over anybody else. Phillips is a punishing tacklet and Follett may have some of the best play recognition skills in the Pac 10 which is saying alot with guys like Mauluga out there.

Harrell is too small for me to really like. He can fling the ball make all the throws and reads defenses pretty well but his size and lack of athleticism really hurt him in my opinion. I like guys like Mike Reilly, Jason Boltus, Tyler Lorenzen, and Rhett Bomar all more. I dont know that Harrell can really add much weigh to his frame, so I dont see him as a player with a lot of upside at this moment.

I dont where you got the FB you draft from because he's only a junior and not even on my radar screen for 2010. Id prefer guys like Brannan Southerland, Eric Kettani, Brock Bolen, Fui Vakapuna, or Tyler Roehl.

I like the Vasquez pick a lot I think its a smart pick and he provides good run blocking and pass blocking skills. While he has upside he is a not a project pick by any means.

Overall Id give your draft a C-. You pick good players for the most part but ignore glaring holes at TE, OLB, and S. You confidence in Bowen is not shared by me, and I dont feel as though you do enough to shore up our WR corp either. Needless to say I would be quite dissapointed if our draft went in this direction, because it would show further confusion and lack of direction on the part of the Tripod of Dysfunction.

Harrell too small? Hes listed as 6' 3" 205, thats just fine.

[DraftBoy]

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Harrell too small? Hes listed as 6' 3" 205, thats just fine.

6'2, 205, ideal is 6'4, 215. Harrel at his size and lack of athleticism would be harmed from putting on much more weight.

Also some people are whispering that he's closer to 6'0, 6'1 and that the media guy gave him a boost in his height.