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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Semi-dumb question

    consider the source.

    If Trent wins the next 4 does he completely erase losing the 4 in a row?

    Id say, yes.

    Just as I wouldnt toss him aside after the first big loss, I also wont call him our savior after this big win. Do it for the next 4 games and I will be along way toward being convinced that we have all we need at QB.

  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101255

    #2
    Re: Semi-dumb question

    only if it gets us into the playoffs. Otherwise, he still squandered the best chance this team has had since '04.
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    • X-Era
      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
      • Feb 2005
      • 27670

      #3
      Re: Semi-dumb question

      Originally posted by OpIv37
      only if it gets us into the playoffs. Otherwise, he still squandered the best chance this team has had since '04.
      I agree its been our best chance in a while, but...

      I was just thinking that we have beaten teams we should beat and lost to teams we should have lost to.

      Seriously, look back now. Sea, and SD both are not that great this year, nor is Jax. Yet the Cards may make the playoffs.

      I think we, again, by the record, prove we are an average, mediocre team.

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      • Mudflap1
        Next Question!
        • Nov 2004
        • 3281

        #4
        Re: Semi-dumb question

        It's this simple: the Bills beat crappy teams, and generally lose to decent or good teams.

        Seattle -- crappy
        Jacksonville -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
        Oakland -- crappy
        St. Louis -- crappy
        San Diego -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
        Kansas City -- crappy

        San Francisco is crappy, so that is a winnable game. Everyone else left on the schedule has a winning record. Perhaps they can sneak a win out of there, but, at this point, probably not.

        I think we're looking at 8-8 at best. So no, Edwards is not forgiven. He's a mediocre quarterback (at this point), like Losman.

        Jon

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        • billser
          Registered User
          • Oct 2007
          • 158

          #5
          Re: Semi-dumb question

          Originally posted by OpIv37
          only if it gets us into the playoffs. Otherwise, he still squandered the best chance this team has had since '04.

          Id say he was the reason we had a chance. He was as much the reason for our great start as he was to blame for the 4 losses.

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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: Semi-dumb question

            Originally posted by Mudflap1
            It's this simple: the Bills beat crappy teams, and generally lose to decent or good teams.

            Seattle -- crappy
            Jacksonville -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
            Oakland -- crappy
            St. Louis -- crappy
            San Diego -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
            Kansas City -- crappy

            San Francisco is crappy, so that is a winnable game. Everyone else left on the schedule has a winning record. Perhaps they can sneak a win out of there, but, at this point, probably not.

            I think we're looking at 8-8 at best. So no, Edwards is not forgiven. He's a mediocre quarterback (at this point), like Losman.


            Jon

            I'd say this is more of a reflection on the HC who generally never wins against winning teams in his coaching career.

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101255

              #7
              Re: Semi-dumb question

              Originally posted by billser
              Id say he was the reason we had a chance. He was as much the reason for our great start as he was to blame for the 4 losses.
              see the above posts.

              The reasons we had a chance are:
              1. An easy schedule by luck of the draw and
              2. Brady's injury.

              Those things won't happen next year and we'll be right back in the basement.
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              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490

                #8
                Re: Semi-dumb question

                Originally posted by OpIv37
                only if it gets us into the playoffs. Otherwise, he still squandered the best chance this team has had since '04.
                Wow, so our entire reason for not making the playoffs will be because of guy that is working on completing his first season as our starting QB?

                Sorry, but our DEs have combined for an amazing 4 sacks. We had our most dependable WR out for 3 weeks and our running game was almost not existant.

                Trent may have lost us some games but I saw him win us some games as well.

                I won't blame JP for 7-9 last year and I won't blame Trent for not making the playoffs this year.

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                • Mitchy moo
                  Roways rooking ahread!
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 18380

                  #9
                  Re: Semi-dumb question

                  Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                  Wow, so our entire reason for not making the playoffs will be because of guy that is working on completing his first season as our starting QB?

                  Sorry, but our DEs have combined for an amazing 4 sacks. We had our most dependable WR out for 3 weeks and our running game was almost not existant.

                  Trent may have lost us some games but I saw him win us some games as well.
                  Agreed but we haven't missed anything yet.

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                  • Ed
                    Dude
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 9247

                    #10
                    Re: Semi-dumb question

                    Originally posted by Mudflap1
                    It's this simple: the Bills beat crappy teams, and generally lose to decent or good teams.

                    Seattle -- crappy
                    Jacksonville -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
                    Oakland -- crappy
                    St. Louis -- crappy
                    San Diego -- not completely crappy, but mediocre
                    Kansas City -- crappy

                    San Francisco is crappy, so that is a winnable game. Everyone else left on the schedule has a winning record. Perhaps they can sneak a win out of there, but, at this point, probably not.

                    I think we're looking at 8-8 at best. So no, Edwards is not forgiven. He's a mediocre quarterback (at this point), like Losman.

                    Jon
                    I don't think you understood the question. Winning the next 4 games would require beating 3 teams with winning records and put us at worst 10-6. Obviously if we finish 8-8 and don't beat any winning teams then that is not the same scenario.

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                    • billser
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 158

                      #11
                      Re: Semi-dumb question

                      Originally posted by OpIv37
                      see the above posts.

                      The reasons we had a chance are:
                      1. An easy schedule by luck of the draw and
                      2. Brady's injury.

                      Those things won't happen next year and we'll be right back in the basement.

                      Thats fine but fact is, he led us on a number of drives to win games and played well. Without him, we wouldn't have won those easy games. We wouldnt have gone 5-1 with Losman, ill tell you that much.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101255

                        #12
                        Re: Semi-dumb question

                        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                        Wow, so our entire reason for not making the playoffs will be because of guy that is working on completing his first season as our starting QB?

                        Sorry, but our DEs have combined for an amazing 4 sacks. We had our most dependable WR out for 3 weeks and our running game was almost not existant.

                        Trent may have lost us some games but I saw him win us some games as well.

                        I won't blame JP for 7-9 last year and I won't blame Trent for not making the playoffs this year.
                        Back up a second here.

                        We were 4-0 when Edwards started playing like ****. If he's even mediocre against Cleveland and Miami, we're 8-3 and still in the hunt for the division title.

                        Yes, plenty of other players are to blame as well and it's not all on Edwards. But if Edwards didn't disappear for 25% of the season, we could have overcome those other flaws.
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                        • TacklingDummy
                          Unreachable Douche
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71725

                          #13
                          Re: Semi-dumb question

                          Originally posted by EdwardsEra

                          If Trent wins the next 4 does he completely erase losing the 4 in a row?
                          Trent is already forgiven considering Trent wasn't the only reason the Bills lost 4 in a row.

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                          • gr8slayer
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 20796

                            #14
                            Re: Semi-dumb question

                            If he wins a Super Bowl this year I'll forgive him.

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                            • im8th2buffalo
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 134

                              #15
                              Re: Semi-dumb question

                              Originally posted by gr8slayer
                              If he wins a Super Bowl this year I'll forgive him.
                              Wow! You don't ask much.

                              That would be awesome.
                              It would also be an amazing miracle.
                              But boy it would be nice.

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