Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

[Mitchell55]

They both get alot of pressures, Stroud has 2.5 sacks and 32 tackles while Kris Jenkins has 35 tackles and 3.5 sacks. They are both almost exactly alike in everything. The only difference is that the Jets are a very well known team and Buffalo is a unknown team to alot of people. This is very unfair to Stroud.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Have you actually watched Jenkins play this year? Stroud has been okay, Jenkins has been a flat out beast. Football is a lot more than statistics, I know that's a hard concept for you to grasp but it's a fact.

[OpIv37]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

They both get alot of pressures, Stroud has 2.5 sacks and 32 tackles while Kris Jenkins has 35 tackles and 3.5 sacks. They are both almost exactly alike in everything. The only difference is that the Jets are a very well known team and Buffalo is a unknown team to alot of people. This is very unfair to Stroud.

the only difference is that Jenkins gets a LOT more pressure than Stroud. Did you at least watch the Bills/Jets game? How many times was Jenkins in our backfield vs the number of times Stroud was in theirs?

Jenkins has thoroughly outplayed Stroud in every possible way. As gr8 said, stats are only part of the story. That's especially true for DT and OL.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

the only difference is that Jenkins gets a LOT more pressure than Stroud. Did you at least watch the Bills/Jets game? How many times was Jenkins in our backfield vs the number of times Stroud was in theirs?

Jenkins has thoroughly outplayed Stroud in every possible way. As gr8 said, stats are only part of the story. That's especially true for DT and OL.

Also consider that Jenkins is getting that pressure out of a freaking 3-4 where the Nose's job is to basically take up blockers, he's not only taking up blockers, but he's destroying plays.

[Mitchell55]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

the only difference is that Jenkins gets a LOT more pressure than Stroud. Did you at least watch the Bills/Jets game? How many times was Jenkins in our backfield vs the number of times Stroud was in theirs?

Jenkins has thoroughly outplayed Stroud in every possible way. As gr8 said, stats are only part of the story. That's especially true for DT and OL.

Did you watch the Cleveland game and the Chiefs game. Stroud was in the backfield about 10 times in each. Jenkins also only has 1 PD this year while Stroud has 7.

[Philagape]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Here's the thing about making an argument based on stats:
Someone could not watch a single minute and say the exact same thing.

[Mitchell55]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Here's the thing about making an argument based on stats:
Someone could not watch a single minute and say the exact same thing.

Well even when you do watch Stroud you see he is just as much of a force as Jenkins

[Pinkerton Security]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Well even when you do watch Stroud you see he is just as much of a force as the Jets.

if by Jets you mean Jenkins, then I seriously doubt you watch the games. Jenkins dominates. Stroud plays well. There is a huge difference.

And this is coming from a pretty homer-ish guy. Stroud has been real solid. Just not anywhere near where Jenkins has been.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Neither of them have been playing on the same level as Haynesworth.

[Mitchell55]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

if by Jets you mean Jenkins, then I seriously doubt you watch the games. Jenkins dominates. Stroud plays well. There is a huge difference.

And this is coming from a pretty homer-ish guy. Stroud has been real solid. Just not anywhere near where Jenkins has been.

Yeah it was a typo. Well at least Stroud should be in the probowl.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Yeah it was a typo. Well at least Stroud should be in the probowl.

No, he shouldn't. If there are three allowed in it's Jenkins, Haynesworth, and Shaun Rogers.

[Pinkerton Security]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

No, he shouldn't. If there are three allowed in it's Jenkins, Haynesworth, and Shaun Rogers.

eh, id dare say the browns run D has been worse than ours. nothing to back that up though.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

eh, id dare say the browns run D has been worse than ours. nothing to back that up though.

Neither is anything to brag about, but Rogers has been dominating the middle of the line much like Jenkins has. He just has no talent around him.

[Mitchell55]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Rodgers. He wasnt even able to do anything to buffalo.

[gr8slayer]

Re: Why the Hell is Kris Jenkins a MVP canidate but not Stroud

Rodgers. He wasnt even able to do anything to buffalo.

And Stroud hasn't been able to do anything in half the games he's played in, what's your point? He has not played as well as you keep trying to convince everyone he's played.