Get rid of Losman AND Edwards

[THATHURMANATOR]

Neither have done crap. I would keep Edwards as a backup. Are there any good Free agent QBs this off season?

[gr8slayer]

I hear that Jeff Garcia may be available. I agree with you though, neither has proven that he is capable of being much of a starting QB. I'd be willing to keep Edwards around a while though, maybe learn under a veteran QB and see what happens in a couple of years.

[OpIv37]

I pointed this out last year: Read Marv Levy's book. He describes the best way to groom an NFL QB: bring them along slowly, let them learn under a vet for a year or so and play garbage time, put them in when there isn't much pressure. Pretty much the polar opposite of what was done with Edwards.

So, he may be damaged goods. He may never have been good enough in the first place. Either way, I agree with Thurm. Right now, he looks like a back up and nothing more. We need QB help THIS off-season, and I don't mean another rookie that will take 2-3 years to learn.

[cocamide]

Maybe Edwards isn't the answer, but can this be determined after twenty or so games started?

[gr8slayer]

Maybe Edwards isn't the answer, but can this be determined after twenty or so games started?
No, it can't be 100% determined. But you can get a pretty damn good idea. There are some technical QB issues that can be fixed via coaching, but Edwards has some issues that are strictly player related and no level of coaching can fix them, he has to fix them himself.

[HHURRICANE]

I was hoping for better play from Edwards but I'm not concerned....yet.

A veteran is a good thing but I would be shocked if Edwards isn't the starter next year.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Maybe Edwards isn't the answer, but can this be determined after twenty or so games started?
I have seen enough out of him..... (enough as in NOTHING)

[Joe Fo Sho]

Neither have done crap. I would keep Edwards as a backup. Are there any good Free agent QBs this off season?

Although I can't really see Edwards going anywhere, I've been quietly hoping and praying that McNabb ends up in B-Lo.

[Wally The Barber]

I will look for better crap next year, lol

[X-Era]

Neither have done crap. I would keep Edwards as a backup. Are there any good Free agent QBs this off season?

I cannot disagree with canning both.

However, you do that and you set the team back a minimum of 2 years. Are you 100% convinced that Edwards can never be the guy? If theres any shadow of a doubt, you keep him and add a youngster to compete.

I dont mind the thought of a vet except that it buys you nothing long term. If you were going to do that it ought to be a rule that you also draft one as well.

Its almost like:

If we keep Edwards, we draft a youngster who we think can be a future.

I we let Edwards go, we bring in a vet AND draft a youngster who can be our future.

Keeping Edwards, signing a vet, but not drafting a new future QB is the Losman/Holcomb scenario.

Canning Edwards and only signing a vet is stupid, we have no backup.

Keeping Edwards an only signing a vet buys us one more year until we have to then draft a new future QB if Edwrads fails. It just puts it off one year.

And of course if we keep Edwards and then draft a new future QB, we end up with the Losman/Edwards scenario.

Its a mess, I dont see a good way out. If I were serious about our team and making them better now and for the future, I would trade for a vet that could start AND draft a youngster that could be our future. Having Edwards at that point just give us a backup at the very least. Unfortunately, the Bills have shown they dont have the balls to make such a big move.

[Kenny]

Maybe Edwards isn't the answer, but can this be determined after twenty or so games started?

Though he hasnt shown much, -he might get better.

What left a real sour taste in my mouth are some of the comments he's made about being happy/satisfied with his play, and not willing to take the blame for some of the losses.

I'd be willing to forgive his play being it only his 2nd year and everything, but that **** he's spewed out is nothing short of a loser's mentality.
Crap like that pisses me off, and I completely hate the idea he's our starting QB now.
We really need to address this position in the offseason or in the draft, because we're never going to win with Trent.

[X-Era]

I pointed this out last year: Read Marv Levy's book. He describes the best way to groom an NFL QB: bring them along slowly, let them learn under a vet for a year or so and play garbage time, put them in when there isn't much pressure. Pretty much the polar opposite of what was done with Edwards.

So, he may be damaged goods. He may never have been good enough in the first place. Either way, I agree with Thurm. Right now, he looks like a back up and nothing more. We need QB help THIS off-season, and I don't mean another rookie that will take 2-3 years to learn.

I hoper that you meant to say: " I dont ONLY mean a rookie who will take 2-3 years to learn"

Do you really want to be the Jets this offseason? Every damn year they will be in the will he retire or wont he mess, and they have NO ONE ready to step up. The day Favre retires, the Jets instantly go back to crap for multiple years... unless they get a new up and comer quick. But if Brett retires this offseason, you can count next year out for the Jets. They did nothing to have a young prospect.

I do NOT want a one year solution.

[RockStar36]

When I read the first post in this thread Donovan McNabb instantly came to mind. I'm not really into the whole veteran deal 100%, but I do agree Edwards is looking like a bum right now.

[Typ0]

get garcia and this team is good enough for a deep playoff run....

[X-Era]

When I read the first post in this thread Donovan McNabb instantly came to mind. I'm not really into the whole veteran deal 100%, but I do agree Edwards is looking like a bum right now.

McNabb is the caliper of vet that we ought to be talking about. Not Culpepper, McNabb.

[RockStar36]

McNabb is the caliper of vet that we ought to be talking about. Not Culpepper, McNabb.

Uh...what?

[X-Era]

Uh...what?

Im saying that guys who havent ever gone to or won a SB have no business continuing there mediocrity in Buffalo

Thats a significant difference between Garcia, and Culpepper and McNabb as an example.

[DrGraves]

Cassell?

[Jeff1220]

I'm more worried about new coaching than anything. I can't think of any veteran QBs available in FA except Warner and Kerry Collins. Of those two, I'd prefer Warner, but both are old and have their own glaring weaknesses. Outside of somehow getting McNabb in here, I'd rather see Trent get try to get through what could just be some growing pains (with a new coaching staff).

[Boomstick]

When I read the first post in this thread Donovan McNabb instantly came to mind. I'm not really into the whole veteran deal 100%, but I do agree Edwards is looking like a bum right now.

I agree with McNabb coming here, think it would be good to an extent. But I'm worried people are going to turn on him quite quickly. Hes up and down, as far as his performance and I'm sure if he has two bad games in a row, or hell two bad throws in a row, that everyone would say he was washed up and useless. Seems fans mostly want to forget the good things a player does here.

[TacklingDummy]

McNabb would be nice.

Leftwich is a possibility.

It will depend on how well/bad Trent does these final 4 games.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

ya know, edwards looked like a friggin HOFer the first 6 weeks... wtf happened?

[tat2dmike77]

ya know, edwards looked like a friggin HOFer the first 6 weeks... wtf happened?

It got cold.

[yordad]

McNabb or Garcia only please.

[SABURZFAN]

:z:

[THATHURMANATOR]

Cassell?
No he is good only because of good coaching he is the next Scott Mitchell.

[THATHURMANATOR]

ya know, edwards looked like a friggin HOFer the first 6 weeks... wtf happened?
No he looked decent. His stats were not that good.

[SABURZFAN]

ya know, edwards looked like a friggin HOFer the first 6 weeks... wtf happened?



a comment like this will only lead to false accusations, by the Lickers, down the road. one of those divetheads will claim that it was me who said it. :shakeno:

[justasportsfan]

ya know, edwards looked like a friggin HOFer the first 6 weeks... wtf happened?
crappy teams figured out our coaches have basic football minds.

[justasportsfan]

a comment like this will only lead to false accusations, by the Lickers, down the road. one of those divetheads will claim that it was me who said it. :shakeno:
don't flatter yourself. The only thing zoners accused you of is that you stink . Next time take a shower before going to a zoners get together.

[SABURZFAN]

don't flatter yourself. The only thing zoners accused you of is that you stink . Next time take a shower before going to a zoners get together.



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