Limp Dick

[billsfanone]

Bears 1999: 6-10
Bears 2000: 5-11
Bears 2001: 13-3*
Bears 2002: 4-12
Bears 2003: 7-9
Lions 2005: 1-4
Bills 2006: 7-9
Bills 2007: 7-9
Bills 2008: 6-7
Total: 55-72 (.433)

*fluke

[HHURRICANE]

1 winning season!!!!

A coach that starts 5-1 should be allowed to have a job in the NFL.

[OpIv37]

Bears 1999: 6-10
Bears 2000: 5-11
Bears 2001: 13-3*
Bears 2002: 4-12
Bears 2003: 7-9
Lions 2005: 1-4

*fluke

This is exactly why I've been *****ing about Jauron since the day he was hired. Everyone was talking about how Bellicheck was so bad in Cleveland and that Jauron could be the next Bellicheck. Turns out that Jauron is the next.... Jauron. Wow, who saw that coming.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Off goes Jauron.

I'm done with this.

[TacklingDummy]

Limp Dick's QB during that time...

Chicago: Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller,Chris Chandler, Henry Burris, Kordell Stewart, Rex Grossman.

Buffalo: JP Losman, Trent Edwards.

The Bears record before Limp Dick took over, 1997: 4-12, 1998 4-12. The Bears record after Dick left 5-11.

I think it's safe to say that Limp's entire coaching career he's never had a QB that was any good for any length or time.

[OpIv37]

Limp Dick's QB during that time...

Chicago: Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller,Chris Chandler, Henry Burris, Kordell Stewart, Rex Grossman.

Buffalo: JP Losman, Trent Edwards.

The Bears record before Limp Dick took over, 1997: 4-12, 1998 4-12. The Bears record after Dick left 5-11.

I think it's safe to say that Limp's entire coaching career he's never had a QB that was any good for any length or time.

NE is winning with Matt Cassell, who never even started in college.

Baltimore and Atlanta are winning with rookie QB's. Ben Rothlisberger won the SB his rookie year. Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino do not.

The quarterback can make a coach, or the coach can make a QB, but when you have neither, you get the results that the Bills and Bears have gotten from this clown.

[Jan Reimers]

I think it's Dick's inspiring and charismatic personality. How could you not be ready to go to war for this guy?

[RockStar36]

NE is winning with Matt Cassell, who never even started in college.

Baltimore and Atlanta are winning with rookie QB's. Ben Rothlisberger won the SB his rookie year. Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino do not.

The quarterback can make a coach, or the coach can make a QB, but when you have neither, you get the results that the Bills and Bears have gotten from this clown.

Ben didn't win the SB his rookie year, but yes, he was a young QB.

[RockStar36]

It's not that Dick hasn't had QB's. Sure that can be a reason, but he is the main reason for that. He should be able to identify talent and utilize it.

Bill Cowher had several playoff trips with Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox as his QB's.

[OpIv37]

Ben didn't win the SB his rookie year, but yes, he was a young QB.

his first year starting, sorry.

[TacklingDummy]

NE is winning with Matt Cassell, who never even started in college.

Baltimore and Atlanta are winning with rookie QB's. Ben Rothlisberger won the SB his rookie year. Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino do not.



So it's safe to say those teams had alot more talent on the roster around the QB.

The Bills roster lacks the supporting cast and the QB.

Can't blame Limp for that. That's on the GM.

[billsrule99]

jauron always looks like he's about to cry on the sidelines...i am jealous of the phins having saprano ....he gets emotional and fired up and our coach looks like a colossal ******

[OpIv37]

So it's safe to say those teams have alot more talent on the roster around the QB.

The Bills roster lacks the supporting cast and the QB.

Can't blame Limp for that. That's on the GM.

oh the Bills definitely lack talent.

But when you watch how Jauron coaches in games- play calls, use of challenges, use of timeouts- it's pretty clear that coaching is a problem as well.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Limp Dick's QB during that time...

Chicago: Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller,Chris Chandler, Henry Burris, Kordell Stewart, Rex Grossman.

Buffalo: JP Losman, Trent Edwards.

The Bears record before Limp Dick took over, 1997: 4-12, 1998 4-12. The Bears record after Dick left 5-11.

I think it's safe to say that Limp's entire coaching career he's never had a QB that was any good for any length or time.
Please.

Jeff Fisher is winning with Kerry Collins.
Balitimore is winning with Joe Flacco.

Then you have Norv Turner can't even win with Rivers.

It's not ALL coach, but a lot of it is.

[TacklingDummy]

Bill Cowher had several playoff trips with Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox as his QB's.


Did the Bears have the running game or the defense the Steelers had during Limp's time there?

Curtis Enis 916 yards 3 TDs
James Allen 1120 yards 2 TDs
A Train 1183 yards 7 TDs
A Train 721 yards 6 Tds
A-Train 1024 yards 6 TDs

Do I need to bring up what terrible WR's they had also?

[TacklingDummy]

oh the Bills definitely lack talent.

But when you watch how Jauron coaches in games- play calls, use of challenges, use of timeouts- it's pretty clear that coaching is a problem as well.

Agreed. I want Dick gone also. But its not all on him. The guy who should be held most responsible is the guy who puts the talent on the field and that's the GM.

[Iehoshua]

Agreed. I want Dick gone also. But its not all on him. The guy who should be held most responsible is the guy who puts the talent on the field and that's the GM.
Agreed, the entire franchise from top to bottom is the epitome of incompetence.

[TacklingDummy]

Please.

Jeff Fisher is winning with Kerry Collins.
Balitimore is winning with Joe Flacco.

Then you have Norv Turner can't even win with Rivers.

It's not ALL coach, but a lot of it is.

And Bill Belichick couldn't win in Cleveland.
Dungy in Indy has no where near the defense he had in Tampa.
Billick in Balt. never had a offense like the one he had in Minnesota.
Levy in KC, Levy in Buffalo.

etc...

Agreed it's not all on the coach, talent on the field has more to do with it.

[Novacane]

It all starts with loser Ralph and no one can fire him

[RockStar36]

his first year starting, sorry.

Yeah I guess. He started all but 2 games in his rookie year. Regardless, I understand the point you're making. The Bills suck. I honestly don't even want to see what they will do to embarrass me this Sunday.

[Michael82]

I've said this 3 times in the past 10 years......


FIRE THE COACH!!!!!!!

[Iehoshua]

I've said this 3 times in the past 10 years......


FIRE THE COACH!!!!!!!

...even more evidence that the coach can only do so much and accountability also falls elsewhere.

[Michael82]

...even more evidence that the coach can only do so much and accountability also falls elsewhere.
true...but consider who the other 3 guys were....

Wade Phillips, the guy who is taking the Cowboys down with him this year. They probably won't even make the playoffs! His team is soft and they don't listen to him.

Gregg Williams....what has he done since? The Redskins defense was never that good. Now the Jacksonville defense is getting shredded!

Mike Mularkey....He was an awful coach. But he is going a lot with the Falcons offense. Maybe he's a good coordinator and that's it.

[Michael82]

Oh wait....I forgot that Mularkey was awful for the Dolphins too. He got lucky with the falcons! :D