I'm Happy With The Coaching

[Typ0]

I've seen over and over crap from the QB causing a loss. Every game if just a couple ounces of that crap turns into a rose we win. Things have got to turn around for these guys if they can get a decent QB here. I don't think looking at DJs record is fair he's never had a decent QB and never been on a team that wasn't in a transitional period. The game we are trying to play is not getting the respect it should. Everyone has called them out on having JP throw the ball but I can accept DJs explanation for running the play there. He said:

1) they were lining up stacking the box to stop the run.

2) the clock was going to stop in a few seconds.

This probably was the only chance there at the end to run a pass play. In this case, they are playing run and an incomplete pass won't be responsible for stopping the clock. We needed a first down there to put the game away!

I can understand the bombardment the staff is going to take for what happened. It really falls back on crap from the QB position though. I like the thinking of the play call. They recognized a good opportunity to throw a pass and put the game away. They went for the throat really--they do that a lot and are criticized for not doing it because of crap from the QB position. If a play is made there the game is over and it was a very smart call.

[Mitchy moo]

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Usually I agree with you Typo but you are so far off base here, a act of god is about the only thing that can save you.

First of all, we hear of percentage football from our coaches and the importance of fundementals. So we are on the road and they go for the most statistically poor opportunity, that is a complete lack of direction and shows that the coaches are lost.

Gameplan, execution, adjustments & fundementals = Higher % of wins.

[Oaf]

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Obviously JP should have thrown the ball regardless but, did anyone see how the routes had developed downfield?

[Typ0]

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Usually I agree with you Typo but you are so far off base here, a act of god is about the only thing that can save you.

First of all, we hear of percentage football from our coaches and the importance of fundementals. So we are on the road and they go for the most statistically poor opportunity, that is a complete lack of direction and shows that the coaches are lost.

Gameplan, execution, adjustments & fundementals = Higher % of wins.

I don't agree it was the most statistically poor opportunity and that is what DJ was saying. It was the best chance to throw a pass...in may have been the only chance of throwing a pass. Also, it was a chance to win the game. You have to put people in a position to win it and that's what they did. If the QB can't win it what's the point anyway?

[TacklingDummy]

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Obviously JP should have thrown the ball regardless but, did anyone see how the routes had developed downfield?

Could have just thrown it away instead of trying to scramble.

He scrambles into trouble more than he scrambles out of trouble.

[dasaybz]

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The play call was pretty bad, but the execution was 100 X worse.

[patmoran2006]

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THey "lined up to stop the run" for the four plays before that and we still gained 17 yards,including a first down and had a second and five.

Their coaching today and in general is not defendable. They are the worst in the NFL besides a few cellar teams like KC, Cinci and Detroit. Sadly, we're in the same class as them.

[Typ0]

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THey "lined up to stop the run" for the four plays before that and we still gained 17 yards,including a first down and had a second and five.

Their coaching today and in general is not defendable. They are the worst in the NFL besides a few cellar teams like KC, Cinci and Detroit. Sadly, we're in the same class as them.

that's why they had to throw a pass when the opportunity was there!

[Mitchy moo]

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I don't agree it was the most statistically poor opportunity and that is what DJ was saying. It was the best chance to throw a pass...in may have been the only chance of throwing a pass. Also, it was a chance to win the game. You have to put people in a position to win it and that's what they did. If the QB can't win it what's the point anyway?

Our best player is our punter & he never got a chance to touch the ball. However painfully obvious a run is, it was effective enough to get the clock to run under 2 minutes and we could of still been in a position to win even on the defensive side of the ball.

[Typ0]

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Our best player is our punter & he never got a chance to touch the ball. However painfully obvious a run is, it was effective enough to get the clock to run under 2 minutes and we could of still been in a position to win even on the defensive side of the ball.

no, the clock wasn't going to run. It was at the two minute warning. That's why this was the only opportunity to throw a pass. All the *****ing about playing not to win and all of a sudden people want them to run the ball and punt away to the other team with a minute and a half on the clock. Crap! They went for the win.

[Mitchy moo]

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no, the clock wasn't going to run. It was at the two minute warning. That's why this was the only opportunity to throw a pass. All the *****ing about playing not to win and all of a sudden people want them to run the ball and punt away to the other team with a minute and a half on the clock. Crap! They went for the win.

Amazing that some people don't get it. JP had 2 INT's and 2 fumbles up until that point in the game, so putting the ball in his unstable hands is going for the win?? If we got a first down via running, it would of ended the game as well.

[OpIv37]

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I've seen over and over crap from the QB causing a loss. Every game if just a couple ounces of that crap turns into a rose we win. Things have got to turn around for these guys if they can get a decent QB here. I don't think looking at DJs record is fair he's never had a decent QB and never been on a team that wasn't in a transitional period. The game we are trying to play is not getting the respect it should. Everyone has called them out on having JP throw the ball but I can accept DJs explanation for running the play there. He said:

1) they were lining up stacking the box to stop the run.

2) the clock was going to stop in a few seconds.

This probably was the only chance there at the end to run a pass play. In this case, they are playing run and an incomplete pass won't be responsible for stopping the clock. We needed a first down there to put the game away!

I can understand the bombardment the staff is going to take for what happened. It really falls back on crap from the QB position though. I like the thinking of the play call. They recognized a good opportunity to throw a pass and put the game away. They went for the throat really--they do that a lot and are criticized for not doing it because of crap from the QB position. If a play is made there the game is over and it was a very smart call.

so, you say the QB is crap, but you have no problem with the coaches deciding to put the ball in his hands rather than Marshawn Lynch's with the game on the line? That doesn't make any sense.

It's part of the coaching staff's job to understand the limitations of their players. Don't go for the kill shot with a player who has proven time and time again that he has no killer instinct. That's just plain dumb.

[Mitchy moo]

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Look at the stats and tell me where the money puts the ball??

Team Stat Comparison
1st Downs	23	18
Total Yards	306	372
Passing NO F-In way --->>>>	119	207
Rushing Money in the bank--->>>	187	165
Penalties	4-33	3-25
3rd Down Conversions	6-14	4-11
4th Down Conversions	2-2	0-1
Turnovers	4	2
Possession How did we win this battle??	35:29	24:31

Air/Ground Leaders
Buffalo Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Losman 24/39 148 1 3	NY Jets Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Favre 17/30 207 1 2
Buffalo Rushing CAR YDS TD LG Lynch 21 127 0 35 Jackson 7 31 1 11	NY Jets Rushing CAR YDS TD LG Jones 20 78 1 16 Washington 1 47 1 47
Buffalo Receiving REC YDS TD LG Reed 4 43 0 14 Jackson 6 24 0 8	NY Jets Receiving REC YDS TD LG Coles 5 82 0 22 Keller 3 35 0 20
Buffalo Fumbles FUM LOST REC Losman 3 1 0 Jackson 1 0 0	NY Jets Fumbles FUM LOST REC Ellis 0 0 1

[OpIv37]

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and btw, I hope you're also happy with 7-9 because that's about all this coaching staff is capable of.

It's going to get worse, not better. We don't get to play the two sorriest divisions in footbal next year, plus Brady will be back.

[chernobylwraiths]

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Well you will be happy that Dickie is here for another few years.