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  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    Clayton on WGR

    John Clayton on WGR this afternoon stated that from what he is starting to hear, there is little chance that he sees Jauron coming back after this season. This is a pretty dramatic change from what he has been reporting, so you've got to believe that it has some validity. Everything is a guess right now, but this is something positive for people who would like to see Jauron gone.
  • THE END OF ALL DAYS
    The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
    • Feb 2005
    • 4525

    #2
    Re: Clayton on WGR

    im telling you if dick wins one more game hes back

    loose them both and hes gone

    Mark my words
    In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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    • Nighthawk
      Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
      • Jul 2002
      • 15437

      #3
      Re: Clayton on WGR

      Originally posted by keithtr
      im telling you if dick wins one more game hes back

      loose them both and hes gone

      Mark my words
      I agree that if he loses both that he probably won't be back.

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      • DraftBoy
        Administrator
        • Jul 2002
        • 107443

        #4
        Re: Clayton on WGR

        Won't matter any if there is not a new GM and FO in place.
        COMING SOON...
        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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        • cocamide
          Registered User
          • Oct 2006
          • 2106

          #5
          Re: Clayton on WGR

          Originally posted by keithtr
          im telling you if dick wins one more game hes back

          loose them both and hes gone

          Mark my words
          How would we know?

          1) Let's say he wins a game and is our coach next year. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been hired back even if he lost both?

          2) Let's say he loses both and gets fired. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been fired even if he won one or two games?

          I'm not gonna mark your words.

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          • Nighthawk
            Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
            • Jul 2002
            • 15437

            #6
            Re: Clayton on WGR

            Originally posted by cocamide
            How would we know?

            1) Let's say he wins a game and is our coach next year. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been hired back even if he lost both?

            2) Let's say he loses both and gets fired. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been fired even if he won one or two games?

            I'm not gonna mark your words.
            Nobody truly knows, but everything we do on here is an assumption anyways. It's a pretty good bet that the odds of Dickey getting fired after losing the last two are greater then if he won one or both of those games. It's common sense.

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            • Nighthawk
              Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
              • Jul 2002
              • 15437

              #7
              Re: Clayton on WGR

              Originally posted by DraftBoy
              Won't matter any if there is not a new GM and FO in place.
              I agree and believe that if Dickey is fired, then this will be addressed also. For some reason, I just think that this organization will go away from what we expect them to do and they will actually get a football man in here to turn this organization around. Don't know why and I may be wrong, but I've just got a feeling.

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              • Bill Brasky
                Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
                • Jan 2004
                • 66218

                #8
                Re: Clayton on WGR

                last week he said there was no chance dj would be fired. this week he's all but gone.

                i wish i got paid to report baseless crap 24/7.

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                • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                  The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4525

                  #9
                  Re: Clayton on WGR

                  Originally posted by cocamide
                  How would we know?

                  1) Let's say he wins a game and is our coach next year. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been hired back even if he lost both?

                  2) Let's say he loses both and gets fired. How can we be sure that he wouldn't have been fired even if he won one or two games?

                  I'm not gonna mark your words.
                  I wasn't talking to you
                  In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                  • Owen DeBoard
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 911

                    #10
                    Re: Clayton on WGR

                    Originally posted by Nighthawk
                    John Clayton on WGR this afternoon stated that from what he is starting to hear, there is little chance that he sees Jauron coming back after this season. This is a pretty dramatic change from what he has been reporting, so you've got to believe that it has some validity. Everything is a guess right now, but this is something positive for people who would like to see Jauron gone.
                    I sure hope he is hearing from some very reliable sources.
                    To be the man you got to beat the man!

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                    • cocamide
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2106

                      #11
                      Re: Clayton on WGR

                      Originally posted by keithtr
                      I wasn't talking to you
                      I was being more sarcastic than anything. It's logical to assume that losing the last two games would make it more likely that Dick get fired, but we'll never really know for sure. Maybe the old man was going to fire him no matter what happened. Or, and this is probably the case, Dick keeps his job no matter what happens. These next few weeks will definitely be interesting.

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                      • jamze132
                        Don’t hate…
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 29413

                        #12
                        Re: Clayton on WGR

                        Originally posted by keithtr
                        im telling you if dick wins one more game hes back

                        loose them both and hes gone

                        Mark my words
                        You're telling us?

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                        • MarshawnIsDaMan
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 172

                          #13
                          Re: Clayton on WGR

                          Originally posted by Bill Brasky
                          last week he said there was no chance dj would be fired. this week he's all but gone.

                          i wish i got paid to report baseless crap 24/7.
                          Was this before or after the Jets debacle?
                          The Bills havent made the playoffs since I graduated high school. Lets please make it before Im 30.

                          This is the next superstar RB

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                          • X-Era
                            What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 27670

                            #14
                            Re: Clayton on WGR

                            Originally posted by Nighthawk
                            John Clayton on WGR this afternoon stated that from what he is starting to hear, there is little chance that he sees Jauron coming back after this season. This is a pretty dramatic change from what he has been reporting, so you've got to believe that it has some validity. Everything is a guess right now, but this is something positive for people who would like to see Jauron gone.
                            My problem has to do with the... "then what"

                            Our track record is poor and we have no indication that we are drastically changing our philosophy to improve how we pick coaches.

                            So then it becomes a situation where many want change just for change. But the outcome can be good or bad and in this case, our approach may prescribe the later.

                            I understand and can agree with the reasoning behind not liking Jauron. But I think we have to look at who we would likely get next and what that means for the team as well.

                            To me, the only way to end the perpetual mediocrity is to make a true and significant upgrade; across the board (HC, GM, and talent) would be nice but is unrealistic. But as I have said before, a significant upgrade in talent may still yield a playoff run with a newbie HC or retread. And the opposite may also be true where a significant HC upgrade but not significantly upgrading the talent may also yield a playoff berth... The problem is we are likely to stick to our same ole recipe of a retread or newbie HC, and average talent level.

                            Again, I will always hope that it changes, but I see little to give me a real assurance of that.

                            So, get rid of Dick? yes, OK. But then we better be going after either true and significant upgrades in talent level or get a highly successful head coach.

                            Anything less is more of the same.
                            Last edited by X-Era; 12-19-2008, 05:58 AM.

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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
                              Re: Clayton on WGR

                              Originally posted by DraftBoy
                              Won't matter any if there is not a new GM and FO in place.
                              I disagree.

                              A HC like Cowher could turn this roster into a playoff team IMO, REGARDLESS of the GM and FO.

                              Could Billick? probably not, could Fassel? probably not. Shotty? maybe.

                              We have done at least average in the draft over the past decade. We made blunders with 2 of our 3 trades tomove up (McCargo and Losman) but also made a sound move with Poz IMO.

                              But we also got guys like Peters, and Greer, Lynch, Parrish, and McGee. Kyle Williams was a nice find IMO.

                              What we suck at is FA. But last year we finally made a strong move that paid huge dividends with Stroud.

                              The FO deserves plenty of blame, but a true, proven, successful HC can make up for alot.

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