Merged: All Dick Jauron/Bills HC Speculation Threads!!

[homeslice5484]

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Go watch the live blog right now. Buffalo News reporter said we should hear something soon, no latter than Wednesday.

12:12
[Comment From Darren]
Allen, thanks for hosting these chats every week. They are much appreciated, even if it gives us the chance to reflect on the losses. With the Jets, Lions, and Browns firing their coaches today, do you think Ralph will still wait the two weeks he said he would to make a decision? I want to see Jauron fired, but I'd prefer Ralph not letting him twist in the wind. That will only show prospective coaches that the Bills are a second class organization.

12:14
From what I've heard, Ralph and his front office people are discussing Jauron's fate as we chat. I doubt seriously that Ralph will let the questions about the coach linger for too long.

[billsfanone]

I WANT ANSWERS. I WANT THEM NOW.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I WANT THEM IMMEDIATELY.

[homeslice5484]

dont shoot the messenger...i just copied it from the live blog chat we just had on the buffalo news website. lol

[Luisito23]

I'll even settle for a rumor at this point. It's so annoying not knowing anything!

[homeslice5484]

well its better news that they are meeting right now. The reporter said he expects something soon.

[Crazygoo]

I don't even think it should be a question about keeping him...

[Dujek]

:pray:

[clumping platelets]

I WANT THEM IMMEDIATELY.


I can tell, just look at your avatar :anvil:

[OpIv37]

"soon" is not soon enough. Why did 3 other teams beat us to the punch?

The Lions are the joke of the NFL and even they were more decisive than the Bills.

Seriously, with the scrutiny that Jauron is under, the FO should have had the balls and the decision-making ability to have a press conference first thing this morning to either fire him or announce that he's still the coach (hopefully the former). But as usual, these idiots do everything half-assed and have no sense of timing or urgency.

[justasportsfan]

Ralph will be asleep 5 mins into the meeting.

[Luisito23]

Funny, and sad thing is that I heard on the radio that the Jets had this same type meeting last night at around 2 in the morning.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Football sells emotions.

But I don't know anyone has been successful running a business using emotions.

[Dujek]

Funny, and sad thing is that I heard on the radio that the Jets had this same type meeting last night at around 2 in the morning.

Let's be fair here. There is no way Ralph is giving up a good night's sleep to have a meeting at 2am.

[DraftBoy]

Ralph Inner Circle Meetings should play out like this;

Ralph points at Brandon and says "Fired", points of Guy and says "Fired", points at Modrak and says "Beg for Mercy", and points at Overdorff and says "You stay".

Seems pretty simple to me! Then he agrees with himself to fire DJ and the entire staff.

[JD]

We should bring back public lynchings and settle it ourselves

[tat2dmike77]

"soon" is not soon enough. Why did 3 other teams beat us to the punch?

The Lions are the joke of the NFL and even they were more decisive than the Bills.

Seriously, with the scrutiny that Jauron is under, the FO should have had the balls and the decision-making ability to have a press conference first thing this morning to either fire him or announce that he's still the coach (hopefully the former). But as usual, these idiots do everything half-assed and have no sense of timing or urgency.

Ralph should of been waiting for him in the tunnel after that "game" yesterday with his pink slip in hand.

[patmoran2006]

Honestly, after thinking about things and taking into account the kind of mind frame Ralph Wilson has, this is how I think things are going to go down in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:place></st1:City>.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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1- I think ultimately Dick Jauron will get fired as the head coach. Perhaps he remains with the team in some sort of front office capacity, but I think in the end <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wilson</st1:place></st1:City> knows that once the media and the fans turn 100% against your coach, and going 2-8 down the stretch will lead to his dismissal.<o:p></o:p>
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2- I think after all the interviews and everything is said and done, I think the next head coach is already in house. I think the next H.C. is going to end up being Bobby April. I think even ole’ Fossil Wilson knows he can’t “sell” Jauron to the fans, but he wants to keep more continuity, so April will be given the job. The sell point to the fans will be look at how first time coaches did this past NFL season (Smith, Sporano, Harbaugh). While I personally like April, I do not want him to become our head coach. I think its an easy way out for <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wilson</st1:place></st1:City> to make a change without actually having to do anything to really shake up and change his current structure, of which he likes.<o:p></o:p>
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3- I think you can forget about getting a new GM, and I think that Fewel and Turk are both sticking around too. Ditto for Modrak and likely John Guy (though I’d like to see Jauron take his position). I think this will be a huge sticking point for us hiring April.<o:p></o:p>
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So overall, I’ll be glad to see jauron go, but not happy with April. I think its change for just the sake of making change, and I’m really praying Ralph has the guts to realize we need more than just a new head coach, we need better coordinators.<o:p></o:p>
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Just my prediction anyway.<o:p></o:p>

[gil]

We should bring back public lynchings and settle it ourselves

That's what I thought they were doing when they were throwing the ropes up over the goalposts yesterday

[OpIv37]

Ralph should of been waiting for him in the tunnel after that "game" yesterday with his pink slip in hand.

I heard he wanted to but the tunnel isn't handicapped accessible.

[gil]

Seriously, what's to meet about? They didn't have the body of evidence necessary to make a decision either way?

You know they'll drag this out forever - sheer incompetence

[RockStar36]

Ralph wasn't at the game yesterday. I was hoping he would've been waiting outside the locker room with Dick's stuff already boxed up for him and pink slips for Prestion, Royal, and a few others.

[OpIv37]

Seriously, what's to meet about? They didn't have the body of evidence necessary to make a decision either way?

You know they'll drag this out forever - sheer incompetence

by the standards set by other teams, they already dragged it out forever. The Jets and Browns are already looking for their coach (presumably Detroit too), meanwhile we can't even decide if we're in the market or not.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

Ralph Inner Circle Meetings should play out like this;

Ralph points at Brandon and says "Fired", points of Guy and says "Fired", points at Modrak and says "Beg for Mercy", and points at Overdorff and says "You stay".

Seems pretty simple to me! Then he agrees with himself to fire DJ and the entire staff.

Best Bills analysis of the entire year!

[billsfanone]

I'm hoping for a meeting like the Capone scene in the untouchables. Ralph will take out a baseball bat and club someone to death.

[OpIv37]

I'm hoping for a meeting like the Capone scene in the untouchables. Ralph will take out a baseball bat and club someone to death.

It will probably look more like the Simpsons' spoof of that scene, where Mr. Burns tried to replicate it, but was too old and decrepit to actually hurt the guy.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

I'm hoping for a meeting like the Capone scene in the untouchables. Ralph will take out a baseball bat and club someone to death.

unfortunately, Ralph can't lift a baseball bat

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

lol OP beat me to it

[Owen DeBoard]

I'm hoping for a meeting like the Capone scene in the untouchables. Ralph will take out a baseball bat and club someone to death.:chair:

[MikeInRoch]

Thinking that it would be "late" if they fired him tonight instead of this morning is moronic.

[Dujek]

Just get it over with already. Either fire Dick or pass round the cyanide capsules.

[X-Era]

It is probably going like this:

Russ says, "Ralph, what do you want to do with Jauron, Ralph, Ralph.... John (Guy) will you go wake up Ralph?"

John shakes him, and as Ralphs arm falls off from the shaking, John says, "What the **** is that smell? Who **** their pants"

Ralph wakes up and says, "Someone needs to change my diaper"

[yordad]

lol OP beat me to itOp beat Jauron with a bat? Sweet!

[yordad]

It is probably going like this:

Russ says, "Ralph, what do you want to do with Jauron, Ralph, Ralph.... John (Guy) will you go wake up Ralph?"

John shakes him, and as Ralphs arm falls off from the shaking, John says, "What the **** is that smell? Who **** their pants"

Ralph wakes up and says, "Someone needs to change my diaper"Everyone in the room thinks, "Phew, he looked dead, and he crapped. Good thing he woke up, else we'd all be unemplyed."

[yordad]

Maybe he did die, and they are pulling a "Weekend At Bernie's".

[BillsWin]

Ralph- "Do you like Dick?"
Russ-" I like Dick, but have had too much."
Tom- "Yes, yes too much Dick"

Ralph- "i hate Dick."

Russ- "Bill Cowher? Brian Billick?"

Ralph-"Too much money."

Tom- "Youre gunna die soon. Do you not want to win?"

Ralph- "....."

[muestafa1]

Maybe he did die, and they are pulling a "Weekend At Bernie's".

Would anyone really know the difference? I'm thinking you might be on to something.... Maybe he died a long time ago (would explain a lot of his press conferences) There was that Ventriloquism for Dummies book on Russ Brandon's desk...

[patmoran2006]

In other words, those clamoring for Jauron’s dismissal should be prepared to have April as the next head coach, cause I’m almost willing to bet money that’s how it would go down.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[RockStar36]

That is about as unacceptable as Jauron staying...IMO!!!!

[patmoran2006]

I agree.
But i'm standing by it and predicting that's going to be the outcome.

change coaches, but most things stay the same.. Call it reshuffling the deck I guess.

[RockStar36]

Call it "me spending my money on something else next year" as well.

[SabreEleven]

Why is the meeting happening now? The season was over 3 weeks ago....

[DrGraves]

a special teams coach?

[DrGraves]

WHY HASNT HE BEEN FIRED YET???? HE should have been fired months ago.

[trapezeus]

Ralph should of been waiting for him in the tunnel after that "game" yesterday with his pink slip in hand.

the wind would have taken it, darcy reiger would end up and promise to fax it to one Bills Drive. Then it'll hang in limbo until there is no replacement for Jauron and we'll get jauron against the two hardest divisions next year (as well as our own).

If i was conducting the meeting, Dr. Evil-style, i would say, "I want a coach who can handle the stress of getting the FG unit out in time. And I want a kicker who can kick freaking laser beams all the time. I want a coach who can get his team to score more than 3 points when at home. Our last 3 "home" games, Dickie got us 3 points, 3 points, no points."

I would then dump modrak and guy into the fire pit.

[PECKERWOOD]

Well Ralph had better make a decision soon because alot of good coaches will be off the market if he doesn't **** or get off the pot.

[billsfanone]

I was away from the board for about an hour. Is he fired yet?

[homeslice5484]

no

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's been 8 minutes since this thread started.

What about now?

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

No. Its not march yet.

[billsfanone]

HURRY UP OLD MAN!

[madness]

I was away from the board for about an hour. Is he fired yet?

I'll get to that as soon as I get the water to wine thing down. All I keep coming up with is sour apple juice which gives me that sick feeling of demise as I'm watching a Bills game this year. Damn you, Dick!

[patmoran2006]

Ralph wants to wait until after the playoffs. LOL

[Mr. Miyagi]

Now?

[billsfanone]

:tap:

[madness]

WGR550 apparently reported that Brandon did meet with Jauron today. There was a no comment on what happened. This was off of BB.com's message board. (http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?t=110306)

:pray:

[billsfanone]

I WANT HIM GONE BY EOD TODAY!

[patmoran2006]

Per WGR, Wilson hasn't met with ANYONE yet, and has no plans to until later in the week.

So I think Allen Wilson of the Bflo News was mistaken this morning. May be some meetings going on, but nothing involving Ralph Wilson.

[DynaPaul]

If they're gonna can him they should do it by the end of next week.

[billsburgh]

what a friggin joke.

[billsfanone]

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING!

[Mr. Miyagi]

You expect a 90 year old man to be prompt?

[Mr. Pink]

:rofl:

Him and Rod Marinelli are at Denny's in East Lansing enjoying some nice surf and turf and deciding how many gift certificates Rod will need to coach here next year.

If it's less than Dick...he's ours!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Miyagi]

WGR550 apparently reported that Brandon did meet with Jauron today. There was a no comment on what happened. This was off of BB.com's message board. (http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?t=110306)

:pray:
BRANDON: "So Dick, how was your Christmas?"

JAURON: "It's fine, thanks. Kinda bummed out we lost to the Pats though."

BRANDON: "Nah don't worry about it. It wasn't meant to be."

JAURON: "Sooooooo......should we be talking about my job or what?"

BRANDON: "Old Man Wilson isn't up from his nap yet and I'm not allowed to make any real decisions. Just wanted to chat with you so that we can say we 'had a meeting today.' That's all I got. Happy New Year Coach!"

[mchurchfie]

By the time Ralphie gets his Depends all packed up along with extra sweaters he has forgotten what his original destination was even supposed to be. Give him a break.

[X-Era]

Per WGR, Wilson hasn't met with ANYONE yet, and has no plans to until later in the week.

So I think Allen Wilson of the Bflo News was mistaken this morning. May be some meetings going on, but nothing involving Ralph Wilson.

Im listening to it and didnt hear that at all?

[patmoran2006]

Keep listening, during the 20 minute sports breaks.

[X-Era]

Keep listening, during the 20 minute sports breaks.

Just heard them again, they said Ralph would make a decision soon, thats it.

[Nighthawk]

All meetings will be in Detroit...per Chris Brown. He responded directly to my post with this information.

[X-Era]

All meetings will be in Detroit...per Chris Brown. He responded directly to my post with this information.
Link?

Got it...

http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?t=110312

[Night Train]

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Ralph must be a fan.

Everyone else is making immediate moves and Wilson continues to waste away time on a critical decision.

[gil]

Probably out scouting locations for a new stadium in the Del Boca Vista Phase II Retirement Community

[Luisito23]

You can't win!!!

[ILOVEMIBILLS]

The plan was to originally have Ralph stay in Buffalo after the game to conduct all the meetings, but when his plane was unable to take-off for Buffalo on Sunday (Bob Kraft also missed the game because of the wind), the plans changed.

I'd hate to see what some of you would have been like during the days of the Gladiators. The thirst for blood is astonishing.

If something is going to happen, then it doesn't matter if it happens today or Wednesday. A coach wouldn't be hired in that timespan anyway. If it happens (which I think it will), it will be a process that takes some time.

[THATHURMANATOR]

The guy is an ASS.

DIE ALREADY

[Night Train]

Think about that.

They take their time to get it right..and they hire Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey & Dick Jauron.

That's like spending a week on Netflex & finally ordering Die Hard Dracula.

[Nighthawk]

I don't know, but with the meeting going on in Detroit without Jauron...maybe he is gone. Jauron was in Buffalo today, but wouldn't speak with reporters. Interesting...

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/535412.html

[X-Era]

I don't know, but with the meeting going on in Detroit without Jauron...maybe he is gone. Jauron was in Buffalo today, but wouldn't speak with reporters. Interesting...

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/535412.html

You may not disagree, but if we fire Jauron... we are NOT better yet.

Its a two part scenario. Its A plus B.

Just firing him doesnt make us better, it only means theres a change.

Its CRITICAL that we get the right guy... Critical.

Your watching NYJ show that they are serious about this thing, I dont think we are that serious about winning here.

[camelcowboy]

The guy is an ASS.

DIE ALREADY
His ass staying alive keeps the team in buffalo. I'm rooting for him to live forever

[Night Train]

After blowing the Jauron extension, why do I see Brandon acting like Smithers and rubbing Ralphs feet, while he talks to the other attendees ?

[X-Era]

His ass staying alive keeps the team in buffalo. I'm rooting for him to live forever

Then your rooting for mediocrity forever

[patmoran2006]

Not endorsing him now could be good news for us.


Question.. WTF is the team treasurer doing at a meeting regarding the head coach?

[patmoran2006]

BTW, **** like this usually leaks out by the night before, so Tue night we should know something at the latest.

[patmoran2006]

In reality this is probably the last coach he's going to ever hire, so make it a ****ing good one you old *****.

[X-Era]

Not endorsing him now could be good news for us.


Question.. WTF is the team treasurer doing at a meeting regarding the head coach?

endorsing who?

The Bills treasurer will be the guy who tells them how much they can spend on a new HC... thats why it makes sense to me.

[patmoran2006]

a buck three eighty.

[Night Train]

Not endorsing him now could be good news for us.


Question.. WTF is the team treasurer doing at a meeting regarding the head coach?

Littman has been Ralphs right hand man in Detroit for many years.

[Nighthawk]

Not endorsing him now could be good news for us.


Question.. WTF is the team treasurer doing at a meeting regarding the head coach?

Maybe he is there to work out a buyout for Jauron. Also, maybe they are figuring out how hard it will be to sell Jauron to the fans if he stays.

[patmoran2006]

As it turns out, wilson isnt here. but either is brandon (anymore)

Brandon flew out there with Modrak and whomever else (Detroit) today. Brandon was at OBD this morning.

The fact that Modrak and Brandon are with WIlson tells there is probably a 0% chance either of them are going anywhere.

I dont think, unless its a great coach they pick, that merely getting a new HC is the answer.. Im a huge believer that the FO is equally responisible for this team sucking.

[Ingtar33]

As it turns out, wilson isnt here. but either is brandon (anymore)

Brandon flew out there with Modrak and whomever else (Detroit) today. Brandon was at OBD this morning.

The fact that Modrak and Brandon are with WIlson tells there is probably a 0% chance either of them are going anywhere.

I dont think, unless its a great coach they pick, that merely getting a new HC is the answer.. Im a huge believer that the FO is equally responisible for this team sucking.


That Modrak and Brandon are both in Detroit tells me the coaching staff is getting canned.

they wouldn't bother to go if no changes were being made

[patmoran2006]

There is no way to sell Jauron to the fans. Or the media for that matter.

[baalworship]

I would be open to keeping Modrak and Brandon if we get rid of Jauron and Guy.

[patmoran2006]

Well hopefully by Wednesday we'll find out if we're looking for a head coach, and then most will likely pray that its NOT Bobby April.

[jimbohastle51]

if this is the case then you can almost guarantee that jauron is back next year and the only changes is coordinators.

[jimbohastle51]

only one reason hes not in a hurry, and thats because nothing too major is happening, you also have to remember levy gave wilson the big thumbs up on jauron so he will get every opportunity and every benefit of the doubt if any to come back next year.

[Nighthawk]

There is no way to sell Jauron to the fans. Or the media for that matter.

If they bring him back, it will be organizational suicide.

[patmoran2006]

I would be open to keeping Modrak and Brandon if we get rid of Jauron and Guy.I want Modrak gone, unless they know something we don't and it really wasn't his decision to draft Whitner, McCargo and Posluzny (not that Poz is bad, but far from the impact MLB we expected)

[jimbohastle51]

if we fire jauron we are not going to end up with a high profile coach. it is going to be an unproven coach. no way he pays a buy out then hires a 1-2 million a year coach. more chance jauron stays

[X-Era]

if we fire jauron we are not going to end up with a high profile coach. it is going to be an unproven coach. no way he pays a buy out then hires a 1-2 million a year coach. more chance jauron stays

read my response on suite leases being up.. Jerry Sullivans comment.

[X-Era]

If they bring him back, it will be organizational suicide.

They may just try.

But Jerry Sullivan made a good point that if they are taking to Wed. It cant be good for Dick.

[OpIv37]

****ing WEDNESDAY!!!!???!! Are you ****ing kidding me? This organization is a joke. The LIONS made their move today. Why does it take the Bills 48 hours longer than it takes a pathetic franchise like the Lions? Dammit.

[X-Era]

****ing WEDNESDAY!!!!???!! Are you ****ing kidding me? This organization is a joke. The LIONS made their move today. Why does it take the Bills 48 hours longer than it takes a pathetic franchise like the Lions? Dammit.

Its another clear, and concise depiction of what type of organization we really have.

[ILOVEMIBILLS]

I want Modrak gone, unless they know something we don't and it really wasn't his decision to draft Whitner, McCargo and Posluzny (not that Poz is bad, but far from the impact MLB we expected)

For Poz - It is his second (arguably first) year in the league, and its not like he has had a great pass rush from our d-line to help him out.

But I agree about Whitner and McCargo.

[Nighthawk]

Its another clear, and concise depiction of what type of organization we really have.

Mediocrity reigns at One Bills Drive. However, if they actually make the right decision and fire Jauron, I'll get over it a little quicker.

[baalworship]

I want Modrak gone, unless they know something we don't and it really wasn't his decision to draft Whitner, McCargo and Posluzny (not that Poz is bad, but far from the impact MLB we expected)


Could we do better than Modrak? Yes. But who? I take a look at the Patriots, Jets, and Dolphins drafts and they have not been significantly better than ours recently. Modrak to me is a good scout who doesn't push for the ultimate choice on draft day. When Donahoe was here he wasn't pulling the trigger and the same thing happened when Levy was here. He is hard to evaluate because he tends to blend in with the guy at the top.

Now if we can get an obvious upgrade then go for it but I believe the coaching and player personnel guy are obvious problems that can be upgraded easily. I wouldn't mind leaving Modrak in and letting him run a draft with the new head coach. Modrak had a reputation as one of the best scouts in the business before he came here and the Bills are good at making good people look worse than they are.


Changes I would make before Modrak:

John Guy-Player personnel-has found nothing of value other than the trade for Stroud.

Dick Jauron-Nothing needs to be said here.

QB-Keep Edwards but draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round to develop in case he doesn't get better/play injury free, etc.

[Ed]

Pat, I think you're dead on and I would also add that promoting April would make the most sense financially. April is probably the cheapest option since he has no chance of getting a head coaching job anywhere else. They could also force him to keep Turk and Fewell so that they don't have to pay any additional coaches that get let go. Having to buy out Jauron is going to be expensive, so I would expect them to take the most cost saving route. Any new coach is going to want more money, their own staff, and their own players.

So April is the cheapest and easiest option, plus he's popular among the players and fans. It's an easy sell.

[Thurmal]

****ing WEDNESDAY!!!!???!! Are you ****ing kidding me? This organization is a joke. The LIONS made their move today. Why does it take the Bills 48 hours longer than it takes a pathetic franchise like the Lions? Dammit.
They could already be looking at new coaches just like everyone else. Right? Right? Yeah, probably not.

[BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan]

read my response on suite leases being up.. Jerry Sullivans comment.

they're moving the press box this off-season into the old admin offices the white building and making the press box into luxury boxes. That was also in the rewritten contract that Erie County made with the Bills. In 2007 the Bills got a new HD Scoreboard and ribbon board.

[Nighthawk]

they're moving the press box this off-season into the old admin offices the white building and making the press box into luxury boxes. That was also in the rewritten contract that Erie County made with the Bills. In 2007 the Bills got a new HD Scoreboard and ribbon board.

WHAT ARE YOU F'N TALKING ABOUT!?!?!

[OpIv37]

They could already be looking at new coaches just like everyone else. Right? Right? Yeah, probably not.

Fans of most teams have delusions of grandeur. Bills fans occasionally have brief delusions of competence before reality sets back in.

[Borosai]

There's still hope for the new year!

[shelby]

Don't get your hopes up.

i'm just sayin'.

[gil]

I still don't understand why this decision would take two more days to contemplate - from an organizational standpoint, what's the holdup - here's a quick employee evaluation:

economics - the continued presence of this employee will lose you money.

performance- the employee has not performed up to expectations and by many standards set by his peers, failed miserably.

attitude - I guess the one thing he has going for him - he's well liked by his subordinates and co-workers.

[Nighthawk]

Don't get your hopes up.

i'm just sayin'.

I am!

Dickey has a better chance of getting fired then the Bills had of making the playoffs after starting 5-1 with Dickey as HC!

[Luisito23]

I want nothing at all to do with them, but if I was forced to choose I would seriously take every single coach that was fired so far over Mr. Jauron.

[Jeff1220]

I like April, but not as the HC. Unfortunately though, you guys are probably right.

[yordad]

oH CRAP, THIS MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE.

[paladin warrior]

:wtf: WHy wait until Wednesday!!!! Buffalo Bills record 0-6 in Division. :chair: I will Hit Ralph head 100 time.:chair: :chair: :chair: :chair:

[HHURRICANE]

I guarantee that Brandon is the one getting his ass kicked for extending him too early.

They are probably trying to figure out how to buy him out and how much it will cost.

There is no way they can keep him after the first half debacle.

[yordad]

I still don't understand why this decision would take two more days to contemplate - from an organizational standpoint, what's the holdup - here's a quick employee evaluation:

economics - the continued presence of this employee will lose you money.

performance- the employee has not performed up to expectations and by many standards set by his peers, failed miserably.

attitude - I guess the one thing he has going for him - he's well liked by his subordinates and co-workers.Coaches good- no
game plans well- no
adjusts well in game- no
motivates- no
makes quick decisions- no
makes accurate decisions-no
picks good subordinates- no
makes good use of talent- no
assesses talent well- no
has good relationship w fans- no
conveys thought well- hell no
wins-no

[X-Era]

I guarantee that Brandon is the one getting his ass kicked for extending him too early.

They are probably trying to figure out how to buy him out and how much it will cost.

There is no way they can keep him after the first half debacle.

Im no contract guy, but you can fire someone who has a contract without "buy outs".

[hydro]

they're moving the press box this off-season into the old admin offices the white building and making the press box into luxury boxes. That was also in the rewritten contract that Erie County made with the Bills. In 2007 the Bills got a new HD Scoreboard and ribbon board.

Thank you Buffalo Bill. You are an asset to this board. In a meaningless info kind of way.

[patmoran2006]

For the record. Im NOT for this move and hope it doesnt happen, I just predict that it will.

I think this organization needs new sets of eyes, both on the coaching staff and in the front office.

Granted, Jauron has been a horrible game-day coach, and I cant fathom April being any worse. but how much of an upgrade do you really think this would be? WHat I do like about APril is that he looks he has a pulse on Sundays, which is more than I can say about Jauron.

But regardless, I think they need some FO help just as much, and I'll lay down money that doesnt happen. As much as I cant stand Jauron, he didn't draft Whitner over Ngata.. He didnt move up for McCargo instead of Mangold. He didnt move to get Hardy or Ellis (though it would be unfair to call either a bust).

He also didnt sign free agents to Melvin Folwer, Derrick Dockery to overpaid deals, nor re-up ridiculously for Chris Kelsay.

We need a better GM as much, if not more than a new HC.

But shaking up the entire organization is something I am positive Wilson is unwilling to do.

That's why I see this move coming in the next few weeks.

[patmoran2006]

I know people crave Schotty, Billick and a few of the "hot" prospects (Spags, McDaniels, etc).

But if Jauron is fired on Wednesday I'd be shocked if APril isnt named HC as soon as they interview one minority candidate (maybe even Fewel)

[Ebenezer]

I know people crave Schotty, Billick and a few of the "hot" prospects (Spags, McDaniels, etc).

But if Jauron is fired on Wednesday I'd be shocked if APril isnt named HC as soon as they interview one minority candidate (maybe even Fewel)
I see that as the scenario because RW knows the fans love April.

[jamze132]

Maybe the FO is gauging possible intererst from HC candidates, such as Cowher, Schottenheimer, Billick, etc. before they make the decision to can Jauron. I doubt they fire him if none of the the above choices want to coach in Buffalo.

You can fire Dickface all day but you have to have a plan on who you are going to upgrade the position with. April isn't an upgrade at the HC position.

I'm not sure what type of coordinator April would make but he shouldn't be made HC just yet. I know he has the title of AHC though but I would like to see what type of coordinator he would be. Could he be worse than what he currently have? Doubtful...

[mysticsoto]

For the record. Im NOT for this move and hope it doesnt happen, I just predict that it will.

I think this organization needs new sets of eyes, both on the coaching staff and in the front office.

Granted, Jauron has been a horrible game-day coach, and I cant fathom April being any worse. but how much of an upgrade do you really think this would be? WHat I do like about APril is that he looks he has a pulse on Sundays, which is more than I can say about Jauron.

But regardless, I think they need some FO help just as much, and I'll lay down money that doesnt happen. As much as I cant stand Jauron, he didn't draft Whitner over Ngata.. He didnt move up for McCargo instead of Mangold. He didnt move to get Hardy or Ellis (though it would be unfair to call either a bust).

He also didnt sign free agents to Melvin Folwer, Derrick Dockery to overpaid deals, nor re-up ridiculously for Chris Kelsay.

We need a better GM as much, if not more than a new HC.

But shaking up the entire organization is something I am positive Wilson is unwilling to do.

That's why I see this move coming in the next few weeks.
I agree with this.

There's one sure-fired way to improve the organization...hire Parcells as both GM and coach to the team. We get instant popularity and free advertising from virtually every major network and analyst. Ticket sales will go up even more than they were this year!!! Fans will be ecstatic once they get up from the floor where they fainted. Parcells would then use FA and the draft to turn this team around!

It ain't gonna happen, b'cse it would require Ralph to admit that he has no idea what goes into making a good team. However, at his age, he should be thinking I need to go out w/a bang and this would surely do it!!!

[HHURRICANE]

I promise you that the Bills will keep Jauron and the entire staff.

The cost and effort in bringing in another slew of people is not going to happen.

I believe the Bills can survive til FA starts, bring in Birk and some other surprise, and than have a good draft and people will live with the decision.

They are not going to eat 6 million dollars when this comes right off the net income line.

If the contract is signed, Ralph will not eat Jauron's contract. I 100% guarantee it!!

[djjimkelly]

6 million to the buffalo bills should be like 100$ to me.

and id burn a few hundreds to get rid of jauron

[Nighthawk]

I promise you that the Bills will keep Jauron and the entire staff.

The cost and effort in bringing in another slew of people is not going to happen.

I believe the Bills can survive til FA starts, bring in Birk and some other surprise, and than have a good draft and people will live with the decision.

They are not going to eat 6 million dollars when this comes right off the net income line.

If the contract is signed, Ralph will not eat Jauron's contract. I 100% guarantee it!!

Can you possibly flip-flop anymore? How many times are you going to start threads stating "he's fired", "he's staying", "he's fired"...I mean, geesh....get a grip!

[madness]

Forked from: I have info regarding Jauron's situation (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showpost.php?postid=2781892)


Thanks Sal. If anything, this confirms what many of us already know. The organization is run by lobotomized monkeys.



I had thought about the whole Dick blocking scenario a few times this year. Given his history @ Chicago, I wouldn't doubt Dick would deflect blame off of his rookie play caller. I thought it was funny that CB made Trent's text message public right after Dick came out and said he was responsible for calling that PA pass at the end of the Jets game. What if Dick really didn't call it and was protecting Turk's boneheaded decision to the public? Turk has already been taking heat for some questionable calls during the year and he has been responsible for burning up timeouts due to not calling plays quick enough which Trent confirmed a couple times in post-game interviews. Add in the fact that Jauron hardly ever micro-manages since he trusts his coaches to do their job and the finger seems to point toward Turk even more.

I agree with the scenario that Dick's job is tied to Turk's fate. It's been rumored Dick turned down Detroit's HC offer simply because he didn't want to be upper-management's hit man at the end of the season. If Dick won't fire Turk, he may be following him out the door.

Worst case scenario(so you better prepare for it):

Dick is retained after firing Turk and Wilson consults the Press Your Luck board (C'mon big bucks... no whammies!) to shake up the front office. Let's just say we aquire the big FA DE we needed, picked up one early in the draft and solved our OLB dilemma with either Crowell coming back or picking one up in the draft or FA. It's no secret that this offense once again under-achieved so who can right the ship? When two years in a row your 4th in the league in keeping points off the board you should be winning ball games with your offense. What proven guys are available or who would you take out of the college level?

[homeslice5484]

if all we do is replace the OC and sign some players...ill have a wait and see approach till mid season next year before I spend another dime.

[DraftBoy]

Out of the college level Id take;
Turner Gill
Norm Chow
Rick Neuhisal
Derek Dooley
Lane Kiffin

[madness]

if all we do is replace the OC and sign some players...ill have a wait and see approach till mid season next year before I spend another dime.

I think it will be more than just one coach. I expect a fewposition coaches could be shown the door as well. I believe Coiner (TE), Kollar (DL), Kuglar (OL) are all possible hits and hopefully Allaire is fired too.

[madness]

Out of the college level Id take;
Turner Gill
Norm Chow
Rick Neuhisal
Derek Dooley
Lane Kiffin

What was the deal with Chow in Tenn? I thought he had shown some promise in the past.

[madness]

Martz is now available.

[DraftBoy]

What was the deal with Chow in Tenn? I thought he had shown some promise in the past.

Think it was a difference of opinion to be honest.

[Forward_Lateral]

Martz is now available.

No freaking way. Sure, he was great in St.Louis, which was absolute perfect conditions. Indoors, arguably the best all purpose RB in history, a hall of fame WR at the peak of his career (Bruce), a future hall of fame WR (Holt), the most under rated slot reciever of all time (Proehl), and one of the best QBs and O-lines in the league at that time.

His pass happy crap can stay in the NFC, indoors where it belongs.

[patmoran2006]

Take it for what its worth, and hopefully its NOTHING.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
But I emailed SEVERAL media people I still keep in contact with, including Tim Graham, Leo Roth, Sal M. and at least 9 others.<o:p></o:p>
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And ALL but one of them emailed something back (typically just 1-2 lines) and said they expect Jauron to get another year and at most we’ll make a few small changes with assistants. And it comes back to us already having him signed to extension in October.<o:p></o:p>
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Please don’t let this be accurate, I don’t see how they don’t axe Jauron.<o:p></o:p>

[DraftBoy]

I dont see how he gets fired to be perfectly honest.

[dasaybz]

Hahahha, how the hell would they know what the Bills are going to do?

I'm not overly optimistic, but this is totally laughable.

[OpIv37]

ok let's revisit this for a second.

The stories about the contract came out when the Bills were 5-1. The Bills were 7-9 the two previous seasons, so at the time, Jauron had a 19-19 record in Buffalo and an overall losing record as a head coach. And we had barely beaten some crappy teams.

WHY THE HELL WOULD RALPH GIVE THE GUY A NEW CONTRACT BEFORE HE'S PROVEN ANYTHING? It's completely illogical.

[Night Train]

I still think they ask Jauron to make a bunch of changes to the staff they know he would never accept and he quits, saving Ralph from paying him.

[justasportsfan]

When two years in a row your 4th in the league in keeping points off the board you should be winning ball games with your offense. What proven guys are available or who would you take out of the college level?


In the offseason Dick said we have to score more in the redzone. He hires Turk and he's back to the same thing again after sunday. :rolleyes:

Whatever happens, DO NOT make Dick chose his OC.

[RockStar36]

That's fine with me. It will help me save money.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I dont see how he gets fired to be perfectly honest.
When you go 2-8 in the last 10 games, that's how you get fired.

[patmoran2006]

Hahahha, how the hell would they know what the Bills are going to do?

I'm not overly optimistic, but this is totally laughable.
They dont.

Just interesting, most fans think he's gone, most media thinks he stays.
Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

But if he stays, im REALLY looking forward to hearing comments from:
1_ Billszone members
2- jerry sullivan.

Both should be priceless.

[Mr. Pink]

Are we gonna make any moves in the front office?

Like fire Modrak, Guy and Brandon?

Overdorf can stay.

[RockStar36]

Are we gonna make any moves in the front office?

Like fire Modrak, Guy and Brandon?

Overdorf can stay.

Modrak isn't going to be fired. He was just added to the "inner circle".

[gil]

The mere fact that it's taking this long makes me think they are looking at the most palatable ways to re-arrange the deck chairs on the titanic and sell it to us - firing/hiring assistants, etc.

[JJamezz]

I dont see how he gets fired to be perfectly honest.

Seriously??

I'm not overly optimistic that his replacement will end up being an upgrade, but there is almost a zero percent chance in my mind that Jauron is retained.

[M]

Are these media people in the meetings in Detroit? No? Then I'm going to wait. And hope and pray that Jauron gets the ax.

[Mr. Pink]

Modrak isn't going to be fired. He was just added to the "inner circle".

Can we put the "inner circle" on a raft and push them out over Niagara Falls?

[madness]

In the offseason Dick said we have to score more in the redzone. He hires Turk and he's back to the same thing again after sunday. :rolleyes:

Whatever happens, DO NOT make Dick chose his OC.

I agree. Turk talked a good game but that was about it. It's time to go get a proven winner and leave it out of Jauron's hands.

[madness]

Think it was a difference of opinion to be honest.

I read some old articles and that's what I gathered.

[gil]

Seriously??

I'm not overly optimistic that his replacement will end up being an upgrade, but there is almost a zero percent chance in my mind that Jauron is retained.

I think it's like 80% that he's retained - otherwise why take this much time to deliberate?

If what we all saw on the field this year wasn't enough evidence for them to can him after the last game, what more could they possibly be discussing?

To me that means they are discussing what changes they can make outside of Jauron that will keep the fans from yieldlng pitchforks, vats of burning oil and catapaults filled with the jars of tears we've shed and heading for OBD

.

[justasportsfan]

I agree. Turk talked a good game but that was about it. It's time to go get a proven winner and leave it out of Jauron's hands.
IN fairness to Turk , he brought back basic football fundamentals. Problem is, his playcalling and schemes were so basic that everyone saw what was coming


It didn't take a genius to defend his passing schemes 5-20 yards out to screw us over. Dicks defensive philosophy was give them the pass underneath the lb'ers . Too bad other teams did the same thing to us and that was the end of our O that forced Turk started copying plays from other teams "because it worked for them"

[Ed]

ok let's revisit this for a second.

The stories about the contract came out when the Bills were 5-1. The Bills were 7-9 the two previous seasons, so at the time, Jauron had a 19-19 record in Buffalo and an overall losing record as a head coach. And we had barely beaten some crappy teams.

WHY THE HELL WOULD RALPH GIVE THE GUY A NEW CONTRACT BEFORE HE'S PROVEN ANYTHING? It's completely illogical.
I got to talk with Chris Brown at a Bills party before the Denver game and he said that what a lot of people don't know is that Jauron was actually offered the extension during training camp.

I'm assuming that everyone really liked the direction the team was going and truly believe we were going to take that next step like a lot of us did also. Wilson has also said in the past that he thought Jauron was the second best coach the Bills have ever had...

[Ebenezer]

why is this not in the speculation thread? - merged again.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

this is a soap opera

[M]

this is a bad soap opera

Fixed it for you.

[DraftBoy]

Seriously??

I'm not overly optimistic that his replacement will end up being an upgrade, but there is almost a zero percent chance in my mind that Jauron is retained.


Seriously just signed an extension team hit by injuries, lost their "franchise" QB for the majority of the season through being actually out of games an the other ones losing his ******* mind. They'll come in make a big splash in FA (Dansby, imo) and go into next season with DJ and Co.

[camelcowboy]

Then your rooting for mediocrity forever
Nope I'm enjoying the bills now because they won't be around much longer. If u don't like that I really don't care.l