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patmoran2006
12-30-2008, 06:27 PM
I could very well be wrong, and Im sure it will be pointed out.. But off the top of my head, you may be the first coach in NFL history (not including expansion teams) to take a head coaching job, produce not one, not two but three straight LOSING seasons.. Have about 95% of the media tear you a new ass and 99.9% of the fans call for your head. Make mistake after mistake on game day that my 10 year old DAUGHTER can notice. Oh, and have WON winning season out of eight in your career.

and get rewarded with a contract extension!!!!!!

You are the man Jauron.
Honestly, Ralph didnt even have to "fire" him.. All he had to do was NOT RENEW his ****ing contract!

Can anyone else think of a coach, especially a "veteran" coach who has ever came to a team had THREE straight losing seasons, and NOT get replaced? Did we set history again? WE already became the first team in NFL history to start 4-0 and finish dead last in our division.

Thurmal
12-30-2008, 06:29 PM
The only thing I can think of that is comparable to this is Matt Millen keeping his job after last year.

We all know how that turned out.

patmoran2006
12-30-2008, 06:30 PM
The only thing I can think of that is comparable to this is Matt Millen keeping his job after last year.

We all know how that turned out.
He's a GM.

BTW, I hope Jauron gets more involved in the personnel aspect, so we can watch him sign and/or go after EVERY BEAR AND LION on the market!

djjimkelly
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
what a sad day this is. at least i can now officially party in septemeber october november and december next year becuz i wont give a **** about watching bills games at 1

Thurmal
12-30-2008, 06:37 PM
He's a GM.

BTW, I hope Jauron gets more involved in the personnel aspect, so we can watch him sign and/or go after EVERY BEAR AND LION on the market!

I know he is a GM. He is the only guy in the NFL I can thinks of who sucked as much and still kept his job, though.

Finding a coach who has been as incompetent as Jauron and GOT AN EXTENSION is likely impossible.

patmoran2006
12-30-2008, 06:38 PM
has to be someone..

Ingtar33
12-30-2008, 06:38 PM
The only thing I can think of that is comparable to this is Matt Millen keeping his job after last year.

We all know how that turned out.

yeah... classic.

actually Millen got a 5 year and something crazy like a 50 mil contract extension... in 2005 i think.

Akhippo
12-30-2008, 06:41 PM
Not only three straight losing seasons; but add to that a collosal meltdown in his third year. Being shut out in your own division. Knowing the only road that will get you to the playoffs is through NE, and having a HORRIBLE record against them.

All signs point to an extension to me.

Lexwhat
12-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Pat:

To answer your question seriously, I give you the name Jeff Fisher.

I'm not sure what his contract details were though, and I don't even remember anything about those Oilers/Titans teams.

Maybe someone else knows?

Mr. Pink
12-30-2008, 06:59 PM
Pat:

To answer your question seriously, I give you the name Jeff Fisher.

I'm not sure what his contract details were though, and I don't even remember anything about those Oilers/Titans teams.

Maybe someone else knows?

Fisher has never had back to back to back losing seasons in his 15 season in Houston/Tennessee.

He had 5 straight seasons of not making it over .500 to start his career there though.

1-5, 7-9, 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 then he took the Titans to the SB.

patmoran2006
12-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Pat:

To answer your question seriously, I give you the name Jeff Fisher.

I'm not sure what his contract details were though, and I don't even remember anything about those Oilers/Titans teams.

Maybe someone else knows?
yeah that's a good observation, but it was at the start of his career and Im' almost sure that was his first head coaching gig.

patmoran2006
12-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Fisher has never had back to back to back losing seasons in his 15 season in Houston/Tennessee.

He had 5 straight seasons of not making it over .500 to start his career there though.

1-5, 7-9, 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 then he took the Titans to the SB.
C'mon, I thought for sure you'd be the one to come up with at least a few names.

Is this "rehire" really THAT unprecedented?

Lexwhat
12-30-2008, 07:04 PM
Fisher has never had back to back to back losing seasons in his 15 season in Houston/Tennessee.

He had 5 straight seasons of not making it over .500 to start his career there though.

1-5, 7-9, 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 then he took the Titans to the SB.

My fault. Well 7-9, 8-8, 8-8 is not much different than 7-9, 7-9, 7-9...

Just to be clear though, I'm not comparing Jauron and Fisher. Fisher was a 1st time coach, and this is Jauron's 3rd head-coaching job already (including the Lions).

And I hate the **** that Ralph is pulling right now. If we hired a new (and real) GM, I wouldn't mind Jauron coming back that much. But it looks like we are doing NOTHING!

Sad.

Lexwhat
12-30-2008, 07:08 PM
yeah that's a good observation, but it was at the start of his career and Im' almost sure that was his first head coaching gig.

Yes you're right, there's not much comparison. As I posted above, this is Jauron's 3rd head-coaching job. He's a proven loser.

Now that I've calmed down though, I might as well wait and see how this off-season goes. If we don't make major moves, we won't make the playoffs next year, so I won't be set up for disappointment.

Mr. Pink
12-30-2008, 07:12 PM
C'mon, I thought for sure you'd be the one to come up with at least a few names.

Is this "rehire" really THAT unprecedented?

Tom Landry is the biggest name I can think of.

First five seasons with the Cowboys they had a losing record.

Don't know contract details of his first deal, but I doubt he'd have a first contract that was longer than 5 years.

They kept him for 29 years.

And I do know that Chuck Noll didn't have a winning season til season 4 with the Steelers.

HHURRICANE
12-30-2008, 07:16 PM
Fisher has never had back to back to back losing seasons in his 15 season in Houston/Tennessee.

He had 5 straight seasons of not making it over .500 to start his career there though.

1-5, 7-9, 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 then he took the Titans to the SB.

I just gave this example in another thread. There is something to be said about continuity. I really don't believe that Jauron is a nightmare coach. Stupid at times but not a nightmare.

Did Cowher struggle early on? Can't rememeber.

Mr. Pink
12-30-2008, 07:21 PM
I just gave this example in another thread. There is something to be said about continuity. I really don't believe that Jauron is a nightmare coach. Stupid at times but not a nightmare.

Did Cowher struggle early on? Can't rememeber.

Nope, he got to step right in and take over for Noll.

The Steelers under Noll were a .500 team at the time and Cowher actually improved them.

Still pisses me off to this day that when Modell fired Marty he didn't hire Cowher instead passing him over for Carson. Then passing over Cowher again to hire Belichick.

Michael82
12-31-2008, 03:38 AM
If only we could convince him to quit like we did to Mike Mularkey. :snicker:

SABURZFAN
12-31-2008, 03:44 AM
Not only three straight losing seasons; but add to that a collosal meltdown in his third year. Being shut out in your own division. Knowing the only road that will get you to the playoffs is through NE, and having a HORRIBLE record against them.

All signs point to an extension to me.


the extension that the Bills fans got was coated with 30 grit sandpaper and no vaseline.

Historian
12-31-2008, 05:26 AM
Maybe Wannestadt.

Ask the resident flounder.

LtFinFan66
12-31-2008, 05:39 AM
Maybe Wannestadt.

Ask the resident flounder.Wanny only had 1 losing season in Miami:idunno:

Historian
12-31-2008, 05:41 AM
So why'd they fire him?

Historian
12-31-2008, 05:41 AM
Other than the 1970's porn star moustache?

LtFinFan66
12-31-2008, 05:49 AM
So why'd they fire him?Because his last year they started out 1-8


His records in Miami:

2000: 11-5, playoffs
2001: 11-5, playoffs
2002: 9-7, home for the holidays
2003: 10-6, home for the holidays
2004: 4-12, see ya Wanny


had to be the stache

zone
12-31-2008, 07:47 AM
Just to be fair Belichick's record was pretty bad.

He went 6-10, 7-9, and 7-9 before having a winning season is Cleavland followed by 2 back to back 5-11 seasons (one with Cleavland one with NE) before consistently having a winning record.

Do I think Dick can do the same thing? Probably not, but I bet no one would have guessed Belichick would have done it either.

billsfanone
12-31-2008, 07:48 AM
The Bills are the biggest joke in sports.

TedMock
12-31-2008, 08:04 AM
Weeb Ewbank

Losing records first 3 seasons in Baltimore 1954-1956

Losing records first 3 seasons in New York 1963-1965


Recent history, as somebody already mentioned, has Belichick with 4 out of 5 losing seasons with the Browns.

I don't post this with any seriousness. Just being a smart-a. It really doesn't happen too often and I'm under no illusion that Jauron becomes the next Bill Belichick or Weeb Ewbank.