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  • T-Long
    Circling the Wagons since 1982.
    • Sep 2003
    • 3848
    #1

    Big Splash

    I truly think the only way fans are going to flock back to the Ralph and to the stores to buy merchandise is if they make a Big Splash in Free Agency. Our biggest need right now is at Center and OLB. Can we all agree on that?

    Centers: Jeff Saturday and Matt Birk (I truly think Birk stays, but I think Saturday comes to Buffalo in a deal similar to Langston Walker last season)

    OLB: Bart Scott (I bet they don't go after him and resign Crowell to an incentive laden deal)

    But, would landing Saturday and a few mid-level free agents do the trick?

    I doubt it.

    But hey...Brandon is a marketing guy who knows that he has got to do something to keep ticket sales up. He may just have something up his sleeve....guess we'll have to wait and see....
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  • SabreEleven
    Registered User
    • Aug 2002
    • 39563
    #2
    Re: Big Splash

    How long have you been a Bills fan?

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    • T-Long
      Circling the Wagons since 1982.
      • Sep 2003
      • 3848
      #3
      Re: Big Splash

      Since I was 7....1989 to be exact

      And yes, I do know why you are asking. They have done some unexpected things in the past that have surprised us...

      (ie: Drew Bledsoe trade on Day 2 of the draft when everyone said it was dead, Lawyer Milloy pickup right before Week 1, nabbing 2 starters on the OL on the first day of free agency, etc...)

      Hey, a man can dream can't he? It's officially the offseason and I'm SICK of being pissed about Jauron! I guess it's a type of therapy...

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      • Cntrygal
        Visually stunning but camera-shy.
        • Jul 2002
        • 44883
        #4
        Re: Big Splash

        A "Big Splash in FA" will not cause me to spend 1K or more to come racing back to RWS for ONE game.

        I want some sort of sign that RW is going to dedicate a fraction of his remaining life force into making the Bills a competitive team. And IMO, all the big name players won't make a difference if the coaching staff isn't going to properly utilize the talent.
        Originally posted by notacon
        The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

        For news, articles and other "stuff"... BillsZone.com
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        • Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
          Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 349
          #5
          Re: Big Splash

          Bart Scott? He is not an UFA I think, I mean he was drafted in 2006 so even if his contract expires he would be a RFA and we would have to pay compensation and that considering the Ravens don't resign him before March which would be dumb.

          I would love to see Matt Birk in Buffalo by the way but I don't know, even if the FO tries to land him here there are other sixteen teams interested I guess.
          I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller!

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          • T-Long
            Circling the Wagons since 1982.
            • Sep 2003
            • 3848
            #6
            Re: Big Splash

            Originally posted by Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
            Bart Scott? He is not an UFA I think, I mean he was drafted in 2006 so even if his contract expires he would be a RFA and we would have to pay compensation and that considering the Ravens don't resign him before March which would be dumb.

            I would love to see Matt Birk in Buffalo by the way but I don't know, even if the FO tries to land him here there are other sixteen teams interested I guess.
            Bart Scott was never drafted. He was an undrafted free agent, so he is an UFA in 2009.

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            • T-Long
              Circling the Wagons since 1982.
              • Sep 2003
              • 3848
              #7
              Re: Big Splash

              Here is a list of the UFA Linebackers in 2009:

              Top Ones
              Ray Lewis
              Eric Barton
              Karlos Dansby
              Mike Peterson
              Jonathan Vilma

              Others
              Jordan Beck, UFA, Denver Broncos
              Monty Beisel, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
              Michael Boley, UFA, Atlanta Falcons
              Angelo Crowell, UFA, Buffalo Bills
              Channing Crowder, UFA, Miami Dolphins
              James Farrior, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
              Tyjuan Hagler, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
              Leroy Hill, UFA, Seattle Sehawks
              Willie McGinest, UFA, Cleveland Browns
              Carlos Polk, UFA, San Diego Chargers
              Sam Williams, UFA, Oakland Raiders

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              • Mr. Pink
                Peterman Sucks!
                • Mar 2006
                • 35303
                #8
                Re: Big Splash

                Even if we had replaced the coach we would have needed a "big splash" as you call it.

                I would feel much better about the prospects of 2009 if we were to go out and get some NFL caliber talent at places of weakness on this team.

                Be it signing Saturday or Birk, signing Scott or Dansby, bringing in Kurt Warner, signing Peppers or Bertrand Berry.

                Bring in any of those guys with a few other upgrades and a strong draft, we might manage to do better than 4-12 w/ that absolutely brutal schedule we have coming up.

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                • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                  The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4525
                  #9
                  Re: Big Splash

                  ralph already said he's not making any changes. get ready for 4-12
                  In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                  • T-Long
                    Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3848
                    #10
                    Re: Big Splash

                    Originally posted by keithtr
                    ralph already said he's not making any changes. get ready for 4-12
                    he said no changes with the coaching staff, not the roster

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                    • The Jokeman
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 9995
                      #11
                      Re: Big Splash

                      Originally posted by T-Long
                      I truly think the only way fans are going to flock back to the Ralph and to the stores to buy merchandise is if they make a Big Splash in Free Agency. Our biggest need right now is at Center and OLB. Can we all agree on that?

                      Centers: Jeff Saturday and Matt Birk (I truly think Birk stays, but I think Saturday comes to Buffalo in a deal similar to Langston Walker last season)

                      OLB: Bart Scott (I bet they don't go after him and resign Crowell to an incentive laden deal)

                      But, would landing Saturday and a few mid-level free agents do the trick?

                      I doubt it.

                      But hey...Brandon is a marketing guy who knows that he has got to do something to keep ticket sales up. He may just have something up his sleeve....guess we'll have to wait and see....
                      Saturday doesn't seem to fit the mold of the big O-line the current regime seemingly favors. That's why I think a guy like Jason Brown does. I won't deny Scott's a good player but don't see us pursuing a guy like him. As have a feeling we'll pursue Crowell but if he leaves we'll end up going with a cheap veteran perhaps Brady Poppinga to compete with Ellison and Bowen.

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                      • T-Long
                        Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3848
                        #12
                        Re: Big Splash

                        bottom line they need an upgrade at center and I don't think that comes in the draft because there is no center who is worth an early 1st round pick.

                        I think they HAVE to go after Saturday or Birk to fill out the O-line.

                        Ellison should NEVER start a football game unless the guy ahead of him is hurt. He is NOT a starter and never will be. I think our needs go in order as...

                        1. DE
                        2. OLB
                        3. C

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                        • Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 349
                          #13
                          Re: Big Splash

                          Yeah, of those guys you mentioned in the linebackers' list I'm not sure. Ray Lewis is not going anywhere and maybe Vilma (I'm not really aware how good he did in NO) but can he even play as an outside linebacker? The same question goes to James Farrior, another top guy in the list.

                          Anyway, I don't think Brandon is interested and I don't even know if I'm interested. If we are talking about a big free agency signing I would prefer to focus in our defensive line or our offensive line.

                          Just sign Crowell and we would have:

                          Crowell - Posluszny - Mitchell ... depth: Ellison & DiGiorgio

                          That's good and we would be able to focus in the pass rushing defensive end.

                          EDIT - But of course Bart Scott would be a nice pick-up.
                          I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller!

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                          • T-Long
                            Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3848
                            #14
                            Re: Big Splash

                            I'm fine with not going for an OLB in the draft (obviously if Curry isn't at pick 11), but I think we definitely go DE with our first pick. I don't know of any difference makers coming out in Free Agency at that position besides Peppers and Berry...and Ralph would never pay for those guys anyway

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                            • Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
                              Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 349
                              #15
                              Re: Big Splash

                              Julius Peppers!
                              I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller!
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