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  • Ickybaluky
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 8884

    Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

    According to Andrew Brandt, the former Packers executive who runs the National Football Post website, the Bills are one of 4 teams that didn't carry over all their unused cap room from last year to this year. Brandt, who breaks down financial matters having to do with the NFL in his excellent column, the Bills lost $5M in cap room.

    Here is the relevant part:

    As expected, most teams used these maneuvers to dial down their Cap room to minimal levels at the end of the season. However, in what appears to be a precedent-setting move, it appears that four teams left over $40M of Cap room on the table.

    According to Salary Cap data, the Buffalo Bills and Atlanta Falcons did not use roughly $5M each of Cap room, the Cincinnati Bengals did not use $10.8M of Cap room and, astonishingly, the Kansas City Chiefs elected to not carry forward almost $22M of available Cap room to 2009, preferring to leave their money on the table in 2008, never to be used again.

    With a projected $123M Cap for 2009, all of these teams are presently showing less than $100M of committed Cap expenses for the year, so having extra room does not appear to be a problem. However, from a football operations point of view, it is always better to have as much flexibility as possible, which these teams appear not to be doing.

    It will be interesting to see the union’s reaction to over $43M of available Cap room being flushed away with the end of the 2008 Cap year, never to be heard from again. $43M can pay a lot of players…
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  • streetkings01
    Registered User
    • Jul 2006
    • 2980

    #2
    Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

    More reason to be depressed to be a Bills fan!
    You can call me streetkings

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    • Jan Reimers
      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
      • May 2003
      • 17353

      #3
      Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

      More astute cap management from our front office.

      And we wonder why we haven't made the playoffs since the last millenium?
      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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      • ddaryl
        Everything I post is sexual inuendo
        • Jan 2005
        • 10714

        #4
        Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

        is there any penalty for moving the cap room over and not using it ?

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        • Ickybaluky
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 8884

          #5
          Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

          Originally posted by ddaryl
          is there any penalty for moving the cap room over and not using it ?
          Not as long as you meet the cap floor, which is 90% of the cap ceiling. As long as you use up the minimum, you don't have to carry over the rest.

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          • HHURRICANE
            Registered User
            • Mar 2005
            • 15490

            #6
            Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

            But Ralph is not cheap.

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            • HHURRICANE
              Registered User
              • Mar 2005
              • 15490

              #7
              Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

              So the Bills are good enough that they don't need to take advanatge of an extra 5 million dollars in 2009?

              Nice.

              I'd like someone to justify this one considering we have FA and Peters on the docket.

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              • Stewie
                Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                • Aug 2002
                • 11567

                #8
                Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                whats the point of carrying something over if you're not going to use it.. and 2010 is uncapped so who cares really?
                Originally posted by Topdog
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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670

                  #9
                  Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                  Originally posted by NE39
                  According to Andrew Brandt, the former Packers executive who runs the National Football Post website, the Bills are one of 4 teams that didn't carry over all their unused cap room from last year to this year. Brandt, who breaks down financial matters having to do with the NFL in his excellent column, the Bills lost $5M in cap room.

                  Here is the relevant part:



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                  Thats a silly way to write it by that columnist.

                  What hes saying is that we chose not to use all of our cap room. That doesnt mean we wont have the same cap everyone else does this year... we will.

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                  • Typ0
                    honey pie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 32593

                    #10
                    Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                    Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                    Thats a silly way to write it by that columnist.

                    What hes saying is that we chose not to use all of our cap room. That doesnt mean we wont have the same cap everyone else does this year... we will.
                    but they could use that cap room to transfer some future expenditures thereby freeing up more room in the future. Is this what he's talking about? I agree it's confusing but it seems this is part of the cash to the crap philosophy. Every team that spends their cap dollars is going to have a competitive advantage over us.

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                    • Philagape
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 19432

                      #11
                      Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                      I've love to hear from someone who's surprised by this.
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                      • NC-BILLS44
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1281

                        #12
                        Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                        If the Bills can show extra cap money is available, players and their agents can ask for even more. I don't agree with the philosophy, but I think I understand that the more is available, the more will be asked. In other words it is a way for the Bills to be - CHEAP.

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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                          Originally posted by paulB
                          whats the point of carrying something over if you're not going to use it.. and 2010 is uncapped so who cares really?
                          I'll give you $5 more million reasons why Ralph cares.. its now his money.


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                          • methos4ever
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1557

                            #14
                            Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                            Last year, the bills carried over a ton of space to this year (clump I think can confirm or deny this). I think at the end of the day, some of the owners are bracing for the next round of negotiations and want it to look as much as possible like they're barely getting by.

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                            • madness
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 13690

                              #15
                              Re: Bills one of 4 teams that don't carry over cap room

                              I wish I could give myself a 5 million dollar raise.

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