I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

**THATHURMANATOR** · 01-05-2009, 04:16 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

I am cool with this but what DEs are available in FA?

**patmoran2006** · 01-05-2009, 04:20 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR

I am cool with this but what DEs are available in FA?

Dont know of a lot off the top of my head and no list in front of me. I know Antonio Smith and Bertrand Berry from Arizona are both UFA.

Julius Peppers could be if not franchised, but Carolina has a choice to make, because if they tag Peppers they can't tag Jordan Gross, an All Pro OT.

Regardless, it seems you can draft LB and if its the right guy they make an instant impact. NOt just the ROY winners. Jon Beason was a beast for Carolina from day one, Keith Rivers was having a solid year for Cinci last year til he broke his jaw.

Telling you. A playmaking LB would be great for this defense. lets find a quality DE in FA and draft a LB at 11-- that should help this swiss cheese defense immensely.

**PECKERWOOD** · 01-05-2009, 04:21 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by patmoran2006

I'm starting to hope we really identify the best one available and draft him.

I was astonished to seem at how much more success rookie LB's have in this league right off the bat.

The past 6 Defensive ROY have all been LB's

2008; Jarod Mayo
2007: Patrick Willis
2006: DeMarco Ryans
2005: Shawn Merriman
2004: Johnathan Vilma
2003: Terrell Suggs

F-That. Give me a LB at #11 and shore up other spots (DE big-time, C, TE) in free agency.

What LB's are we looking at that are probably there at #11?

This is what I've been saying.

Upgrade DE in FA for sure. We don't have to take a LB at 11 tho, could get somebody good in the 2nd round I bet.

**patmoran2006** · 01-05-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by BuffaloFever

This is what I've been saying.

OK, well Im saying it too-- assuming there is a good LB for us there at #11.

I'd be frontin if I said I knew a lot about this year's LB crop (at least as of now I would be)

**DraftBoy** · 01-05-2009, 04:23 PM

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Top guy without question is Aaron Curry. After that there is a slight dropoff.

**patmoran2006** · 01-05-2009, 04:25 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by DraftBoy

Top guy without question is Aaron Curry. After that there is a slight dropoff.

a drop off to a point where taking a LB at #11 would be a huge reach? Like Whitner'ish?

From what I heard aint no way Curry will be there at 11

**X-Era** · 01-05-2009, 04:32 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by patmoran2006

I'm starting to hope we really identify the best one available and draft him.

I was astonished to seem at how much more success rookie LB's have in this league right off the bat.

The past 6 Defensive ROY have all been LB's

2008; Jarod Mayo
2007: Patrick Willis
2006: DeMarco Ryans
2005: Shawn Merriman
2004: Johnathan Vilma
2003: Terrell Suggs

F-That. Give me a LB at #11 and shore up other spots (DE big-time, C, TE) in free agency.

What LB's are we looking at that are probably there at #11?

There is a shot at Aaron Curry falling that far. Some see him as top 10, even 5. I think though that you could see a few players go very high:

Stafford
Bradford
Crabtree
maybe Oher or Monroe
Andre Smith
Then guys like Vontae Davis
Malcom Jenkins
I think Maclin could go top 10

Thats 8, and heres where it gets dicey... maybe the top ILB is ranked higher than Curry, maybe Maualuga, or maybe the top DE is ranked higher than Curry, maybe Maybin or Orakpo.

Its a real stretch to see Curry fall that far.

So, more realistic is to say that we are likely able to land:

The top FS
The top or #2 DE
The top or #2 ILB

C? Yes we could get the top one, but I just cant see that anyone is worth that high a pick at this point
TE? Yes, a guy like Gresham or Pettigrew would be there, but its just too high IMO for one of them... Id feel better about a trade down with someone who covets a ILB or OT... maybe to the bottom 3rd of round 1 and pick up a 2nd. Thats not a bad idea if we get say Pettigrew, Mack, and then Weatherspoon for example or a DE.

I say ILB because many can see Poz going outside, but theres risk there obviously.

In the end it looks remote at this point for Curry to fall to 11, but its possible based on how things may fall.

**X-Era** · 01-05-2009, 04:49 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by patmoran2006

I'm starting to hope we really identify the best one available and draft him.

I was astonished to seem at how much more success rookie LB's have in this league right off the bat.

The past 6 Defensive ROY have all been LB's

2008; Jarod Mayo
2007: Patrick Willis
2006: DeMarco Ryans
2005: Shawn Merriman
2004: Johnathan Vilma
2003: Terrell Suggs

F-That. Give me a LB at #11 and shore up other spots (DE big-time, C, TE) in free agency.

What LB's are we looking at that are probably there at #11?

Willis, Merriman, and Suggs are the guys that I think are studs in that group... The rest just arent studs to me yet.

All went top 15, and only Merriman went below 10 at 12.

Curry is the playmaker OLB in this bunch and probably the best LB period. If you want him, you go and move up if neccessary to get him... no more settling on a team that can manage to get beyond being average.

Everyone sees the guy as a star potential LB, you just make that move and do it. Will we? We probably amke a few calls and offer **** that wont get it done, but no we probably wont. Why not fill your talent with more of that lesser, mediocre talent, but hey... we will have lots of them when we keep all of our picks.

Just doesnt do it for me anymore, sorry.

If your going to get your best players, supposedly, through the draft then you ought to get the best damn ones possible and be willing to move up even into the early 1st to do it.

**PECKERWOOD** · 01-05-2009, 04:54 PM

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Pos	Player Name	FA Status	Previous Team	Current Team
DL	Titus Adams	Re-signed	New England Patriots	New England Patriots
DL	Victor Adeyanju	RFA	St. Louis Rams	Free Agent
DL	C.J. Ah You	Signed	Free Agent	St. Louis Rams
DL	Matthias Askew	Re-signed	Denver Broncos	Denver Broncos
DL	Jonathan Babineaux	UFA	Atlanta Falcons	Free Agent
DL	Bertrand Berry	UFA	Arizona Cardinals	Free Agent
DL	Ray Blagman	ERFA	Arizona Cardinals	Free Agent
DT	Fred Bledsoe	Re-signed	Green Bay Packers	Green Bay Packers
DL	Copeland Bryan	RFA	Buffalo Bills	Free Agent
DL	Kevin Carter	UFA	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Free Agent
DL	Joe Clermond	Signed	Free Agent	Chicago Bears
DL	Shaun Cody	UFA	Detroit Lions	Free Agent
DL	Angelo Craig	Re-signed	New England Patriots	New England Patriots
DL	Dwan Edwards	UFA	Baltimore Ravens	Free Agent
DL	Demetric Evans	UFA	Washington Redskins	Free Agent
DL	Fred Evans	RFA	Minnesota Vikings	Free Agent
DL	Ronald Fields	UFA	San Francisco 49ers	Free Agent
DL	La'Roi Glover	UFA	St. Louis Rams	Free Agent
DL	Kedric Golston	RFA	Washington Redskins	Free Agent
DL	Howard Green	UFA	Seattle Seahawks	Free Agent
DL	Otis Grigsby	RFA	Minnesota Vikings	Free Agent
DL	Tommie Harris	UFA	Chicago Bears	Free Agent
DL	Albert Haynesworth	UFA	Tennessee Titans	Free Agent
DL	Jason Hunter	RFA	Green Bay Packers	Free Agent
DL	Tank Johnson	UFA	Dallas Cowboys	Free Agent
DL	Antwan Lake	UFA	New Orleans Saints	Free Agent
DL	Louis Leonard	ERFA	Cleveland Browns	Free Agent
DL	Ryan McBean	Re-signed	Denver Broncos	Denver Broncos
DL	Tony McDaniel	RFA	Jacksonville Jaguars	Free Agent
DL	Rob Meier	UFA	Jacksonville Jaguars	Free Agent
DL	Jayme Mitchell	RFA	Minnesota Vikings	Free Agent
DL	Anthony Montgomery	RFA	Washington Redskins	Free Agent
DL	Mike Montgomery	UFA	Green Bay Packers	Free Agent
DL	Eric M. Moore	UFA	St. Louis Rams	Free Agent
DL	C.J. Mosley	UFA	New York Jets	Free Agent
DL	Ryan Neill	ERFA	Buffalo Bills	Free Agent
DL	Julius Peppers	UFA	Carolina Panthers	Free Agent
DL	Kenny Peterson	UFA	Denver Broncos	Free Agent
DL	Darrell Robertson	Re-signed	New England Patriots	New England Patriots
DL	Ryan Sims	UFA	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Free Agent
DL	Paul Spicer	UFA	Jacksonville Jaguars	Free Agent
DL	Michael Strahan	UFA	New York Giants	Free Agent
DL	John Thornton	UFA	Cincinnati Bengals	Free Agent
DL	Marcus Tubbs	UFA	Seattle Seahawks	Free Agent
DL	Kenechi Udeze	UFA	Minnesota Vikings	Free Agent
DL	Jimmy Verdon	RFA	Cincinnati Bengals	Free Agent
DL	Kevin Vickerson	UFA	Tennessee Titans	Free Agent
DL	Gabe Watson	RFA	Arizona Cardinals	Free Agent
DL	Willie X. Williams	Re-signed	St. Louis Rams	St. Louis Rams
DL	Jeff Zgonina	UFA	Houston Texans	Free Agent

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Terrell Suggs too but they have him listed as a LB.

**Oaf** · 01-05-2009, 05:05 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Udeze?

Get the Curryman

**Lexwhat** · 01-05-2009, 05:11 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

We already have a pro-bowl LB in Keith Ellison.

Where have you been?

**Mahdi** · 01-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by patmoran2006

I'm starting to hope we really identify the best one available and draft him.

I was astonished to seem at how much more success rookie LB's have in this league right off the bat.

The past 6 Defensive ROY have all been LB's

2008; Jarod Mayo
2007: Patrick Willis
2006: DeMarco Ryans
2005: Shawn Merriman
2004: Johnathan Vilma
2003: Terrell Suggs

F-That. Give me a LB at #11 and shore up other spots (DE big-time, C, TE) in free agency.

What LB's are we looking at that are probably there at #11?

Who can we possibly get in FA to play DE? No one lets these guys go anymore... Suggs will be franchised as will Peppers... who does that leave.

I would rather get a stud DE in the draft that will make our entire LB unit look good instead of one LB that can only do his job.

A good DE means our LBs cover for a shorter time, can blitz more effectively, and have an easier time knifing through in the run game. A good LB in a cover 2 is dependent on the DL.

**PECKERWOOD** · 01-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by Oaf

Udeze?

Get the Curryman

Isn't he just getting out of chemotherapy treatment for cancer?

**X-Era** · 01-05-2009, 05:49 PM

Re: I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

Originally posted by Mahdi

Who can we possibly get in FA to play DE? No one lets these guys go anymore... Suggs will be franchised as will Peppers... who does that leave.

I would rather get a stud DE in the draft that will make our entire LB unit look good instead of one LB that can only do his job.

A good DE means our LBs cover for a shorter time, can blitz more effectively, and have an easier time knifing through in the run game. A good LB in a cover 2 is dependent on the DL.

Suggs has a deal with the Ravens that they will NOT franchise him this year.

I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

I dont know squat about this years rookie LB crop, but...

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