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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

    This is from a blog by Brian Jennings, long snapper for the SF 49ers.. I love what he writes here, because this is so true.

    "First, no draft pick can single handedly save a franchise. Organizations and fans expect too much from young players. Young players do not save franchises, franchises save young players.

    For example, Terrell Suggs, a great player and friend (and fellow Arizona State alumni), was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens. During his rookie year, T. Sizzle's primary responsibility was rushing the passer on third downs. As he improved, under the tutelage of a great defense (coaches and players), he took on more responsibility. Now he's a Pro Bowler and considered one of the best in the NFL. Here is the kicker: had he been drafted by the Arizona Cardinals instead of the Ravens, he would have been Andre Wadsworth. Great college player, big, strong, fast, all the potential in the world., but just did not work out. I have all the respect in the world for Andre Wadsworth�.it's not his fault he got drafted by the Cardinals in the '90s."


    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...e_Draft/458620

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    This is so true. There are probably so many great talents that 'busted" in part at least because of the franchise that drafted them. I mean honestly, would Tom Brady have been Tom Brady if he was drafted by the Bills and had a string of coaches like Williams, Mularkey and Jauron; or OC's like Fairchild and Turk?


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  • Thurmal
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 2412

    #2
    Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

    Simeon Rice and Eric Swann seemed to do OK as DE's for Arizona in the '90s.

    Also, tons of young players have resurrected franchises.
    "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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    • ddaryl
      Everything I post is sexual inuendo
      • Jan 2005
      • 10714

      #3
      Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

      none the less there are rookie of the year and others who do make huge contributions and start...

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      • patmoran2006
        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
        • Dec 2005
        • 19840

        #4
        Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

        Originally posted by Thurmal
        Simeon Rice and Eric Swann seemed to do OK as DE's for Arizona in the '90s.

        Also, tons of young players have resurrected franchises.
        Agreed.
        Just saying the "bust" factor is higher when good talents go to badly run teams.


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        • ddaryl
          Everything I post is sexual inuendo
          • Jan 2005
          • 10714

          #5
          Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

          Originally posted by patmoran2006
          Agreed.
          Just saying the "bust" factor is higher when good talents go to badly run teams.
          which re-itterates our cry for better coaches for the Bills, and the argument that better coaches would have had this Bills team in the playoffs this year

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          • Patti120
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 2333

            #6
            Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

            Originally posted by ddaryl
            which re-itterates our cry for better coaches for the Bills, and the argument that better coaches would have had this Bills team in the playoffs this year
            C'mon guys, you're not trying to say that JP was the coaches fault are you?

            JK! lol!

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            • Thurmal
              Registered User
              • Oct 2005
              • 2412

              #7
              Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

              Originally posted by Patti120
              C'mon guys, you're not trying to say that JP was the coaches fault are you?

              JK! lol!
              It would be interesting to see how he would've turned out without Mularkey doing everything he could to ruin JP's career.

              JP Losman was handled about as poorly as a young QB could be.
              "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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              • Mr. Pink
                Peterman Sucks!
                • Mar 2006
                • 35303

                #8
                Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player



                Go figure an NFL player sticking up for other NFL players.

                Good players elevate the play of those around them...regardless of who they have around them. This is why there are league standouts even on bad football teams.

                Terrell Suggs would have been a good player no matter where he played....likewise Andre Wadsworth would have been garbage anywhere he played.

                Systems don't make the player...players make the system.

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                • Barb
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 146

                  #9
                  Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                  Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!


                  Go figure an NFL player sticking up for other NFL players.

                  Good players elevate the play of those around them...regardless of who they have around them. This is why there are league standouts even on bad football teams.

                  Terrell Suggs would have been a good player no matter where he played....likewise Andre Wadsworth would have been garbage anywhere he played.

                  Systems don't make the player...players make the system.
                  so last year Joey Porter was out of his natural position and he doesn´t do anything and this year he was in the same system he was used in pittsburgh and what happenend.....17 1/2 sacks, i´m pretty sure that there is some players out there that can make a system, but the more often a system makes a player

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                  • SquishDaFish
                    Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 17034

                    #10
                    Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                    That has been my argument about JP. Yes he sucked in a Bills uniform but most of that has to do with the ****ty coaches we have had and the amount of coaching changes we have had. Changing systems and playing musical QBs all the time.

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                    • Mr. Pink
                      Peterman Sucks!
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 35303

                      #11
                      Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                      Originally posted by Barb
                      so last year Joey Porter was out of his natural position and he doesn´t do anything and this year he was in the same system he was used in pittsburgh and what happenend.....17 1/2 sacks, i´m pretty sure that there is some players out there that can make a system, but the more often a system makes a player

                      When you give a good player freedom to create...you get what Joey Porter did.

                      It's not just like they coulda put Aaron Shoebel there and had the same results.

                      If it's the system, then you could plug anyone in and expect the same results...doesn't work that way.

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                      • BILLSROCK1212
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 5269

                        #12
                        Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                        now can any1 disagree Andre Johnson is friggen amazing look at the team he was drafted to

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                        • Mr. Pink
                          Peterman Sucks!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 35303

                          #13
                          Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                          Originally posted by BILLSROCK1212
                          now can any1 disagree Andre Johnson is friggen amazing look at the team he was drafted to

                          That's exactly my point.

                          You nailed it.

                          Great players are great no matter where they play.

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                          • BILLSROCK1212
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5269

                            #14
                            Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                            Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                            That's exactly my point.

                            You nailed it.

                            Great players are great no matter where they play.
                            ahaha yea....i'm curious though....is Randy Moss great cas if he isn't then what is Daunte Culpepper??

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #15
                              Re: Great view about a draft pick from a NFL player

                              Originally posted by BILLSROCK1212
                              ahaha yea....i'm curious though....is Randy Moss great cas if he isn't then what is Daunte Culpepper??

                              Daunte was a tremendous QB and athlete til he shredded his knee.

                              Randy can turn it on and off like a switch, if he decided to go all out, all the time...he'd easily be the greatest WR in the history of the NFL.

                              As it stands he's still top 10.

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