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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

    last year... And then they went and showed why they were worthy:

    DeSean Jackson- Yeah, he cant play

    Eddie Royal- Hes not worth a 2nd round pick

    I would take either one of them over Hardy at this point.

    Maybe this year we can try to not out think ourselves, and get playmakers regardless if they arent prototypical height or size.

    Guys like Orakpo, and Brown come to mind.

    Playmakers make plays... period.

  • LtFinFan66
    Registered User
    • Mar 2005
    • 47199

    #2
    Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

    It's easy to make that call after the fact

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    • X-Era
      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
      • Feb 2005
      • 27670

      #3
      Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

      Originally posted by LtFinFan66
      It's easy to make that call after the fact
      Yes, it is.

      But you can also take a look at how I felt about both before the draft.

      The point isn't about whether we made the right choice or not... its more about some of us trying so hard to point us away from some playmakers because they arent prototypical size.

      You could then head down the road of second guessing guys who do have the prototypical size but have some issues like heart.

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      • FavresShoulder
        Registered User
        • Jan 2009
        • 2

        #4
        Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

        Obviously, but the point is the ability of this front office to evaluate talent is sub-standard. There were other receivers available who are now contributing that the Bills could've had instead of Hardy.

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

          Originally posted by FavresShoulder
          Obviously, but the point is the ability of this front office to evaluate talent is sub-standard. There were other receivers available who are now contributing that the Bills could've had instead of Hardy.
          My point is that both these guys looked more like the playmakers we needed than Hardy. But they werent tall enough.

          That seems like a really weak ass excuse right about now.

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          • MikeInRoch
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 10446

            #6
            Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

            Judging a Wide Receiver after one year is certainly a great idea.
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            • X-Era
              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
              • Feb 2005
              • 27670

              #7
              Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

              Originally posted by MikeInRoch
              Judging a Wide Receiver after one year is certainly a great idea.
              No judge, no jury, no nothing.

              I simply said that I would take either over Hardy right now.

              Thats a straight up comparison of two guys against another when all were rookies.

              The better point is that some had these guys WAY below Hardy before the draft.

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              • Mr. Pink
                Peterman Sucks!
                • Mar 2006
                • 35303

                #8
                Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                Hindsight is definitely 20/20

                But

                Throughout the past decade we can do this on every single draft pick we've made.

                At some point you have to stop and question the talent evaluators that we continue to move forward with year after year for their moves.

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                • Mitchell55
                  only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5214

                  #9
                  Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                  Im sorry to say it but look at miami. They were blasted for not taking Quinn and look at how they turned out with ginn. Alot better than Quinn in Cleveland.

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                  • Mahdi
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10585

                    #10
                    Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                    Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                    last year... And then they went and showed why they were worthy:

                    DeSean Jackson- Yeah, he cant play

                    Eddie Royal- Hes not worth a 2nd round pick

                    I would take either one of them over Hardy at this point.

                    Maybe this year we can try to not out think ourselves, and get playmakers regardless if they arent prototypical height or size.

                    Guys like Orakpo, and Brown come to mind.

                    Playmakers make plays... period.
                    In a year from now you can be looking back at this thread thinking how glad you are that we drafted Hardy.

                    How do you know he wont have a breakout season next year and become a dominant WR? Just like we didnt know how much better Desean and Eddie were going to be this year.

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                    • Mr. Pink
                      Peterman Sucks!
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 35303

                      #11
                      Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                      Originally posted by Mahdi
                      In a year from now you can be looking back at this thread thinking how glad you are that we drafted Hardy.

                      How do you know he wont have a breakout season next year and become a dominant WR? Just like we didnt know how much better Desean and Eddie were going to be this year.

                      I can guarantee you we won't be saying that next year.

                      In fact, you can probably even make the very same guarantee.

                      It's simple....Hardy likely won't play much next year, if at all. Torn ACL = he's probably done for the year.

                      With that injury and the position he plays, his career might even be basically over. Never to amount to the fruition it possibly could have.

                      Thing is from what we saw in him, it's not really a major blow to our offense.

                      And injury not withstanding, Hardy was outperformed by guys like Davone Bess.

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                      • superbills
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1170

                        #12
                        Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                        Originally posted by Mitchell59
                        Im sorry to say it but look at miami. They were blasted for not taking Quinn and look at how they turned out with ginn. Alot better than Quinn in Cleveland.
                        Ummm...Quinn has hardly played. You're comparing a QB to a WR. The WR has started since day 1 of being drafted. Quinn has barely seen the field. This comparison is way off.
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                        • John Doe
                          Florida Man
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2516

                          #13
                          Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                          Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                          It's simple....Hardy likely won't play much next year, if at all. Torn ACL = he's probably done for the year.

                          With that injury and the position he plays, his career might even be basically over. Never to amount to the fruition it possibly could have.
                          I doubt that his career is over due to the torn ACL - there are plenty of young players that have come back from them.

                          Ronnie Brown had one last year and looked pretty good this season.

                          McGahee came back from much worse.

                          Michael Irvine had a pretty good career after suffering one in his first season.

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                          • homeslice5484
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1042

                            #14
                            Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                            we got stevie johnson, he will play over hardy next year



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                            • Tatonka
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 21289

                              #15
                              Re: Heres a few guys some rooted against us grabbing

                              Originally posted by EdwardsEra
                              My point is that both these guys looked more like the playmakers we needed than Hardy. But they werent tall enough.

                              That seems like a really weak ass excuse right about now.
                              are you trying to say that hardy didnt look like a playmaker in college?

                              i think your full of ****.
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