Hmmmmmmmmm

[BillsWin]

Pittsburgh is a good team. What do they have that we don't?


Let's discuss. I know there is ALOT to list...

I can start.

Competent coaching staff.

[Mr. Pink]

A QB

A playmaking S.

A bonafide star RB.

A true number 1 WR.

A pass rush.

If we had all those, we'd be playing football in January too.

[Typ0]

A QB

A playmaking S.

A bonafide star RB.

A true number 1 WR.

A pass rush.

If we had all those, we'd be playing football in January too.

we have all-stars in those areas but our coaching stinks.

[LtFinFan66]

Really....explain the pass rush to me?

[Mr. Pink]

Really....explain the pass rush to me?

Being a fan of the Bills and Browns I'm not sure if I'm qualified enough to explain a pass rush. It's been so long since I've seen one on a weekly basis.

Seriously though...Rivers has been sacked 4 times thus far and Pittsburgh had 51 sacks on the year as a team.

[LtFinFan66]

Being a fan of the Bills and Browns I'm not sure if I'm qualified enough to explain a pass rush. It's been so long since I've seen one on a weekly basis.

Seriously though...Rivers has been sacked 4 times thus far and Pittsburgh had 51 sacks on the year as a team.Typo said the Bills possess a pash rush. That's what I was questioning(as to who exactly is your "star" pass rusher)

[Mr. Pink]

Typo said the Bills possess a pash rush. That's what I was questioning

I believe he was being sarcastic!

[LtFinFan66]

I don't think he was

[Mitchell55]

A QB- I think Trent is better. At least Trent doesnt average 5 fumbles and 3 INTs a game like Ben.

A playmaking S- True

A bonafide star RB. You my friend are a dumb ass. Parker isnt even close to Lynch. Not only that Jackson is as good as Parker in my opinion.

A true number 1 WR. The only reason Ward is still who he is is because he has a true number 2 in Holmes. Evans is superior.

A pass rush. True

If we had all those, we'd be playing football in January too.



Add coaching, TE, OL, solid LB core

[Mr. Pink]

:rofl:

Trent is better than Big Ben? That doesn't even warrant a response nor explanation.

Hines Ward is an all around WR. He can go deep, he can run routes in the middle of the field, he can block. Basically he's Lee Evans and Josh Reed rolled into one guy.

Meanwhile, Lee's skill set is on par with Santonio Holmes.

Compare the years where Parker is relatively healthy compared to Marshawn Lynch's two relatively healthy seasons...It's no contest who's better.

BTW, our O-line is about equal to Pittsburgh's. They don't run block particularly well and Big Ben is harassed almost weekly. Pittsburgh gave up 48 sacks, we gave up 38.

[Mitchell55]

:rofl:

Trent is better than Big Ben? That doesn't even warrant a response nor explanation.

Hines Ward is an all around WR. He can go deep, he can run routes in the middle of the field, he can block. Basically he's Lee Evans and Josh Reed rolled into one guy.

Meanwhile, Lee's skill set is on par with Santonio Holmes.

Compare the years where Parker is relatively healthy compared to Marshawn Lynch's two relatively healthy seasons...It's no contest who's better.

BTW, our O-line is about equal to Pittsburgh's. They don't run block particularly well and Big Ben is harassed almost weekly. Pittsburgh gave up 48 sacks, we gave up 38.



Dude, obviously you have never watched a pittsburgh game. Ben holds the ball for about 5-6 seconds before throwing it. The line is good but Ben is just not. He had 31 turnovers in 16 games. Thats 2 turnovers a game. There fans all want him gone.


Willie Parker

Last year when Parker was healthy he had 1300 yards and only 3 TDs and 4 ypc.

[Mr. Pink]

Dude, obviously you have never watched a pittsburgh game. Ben holds the ball for about 5-6 seconds before throwing it. The line is good but Ben is just not. He had 31 turnovers in 16 games. Thats 2 turnovers a game. There fans all want him gone.


Willie Parker

Last year when Parker was healthy he had 1300 yards and only 3 TDs and 4 ypc.


Pittsburgh fans want him gone? News to me. When did you move to Pittsburgh that you've heard this?

Last year he threw 32 TD passes to 11 INTs. Trent has to throw for 32 TD passes in his career.

Not too mention Ben is the 5th QB in NFL history, since merger, to take his team to the playoffs 4 out of their first 5 seasons.

But yeah, you're right Trent is better than Big Ben! If only the Steelers had Trent, imagine how well they'd do!

BTW go look at what Parker did two years ago...1500 yards 13 TDs. Those are numbers that Lynch will never duplicate.

[Devin]

Pittsburgh has arguably one of if not the best S in football. It has easily the best LB corps in football, led by probably the best all around defender in the game (Harrison).

Their coaching staff is so far ahead of us its really not even fair.

Big Ben.

They have a top notch WR tandem in Ward/Holmes.

They have a legit pass catching TE. We have Robert Royal.

Lynch is good. Parker is better. Lynch is a hard runner, Parker is a home run hitter.

Damn this list is getting long....

[Turbo.GUN.Hawk!]

Did I just hear someone said Trent is better than Big Ben?

Oh my - today I woke up in a wicked world.

[Patrick76777]

So many friggen cry babies on this board.

[TacklingDummy]

Pittsburgh is a good team. What do they have that we don't?


Let's discuss. I know there is ALOT to list...

I can start.

Competent coaching staff.


Does Pittsburgh have a Pro-Bowl left tackle? How are they so good without one? How are any of these teams going to win the Super Bowl without a Pro-Bowl left tackle?

[Thurmal]

The only glaring disparities are in coaching and defense.

Any team in the NFL would be in the playoffs with that D. As long as the offense didn't turn the ball over 6 times a game, you'd be fine.

I think a lot of you are underestimating our talent on offense, too. It's not their fault that are coaches are too stupid to know how to best utilize it.

[billogic99]

we have all-stars in those areas but our coaching stinks.

Uh, NO!

[Lexwhat]

Does Pittsburgh have a Pro-Bowl left tackle? How are they so good without one? How are any of these teams going to win the Super Bowl without a Pro-Bowl left tackle?

The Steelers line is very good in Run support, especially the left side. Max Starks (LT) is not a household name, but he's decent and has improved this year. Starks may be similar to Langston Walker, but I don't know for sure.

I follow the Steelers a bit, and also remember him because he was picked in the 3rd round of the 2004 draft RIGHT after Tim Anderson.

I am not opposed to trading away any particular player, but the problem is we don't have anyone to replace Peters with. Chambers is not the answer!

I still really wish we would have drafted a Tackle/Guard in this draft instead of McKelvin. We would have much more flexibility.

[Typ0]

Uh, NO!

come on man. They would just be shipping the entire bills team off to the pro bowl but our coaches have turned our entire roster into crap.

[Night Train]

Pittsburgh has a great family of owners named Rooney.

They hire GOOD coaches who serve long tenures, leave them alone and don't meddle.

[lukabrossi]

The Steelers' head office has always made a commitment to winning....and it shows in their team.

[Mr. Miyagi]

We should've kept Dick LeBeau and booted Jerry Gray out on the street.

[Patti120]

We should've kept Dick LeBeau and booted Jerry Gray out on the street.

I wish we would have kept this Dick on our team too. An entire bottle of viagra couldn't get any life out of the Dick we currently have on our team.

[justasportsfan]

A QB

A playmaking S.

A bonafide star RB.

A true number 1 WR.

A pass rush.

If we had all those, we'd be playing football in January too.


the coaches and FO had 3 years to make that happen. So if our talent sucks, our coaches and Fo suck at seeing talent.

Dick "we really like kelsay...... Trent is years ahead ......Whitner is a football player ....balh,blah,blah"

There are players who this coaching staff decided to cut are not only in the playoffs but are playing better than the players our coaching staff decided to keep.

Whitner can only wish he's in Leonards shoes. You can't tell me that Gandy is more talented than Peters.

[DynaPaul]

Forget the players. They have a team that plays VERY physical and knows how to win.

[Mitchell55]

Pittsburgh fans want him gone? News to me. When did you move to Pittsburgh that you've heard this?

Last year he threw 32 TD passes to 11 INTs. Trent has to throw for 32 TD passes in his career.

Not too mention Ben is the 5th QB in NFL history, since merger, to take his team to the playoffs 4 out of their first 5 seasons.

But yeah, you're right Trent is better than Big Ben! If only the Steelers had Trent, imagine how well they'd do!

BTW go look at what Parker did two years ago...1500 yards 13 TDs. Those are numbers that Lynch will never duplicate.




Ben also had a HOF coach, maybe a HOF Guard, and a HOF WR. Trent has a horrible coach a decent line and a second string WR as starter.

[Ingtar33]

Pittsburgh is a good team. What do they have that we don't


Ben Rothlesburger
Hines Ward
Willy Parker
Heath Miller
Casey Hampton
Aaron Smith
James Farrier
Larry Foote
James Harrison
Troy Polamalu

[Nighthawk]

A QB

A playmaking S.

A bonafide star RB.

A true number 1 WR.

A pass rush.

If we had all those, we'd be playing football in January too.


Really? I don't think you can say that Ward is a true #1 anymore...he definitely lost a step. Parker is a good back, but not a bonafide star...not even close.

[billogic99]

come on man. They would just be shipping the entire bills team off to the pro bowl but our coaches have turned our entire roster into crap.

Sorry but no matter how bad your coaches are, if you have talent you can make the pro bowl. Look at Peters! We can all cry about the coaching, but the talent is just as much to blame. Look how soft the schedule was this year, talent alone should have won more than 7 games.

[X-Era]

Really....explain the pass rush to me?

Sorry, I really am...

I respect you, respect your fanship, BUT

That sig makes me want to :puke:

[Thurmal]

Really? I don't think you can say that Ward is a true #1 anymore...he definitely lost a step. Parker is a good back, but not a bonafide star...not even close.
Exactly. Hines Ward is being overrated greatly in this thread. Some have even said he is a future HOF'er. Are you kidding me?

[Typ0]

Sorry but no matter how bad your coaches are, if you have talent you can make the pro bowl. Look at Peters! We can all cry about the coaching, but the talent is just as much to blame. Look how soft the schedule was this year, talent alone should have won more than 7 games.

not when you have bad coaches. Bad coaches negate good talent and good coaches negate bad talent. If only we had good coaches we could pick up a team at Anchor Bar friday before the game and win every week. The way things are now, we have the all-time all-star roster and we can't even get to .500 because our coaches suck so bad.

[lukabrossi]

The coaching for the Bills over the years has gone from bad to worse. There really doesn't seem to be an end in sight for where the bottom will drop out for this team.......and it would be a good time for the organization to finally make a commitment to winning, earn some respect from the other teams and the fans. The coaching is sub-par at best and is a laughing-stock to all the players and fans that have held this team so dear to their hearts with this franchise in the 90's.
It is an embarrasement to everyone who supports this team, when Ralph rewards Jauron with a contract.....that was never earned or deserved. It's a slap in the face to all of us, who buy the tickets to the games and spend our hard-earned money on the merchandise.
I for one, am not impressed with this organization right now.....or the inadeguate coaching that gets shuffled onto the players, to mask the front office short-comings.
When is enough....truly enough?
I have spoken.