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DraftBoy
01-17-2009, 02:25 PM
With the College Football Season barely over and with the Underclassmen all declared and in, its time for me to update my rankings. These rankings are the last ones you will see from me before the draft guide is released which will be my final rankings. Please enjoy and feel free to comment!

Quarterback:
1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia*
2. Mark Sanchez, USC*
3. Josh Freeman, Kansas State*
4. Nate Davis, Ball State*
5. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech
6. Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State
7. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
8. Willie Tuitama, Arizona
9. Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
10. Tom Brandstater, Fresno State
11. Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State
12. Chase Daniel, Missouri
13. Tyler Lorenzen, Conneticut
14. Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas
15. Pat White, West Virginia
16. Drew Willy, Buffalo
17. Jason Boltus, Hartwick
18. Billy Malone, Abilene Christian
19. Brian Johnson, Utah
20. Mike Teel, Rutgers
21.Cullen Harper, Clemson
22. Curtis Painter, Purdue
23. John Parker Wilson, Alabama
24. Joe Ganz, Nebraska
25. Brian Hoyer, Michigan State
26. Stephen McGee, Texas A&M
27. CJ Bacher, Northwestern
28. Bobby Reid, Texas Southern
29. Chris Reisert, Ohio Dominican
30. Keith Null, West Texas A&M
31. David Johnson, Tulsa
32. Zach Miller, Nebraska Omaha
33. Chase Clement, Rice
34. Todd Boeckman, Ohio State
35. Nate Longshore, California

Running Backs-
1. Chris Wells, Ohio State*
2. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia*
3. Shonn Greene, Iowa*
4. Glenn Coffee, Alabama*
5. LeSean McCoy, Pitt*
6. Javon Ringer, Michigan State
7. Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon
8. James Davis, Clemson
9. Donald Brown, UCONN*
10. Arian Foster, Tennessee
11. P.J. Hill, Wisconsin *
12. Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
13. Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern
14. Ian Johnson, Boise State
15. Devin Moore, Wyoming
16. Tyrell Fenoy, ULL
17. Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico
18. Kory Sheets, Purdue
19. Andre Brown, NC State
20. Antone Smith, FSU
21. Branden Ore, West Liberty State
22. Shun White, Navy
23. Tarrion Adams, Tulsa
24. Gantrell Johnson III, Colorado St
25. Mike Goodson, Texas A&M *
26. Marcus Thigpen, Indiana
27. Rashad Jennings, Liberty
28. Josh Vaughn, Richmond
29 Aaron Brown, TCU
30. Shannon Woods, Texas Tech
31. Curtis Brinkley, Syracuse
32. Mike McLeod, Yale
33. Herb Donaldsen, Western Illinois
34. Javarris Williams, Tennessee State
35. Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa
36. Tyler Roehl, North Dakota St
37. Cedric Peerman, Virginia
38. Mike Davis, South Carolina
39. Brad Lester, Auburn
40. Keegan Herring, Arizona State

Fullbacks:
1. Brannan Southerland, Georgia
2. Conredge Coolidge, Pittsburgh
3. Eric Kettani, Navy
4. Brock Bolen, Louisville
5. Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse
6. Zeek Zacharie, Louisiana-Monroe
7. Fui Vakapuna, BYU
8. Chris Pressley, Wisconsin
9. Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M
10. Dan Lawlor, Penn State
11. Eddie Williams, Idaho
12. Asaph Schwapp, Notre Dame
13. Conredge Collens, Pittsburgh
14. Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State
15. John Crone, Richmond
16. Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse
17. Andrew Mooney, Ohio
18. Will Tafoou, Cal
19. Matt Quillen, New Mexico
20. Cedirc Hill, South Florida

Wide Receivers:
1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech*
2. Jeremy Maclin, Missouri*
3. Kenny Britt, Rutgers*
4. Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina *
5. Joaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma
6. Percy Harvin, Florida*
7. Mike Thomas, Arizona
8. Jarett Dillard, Rice
9. Jamarko Simmons, Western Michigan
10. Jeremy Childs, Boise State*
11. Austin Collie, BYU*
12. Ramses Barden, Cal Poly-SLO
13. Aaron Kelly, Clemson
14. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*
15. Demetrius Byrd, LSU
16. Kenny McKinley, South Carolina
17. Derrick Williams, Penn State
18. Louis Murphy, Florida
19. Brandon Gibson, Washington State
20. Brandon Tate, UNC
21. Jaison Williams, Oregon
22. Brian Robiskie, Ohio State
23. Greg Carr, Florida State
24. Brennan Marion, Tulsa
25. Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers
26. Greg Orton, Purdue
27. Marko Mitchell, Nevada
28. Deon Butler, Penn State
29. Micheal Jones, Arizona State
30. Patrick Turner, USC
31. Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State
32. Brian Hartline, Ohio State*
33. Mohammad Massaquoi, Georgia
34. Jordan Norwood, Penn State
35. Quan Crosby, Texas
36. Derek Kinder, Pittsburgh
37. Kevin Ogletree, Virginia*
38. DJ Boldin, Wake Forest
39. Brandon McRae, Mississippi State
40. Dominick Goodman, Cincinnati
41. Nate Swift, Nebraska
42. Brooks Foster, UNC
43. George Smith, Vanderbilt
44. Isaiah Williams, Maryland
45. Jeremy Gilchrist, Hampton
46. Eron Riley, Duke
47. Darius Passmore, Marshall
48. Casey Fitzgerald, North Texas
49. Chris Williams, New Mexico State
50. Andy Brodell, Iowa

Tight Ends:
1. Chase Coffman, Missouri
2. Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State
3. James Casey, Rice
4. Jared Cook, South Carolina
5. Cornelius Ignram, Florida
6. Travis Beckum, Wisconsin
7. Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss
8. Darius Hill, Ball State
9. Ryan Purvis, Boston College
10. Brandon Ledbetter, Western Michigan
11. Mark Hafner, Houston
12. Bear Pascoe, Fresno State
13. Davon Drew, East Carolina
14. Dan Frischknecht, Washington State
15. Nick Walker, Alabama
16. Andrew Davie, Arkansas*
17. Kory Sperry, Colorado State
18. Tony Moeaki, Iowa
19.. John Phillips, Virginia
20. Dan Gronkowski, Maryland
21. Kevin Brock, Rutgers
22. Tripp Chandler, UGA
23. Eddie Williams, Idaho
24 Marquez Branson, Centeral Washington
25. Brian Manderville, Northeastern

Offensive Tackle:
1. Andre Smith, Alabama
2. Michael Oher, Ole Miss
3. Eugene Monroe, Virginia
4. Jason Smith, Baylor
5. Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma
6. Jamon Meredith, South Carolina
7. Max Unger, Oregon
8. Ryan Stanchek, West Virginia
9 Eben Britton, Arizona
10. George Bussey, Louisville
11. Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech
12. Alex Boone, Ohio State
13. Fenuki Tupou, Oregon
14. Dallas Reynolds, BYU
15. Sean Sester, Purdue
16. Garrett Reynolds, North Carolina
17. Xavier Fulton, Illinois
18. Augustus Parrish, Kent State
19. Scott Burley, Maryland
20. Sebastian Vollmer, Houston
21. Eric VandenHeuvel, Wisconsin
22. Dace Richardson, Iowa
23. Andrew Hartline, Central Michigan
24. Lydon Murtha, Nebraska
25. Allen Smith, Stanford
26. SirVincent Rogers, Houston
27. Reggie Youngblood, Miami
28. Kyle Howard, Wyoming
29. Mike Brown, Mississippi State
30. Yemi Babalola, Texas A&M
31. Travis Schneider, Texas A&M
32. Tyrone Byrd, Miami
33. Mike Tepper, California
34. Jon Brost, Northern Illinois
35. Jason Watkins, Florida
36. Troy Kropog, Tulane
37. Jose Valdez, Arkansas
38. Gerald Cardogan, Penn State
39. Dane Randolph, Maryland
40. William Beatty, Conneticut
41. Scott Burley, Maryland
42. Cameron Goldberg, Duke
43. Cornelius Lewis, Tennessee State
44. Ben Ossai, Washington
45. Brandon Pearce, Memphi

Offensive Guard:
1. George “Duke” Robinson, Oklahoma
2. Herman Johnson, LSU
3. Trevor Canfield, Cincinnati
4. Andy Levitre, Oregon State
5. Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin
6. Greg Isdaner, West Virginia*
7. Andy Kemp, Wisconsin
8. Anthony Parker, Tennessee
9. Ramon Foster, Tennessee
10. Cedric Dockery, Texas
11. Ray Feinga, BYU
12. Tyronne Green, Auburn
13. CJ Davis, Pittsburgh
14. Travis Bright, BYU
15. Brandon Walker, Oklahoma
16. Steve Rehring, Ohio State
17. Jeremy Perry, Oregon State
18. Jim Tartt, Florida
19. Mitch Petrus, Arkansas
20. Paul Fanaika, Arizona State
21. Alex Fletcher, Stanford
22. Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech
23. Ryan Schmidt, South Florida
24. Roger Allen, Missouri Western
25. Chris DeGeare, Wake Forest
26. Matt Slauson, Nebraska
27. Roland Martin, Michigan State
28. Curtis Crouch, N.C. State
29. Alex Mitchell, Michigan
30. Cole Popovich, Fresno State
31. Christian Johnson, Kentucky
32. Calvin Darity, UNC
33. Anthony Strauder, Mississippi State
34. Jamie Thomas, Maryland
35. Maurice Miller, Ole Miss
36. Jordan White-Frisbee, Washington
37. Nick Marshman, Virginia Tech
38. David Berken, Rice
39. Ryan Durland, Syracuse
40. Jeff Niedermier, Buffalo

Offensive Center:
1. Alex Mack, California
2. Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
3. A.Q Shipley, Penn State
4. Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
5. Eric Wood, Louisville
6. Jon Cooper, Oklahoma
7. Edwin Williams, Maryland
8. Brett Helms, LSU
9. Robby Felix, UTEP
10. Alex Fletcher, Stanford
11. Mike Dent, West Virginia
12. David Washington, Oklahoma State
13. Ryan McDonald, Illinois
14. Juan Garcia, Washington
15. Alex Derenthal, Temple
16. Blake Schlueter, TCU
17. Dominic Green, Nevada
18. Xavier Shannon, Florida International
19. Austin Wilkinson, Rice
20. Dumaka Atkins, Florida State

Defensive Ends:
1. Brian Orakpo, Texas
2. Tyson Jackson, LSU
3. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
4. Everette Brown, Florida State*
5. Connor Barwin, Cincinnati
6. Aaron Maybin, Penn State*
7. Paul Kruger, Utah*
8. Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin
9. Styker Sulak, Missouri
10. Larry English, Northern Illinois
11. Brandon Williams, Texas Tech*
12. Phillip Hunt, Houston
13 Maurice Evans, Penn State*
14. Tim Jamison, Michigan
15. Cody Brown, Connecticut
16. Nick Reed, Oregon
17. Mitch King, Iowa
18. Michael Bennett, Texas A&M
19. Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond
20. Jamaal Westerman, Rutgers
21. Pannel Egboh, Stanford
22. Brandon Swain, West Texas A&M
23. Kyle Moore, USC
24. Eric Moncur, Miami
25. Willie VanDeSteeg, Minnesota
26. Kirston Pittman, LSU
27. Will Davis, Illinois
28. Antwain Robinson, Arkansas
29. Ian Campbell, Kansas State
30.. Neefy Moffett, Florida State
31. Derek Walker, Illinois
32. Jameson Hartke, Ohio
33. Marcus Hands, East Carolina
34. Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
35. Mack Frost, Maryland
36. Ben Calderwood, Utah State
37. Jake Ratliff, Texas Tech
38. Jarius Wynn, UGA
39. Cyril Oblozor, Texas A&M
40. Jeremy Lomax, UGA

Defensive Tackle-
1. B.J. Raji, Boston College
2. Peria Jerry, Ole Miss
3. Sen’Derrick Marks, Auburn*
4. Vance Walker, Georgia Tech
5. Terrance Taylor, Michigan
6. Fili Moala, USC
7. Evander Hood, Missouri
8. Ron Brace, Boston College
9. Jarron Gilbert, San Jose State
10. John Gill, Northwestern
11. George Hypolite, Colorado
12. Myron Pryor, Kentucky
13. Chris Baker, Hampton*
14. Darrell Richard, Georgia Tech
15. Roy Miller, Texas
16. Dorrell Scott, Clemson
17. Brandon Nicolas, Colorado
18. Ricky Jean-Francois, LSU*
19. Alex Magee, Purdue
20. Terrill Byrd, Cincinnati
21. Jervonte Jackson, Florida Atlantic
22. Clinton McDonald, Memphis
23. Corvey Irvin, Georgia
24. Demonte Bolden, Tennessee
25. Marlon Favorite, LSU
26. Jason Chapman, Wisconsin
27. Nader Abdallah, Ohio State
28. Antonio Dixon, Miami
29. Ell Ash, Houston
30. John Faletoese, Cal Davis
31. Matt Kroul, Iowa
32. Rashaad Jackson, Clemson
33. Will Johnson, Michigan
34. Fevaea'i Ahmu, Washington State
35. Brigham Harwell, UCLA

Outside Linebacker:
1. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
2. Clint Sintim, UVA
3. Zach Follett, California
4. Clayton Mullins, Miami University
5. Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida
6. Brian Cushing, USC
7. DeAndre Levy, Wisconsin
8. Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
9. Clay Matthews, USC
10. Anthony Felder, California
11. Jonathan Casillas, Wisconsin
12. Anthony Heygood, Purdue
13. Solomon Elimimian, Hawaii
14. Motty Ivy, West Virginia
15. Russell Allen, San Diego State
16. Kaluka Maiava, USC
17. Corey Smith, Cincinnati
18. Bryant Haines, Ball State
19. Victor Butler, Oregon State
20. Mike Rivera, Kansas
21. Brian Toal, Boston College
22. Braxton Kelly, Kentucky
23. Joe Mortensen, Kansas
24. Steve Davis, Minnesota
25. Trey Covington, Maryland
26. Willie Williams, Louisville
27. John Hale, UCLA
28. Adam Leonard, Hawaii
29. Jason Williams, Western Carolina
30. Lee Robinson, Alcorn State

Inside Linebacker:
1. Rey Maualuga, USC
2. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
3. Gerald McRath, Southern Miss
4. Darnell Ellerbe, Georgia
5. Daniel Holtzclaw, Eastern Michigan
6. Darry Beckwith, LSU
7. Scott McKillop, Pitt
8. Micheal Tauiliili, Duke
9. Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
10. Worrell Williams, California
11. Jason Phillips, TCU
12. Derek Nicholson, Florida State
13. Joey Hudson, Miami University
14. Maurice Crum Jr, Notre Dame
15. Dave Philistin, Maryland
16. Joshua Mauga, Nevada
17. Rashad Bobino, Texas
18. Jon Copper, Virginia
19. Franz Joseph, FAU
20. Jeff Horinek, Colorado State
21. Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State
22. Robert Henson, TCU
23. Reed Williams, WVU
24. Stanley Armoux, Wake Forest
25. Ronnie Palmer, Arizona
26. Pat Maynor, Stanford
27. Greg Trent, Washington State
28. Antonio Appleby, Virginia
29. Brock Christopher, Missouri
30. Morris Wooten, Arizona State

Cornerback:
1. Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
2. Vontae Davis, Illinois*
3. D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt *
4. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest
5. Mike Mickens, Cincinnati
6. Sean Smith, Utah*
7. Darius Butler, Connecticut
8. Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina*
9. Asher Allen, Georgia*
10. Victor “Macho” Harris, Virginia Tech
11. Joe Burnett, UCF
12. DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati
13. Coye Frances, San Jose State
14. Domonique Johnson, Jackson St
15. Keenan Lewis, Oregon State
16. Donald Washington, Ohio State*
17. Jerraud Powers, Auburn*
18. Londen Fryar, Western Michigan
19. DeAndre Wright, New Mexico
20. Kevin Barnes, Maryland
21. Brandon Underwood, Cincinnati
22. Randy Phillips, Miami
23. Tony Carter, Florida State
24. Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford
25. Allen Langford, Wisconsin
26. Morgan Trent, Michigan
27. Mark Parson, Ohio
28. Christopher Owens, San Jose State
29. Lydell Sargeant, Penn State
30. Lendy Holmes, Oklahoma
31. Rod Council, Louisville
32. Brice McCain, Utah
33. Jahi Word Daniels, Georgia Tech
34. Brandon Hughes, Oregon State
35. Bruce Johnson, Miami

Free Safety:
1. William Moore, Missouri
2. Derek Pegues, Mississippi State
3. Rashad Johnson, Alabama
4. David Burton, Notre Dame
5. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan
6. Courtney Greene, Rutgers
7. Sherrod Martin, Troy
8. Curtis Taylor, LSU
9. Darcell McBath, Texas Tech
10. Chris Clemons, Clemson
11. Randy Phillips, Miami
12. Marcus McClinton, Kentucky
13. Will Dunbar, UAB
14. C.J. Spillman, Marshall
15. Troy Nolan, Arizona State
16. DreMail Hardin, Stillman
17. Jason Venson, UCF
18. Nate Ness, Arizona
19. Tony Davis, Penn State
20. PJ Mahone, Bowling Green

Strong Safety:
1. Michael Hamlin, Clemson
2. Patrick Chung, Oregon
3. Otis Wiley, Michigan State
4. Emmanuel Cook, South Carolina*
5. Tirmane Goddard, UNC
6. Nic Harris, Oklahoma
7. Kevin Ellison, USC
8. Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest
9. Reshard Langford, Vanderbilt
10. Jamarca Sanford, Ole Miss
11. Adrian Aye-Darko, Duke
12. Mesphin Forrester, Washington
13. Sha’reff Rashad, UCF
14. Lovon Ponder, Miami
15. Carlton Williams, South Florida
16. Uche Anyanwyu, Nevada
17. Brian Raines, Rice
18. CJ Byrd, UGA
19. D.J. Dykes, Colorado
20. Anthony Scirrotto, Penn State

Kicker:
1. Sam Swank, Wake Forest
2. Austin Starr, Indiana
3. Louis Sakoda, Utag
4. Jeff Wolfert, Missouri
5. Jose Martinez, UTEP
6. Ryan Bailey, Texas
7. Colt David, LSU
8. Mark Buchholz, Clemson
9. Dan Kelly, Hawaii
10. Conor Lee, Pitt

Punter:
1. Kevin Huber, Cincinnati
2. TJ Conley, Idaho
3. Chris Miller, Ball State
4. Ryan Succup, South Carolina
5. Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
6. Aaron Perez, UCLA
7. Pat McAfee, West Virginia
8. Jake Richardson, Miami (OH)
9. Justin Brantley, Texas A&M
10. Thomas Morstead, SMU

X-Era
01-18-2009, 05:49 PM
So, to me:

Ringers to low
LaFell is too high
Harvin is too low
Pettigrew is #1, Coffman or Cook are interchangeable, Casey is #4
Britton is too low
Still think Caldwell is above Shipley
Brown and Jackson should be swapped
Barwin is below Maybin
Marks is the top DT, Hood is probably 3 or 4

DraftBoy
01-18-2009, 06:03 PM
So, to me:

Ringers to low
LaFell is too high
Harvin is too low
Pettigrew is #1, Coffman or Cook are interchangeable, Casey is #4
Britton is too low
Still think Caldwell is above Shipley
Brown and Jackson should be swapped
Barwin is below Maybin
Marks is the top DT, Hood is probably 3 or 4


-Ringer is not a game breaking RB, all of the 5 ahead of him are, his production this year was awesome, but I don't see his game being as valuable to NFL scouts as Coffee's, Greene's, Wells's, Moreno's, or McCoy's.

-You would put LaFell behind Nicks, and Iglesias?

-Harvin is small, not a pure WR, a hybrid player, and often injured, I can't put him any higher over pure WR's

-Pettigrew had 0 TD catches this year in a pass happy offense, and has off the field issues, I see nothing he does better than Coffman, and I like Coffman's readiness better.

-Britton should of stayed in school, at the highest Id put him 7, but he's not on the same level as the 6 above that.

-Shipley is the 2nd best overall OC in the draft, Caldwell is similar to Mack where he excels in the Run blocking but needs works in Pass Blocking. Shipley does both exceptionally well.

-Jackson is the most polished DE in the draft and is the most NFL ready. I can't put Johnson or Brown ahead of him considering how raw both still are.

-Maybin made a huge mistake leaving early, he is the lightest DE going into the combine, has the least amount of experience and played in a bad pass protection conference. He needs to show a ton to scouts and to me, to warrant why he left early.

-Marks did nothing to distinguish himself like Raji and Jerry did for their teams respectively. Both of those guys took over games at times, Marks did not. He must shake his 'lazy' label at the combine by showing up at a good weight with a low fat %.

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 07:14 AM
Rankings adjusted for withdrawal of WR Brandon LaFell*, LSU from 09 NFL Draft. Added was WR Chris Williams, New Mexico State, also noticed that WR DJ Boldin, Wake Forest, was listed twice that was corrected and WR Jeremy Gilchrist, Hampton was added to the list.

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 07:19 AM
Removed WR Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati due to a misread on his class status, added WR Andy Brodell, Iowa.

yordad
01-19-2009, 08:24 AM
Where do you project Tyson Jackson in the draft?

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Late 1st round, early 2nd. The problem for us is that he is a better suited 3-4 DE rather than a 4-3 DE.

PECKERWOOD
01-19-2009, 10:54 AM
Jackson is probably too high.

Harrell and Bomar goto white castle.

I like that you have Coffman as the #1 TE, I agree.

McRath will be an OLB not ILB.

Sean Smith will be a SS not a CB but still a very intriguing prospect, nevertheless.

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 10:59 AM
Jackson is probably too high.

Harrell and Bomar goto white castle.

I like that you have Coffman as the #1 TE, I agree.

McRath will be an OLB not ILB.

Sean Smith will be a SS not a CB but still a very intriguing prospect, nevertheless.

-I disagree on Jackson and posted why above

-There is little doubt in my mind that Coffman is #1, I dont have it close either

-I think so too but he's versatile enough to play either and was perdominantly a ILB at Southern Miss

-I dont think thats going to happen actually. I think he sticks at CB.

Turbo.GUN.Hawk!
01-19-2009, 11:25 AM
So Sam Bradford is going to stay in college?

It would be nice if you specify whether or not this draft is strong or weak in every position. For example, I'm really interested in knowing how good this draft is talking about DT.

Ingtar33
01-19-2009, 11:47 AM
there is 1 very good DT in this draft... and 3 or 4 maybes.

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 11:50 AM
So Sam Bradford is going to stay in college?

It would be nice if you specify whether or not this draft is strong or weak in every position. For example, I'm really interested in knowing how good this draft is talking about DT.

Yes he is.

Strong Areas:
WR, CB, OL, 4-3 DE, 3-4 OLB, CB, ILB, TE, FS, SS, K, RS

Weak Areas:
3-4 DE, RB, QB, P, OLB

DT is kind iffy, some good talent up top, some decent guys mid way and late but nobody overly special and its not a stacked class like next years.

DraftBoy
01-19-2009, 11:51 AM
there is 1 very good DT in this draft... and 3 or 4 maybes.

Raji-Good

Jerry, Brace, Hood-Maybes ??

Id be interested to here your thoughts on all the rankings as a whole.

Raptor
01-19-2009, 01:30 PM
-I like Davis better than Freeman but I understand the ranking
-McCoy is better than Coffee
-If your just picking a WR I'd say Britt is better than Maclin but Maclin on returns cant be ignored
-Agree with the TE's
-I dont understand why they ranked Unger as a T? He hasnt played that position in 2 years and is the best Center in this draft
-Levitre is the best guard in the draft and I wouldnt go near Duke Robinson. He was playing so bad in the title game they actually pulled him for a couple series. He's one of the more overrated players in the draft
-I think Michael Johson should be moved down. Looks like tarzan plays like jane
-OLB Jason Williams plays at Western Illinois not Carolina and should be way farther up on that list
-Sean Smith future in the NFL is at S not CB

PECKERWOOD
01-19-2009, 02:19 PM
Raji-Good

Jerry, Brace, Hood-Maybes ??

Id be interested to here your thoughts on all the rankings as a whole.

Whatever happened to Marks? I actually think he would solidify our rotation and Raji playing next to Stroud would be unbelievable.

psubills62
01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
Why is Kory Sheets so low?

Gano isn't on your list of kickers? He was pretty accurate in college, even from long-distance.

Overall, pretty good. Love that you have Shipley as the #3 center....people seem to overlook him sometimes.

DraftBoy
01-21-2009, 07:29 AM
Whatever happened to Marks? I actually think he would solidify our rotation and Raji playing next to Stroud would be unbelievable.

Same issue with Sims last year, lazy, and lack of effort.

DraftBoy
01-21-2009, 07:30 AM
Why is Kory Sheets so low?

Gano isn't on your list of kickers? He was pretty accurate in college, even from long-distance.

Overall, pretty good. Love that you have Shipley as the #3 center....people seem to overlook him sometimes.

18 isnt that low with the RB's ahead of him. I dont see Sheets as ane every down back in the NFL so he can't be ranked much higher imo.

Gano will be on the final list he was an omission on my part.

I think Shipley is one of the best OC's in the class. People who underestimate him are going to pay for it.

TigerJ
01-25-2009, 09:11 PM
I noticed Tony Fiametta is both your fifth ranked and sixteenth ranked fullback, DB. You might want to fix that one.

FlyingDutchman
01-25-2009, 11:56 PM
-I think you have Nate Davis too low. Especially after his last 2 games. Hes been a great player for most of the year, but extremely turnover prone. The games he did well this year were against joke denfenses (maybe not N. Illinois) but for the most part his numbers were put up in a glorified junior college teams. I think Cantwell should be a little higher. Ill be honest, Im not sold on him, but some NFL scouts seem to be. I didnt like his lack of mobility this year, although he was hampered by injuries, but I just feel he is too slow for the NFL. However, everything im hearing is that scouts like his size and arm.

-I dont think Pat White makes an NFL team as a QB

-I agree with your thoughts on Ringer, but I think youre crazy for not having Donald Brown in your top 5

-I see youre still sticking to Unger as a tackle. I disagree. We'll have to wait and see

DraftBoy
01-26-2009, 07:36 AM
I noticed Tony Fiametta is both your fifth ranked and sixteenth ranked fullback, DB. You might want to fix that one.

Good find, Ill edit this evening.

DraftBoy
01-26-2009, 07:37 AM
-I think you have Nate Davis too low. Especially after his last 2 games. Hes been a great player for most of the year, but extremely turnover prone. The games he did well this year were against joke denfenses (maybe not N. Illinois) but for the most part his numbers were put up in a glorified junior college teams. I think Cantwell should be a little higher. Ill be honest, Im not sold on him, but some NFL scouts seem to be. I didnt like his lack of mobility this year, although he was hampered by injuries, but I just feel he is too slow for the NFL. However, everything im hearing is that scouts like his size and arm.

-I dont think Pat White makes an NFL team as a QB

-I agree with your thoughts on Ringer, but I think youre crazy for not having Donald Brown in your top 5

-I see youre still sticking to Unger as a tackle. I disagree. We'll have to wait and see

-Im confused did you mean to say you think Davis is too high?

-I agree but he is adamant about not switching so I won't rank him as a WR yet.

-Donald Brown isnt a top 5 RB, all the Jrs are better.

-Unger may start his career at OC but I feel a move to OT is inevitable. His skill set allows him to play better there and the money is at the OT spot not the OC.

psubills62
01-27-2009, 09:26 AM
18 isnt that low with the RB's ahead of him. I dont see Sheets as ane every down back in the NFL so he can't be ranked much higher imo.

Gano will be on the final list he was an omission on my part.

I think Shipley is one of the best OC's in the class. People who underestimate him are going to pay for it.

What round do you think Shipley will go in? I'd love to sign a veteran (like Birk or Brown) and pick him up later to develop him.

DraftBoy
01-27-2009, 10:54 AM
What round do you think Shipley will go in? I'd love to sign a veteran (like Birk or Brown) and pick him up later to develop him.

late 4th-early 5th

Wood emerging at the Senior Bowl knocks him down some. I still like him a lot though, I think we could land him in the 5th and he could be a steal.

psubills62
01-27-2009, 02:22 PM
late 4th-early 5th

Wood emerging at the Senior Bowl knocks him down some. I still like him a lot though, I think we could land him in the 5th and he could be a steal.

Yeah, I liked the look of Wood, but if the Bills wanted to address other positions earlier, I'd love to get Shipley late. I'm hoping he slips to the 5th, but if I were the Bills, I'd probably grab him in the 4th just in case.

PECKERWOOD
01-27-2009, 05:19 PM
I actually think that Rhett Bomar could be a steal in the 4th-5th round. Wasn't he supposed to play for Oklahoma but got cut because he accepted a bribe or something of that nature? He is clearly talented and he has made a name for himself once again at Sam Houston State. That's one QB that I wouldn't mind the Bills drafting.

FlyingDutchman
01-28-2009, 01:09 PM
-Im confused did you mean to say you think Davis is too high?

-I agree but he is adamant about not switching so I won't rank him as a WR yet.

-Donald Brown isnt a top 5 RB, all the Jrs are better.

-Unger may start his career at OC but I feel a move to OT is inevitable. His skill set allows him to play better there and the money is at the OT spot not the OC.

yeah meant davis is too high and cantwell too low. tellin ya, Brown is gonna surpirse you.

FlyingDutchman
03-26-2009, 03:25 PM
Still think Brown is the 9th ranked RB? Kiper has him 3rd and ive seen a few drafts where hes gone in late first to 2nd round

SABURZFAN
04-05-2009, 08:50 AM
is this list updated or the original from January? :idunno:

i know things change quickly.

DraftBoy
04-05-2009, 01:38 PM
is this list updated or the original from January? :idunno:

i know things change quickly.

Its from January, the updated list will be released when the Draft Guide comes out.

Mitchell55
04-05-2009, 08:15 PM
Its from January, the updated list will be released when the Draft Guide comes out.



Are you making it a week or 2 before the draft so we have time to look at it this time.

DraftBoy
04-05-2009, 08:19 PM
Are you making it a week or 2 before the draft so we have time to look at it this time.


It will be done before the draft thats all Im willing to say about it at this point. Maybe a week before, maybe a day before.

!Papacrunk!
04-10-2009, 05:47 PM
Draftboy

somewhat off the topic, but were you and co. going to be putting out another draft guide? Last year's was pretty darn good stuff

FlyingDutchman
04-23-2009, 03:19 PM
Donald Brown will be the 3rd RB taken, callin it

FlyingDutchman
04-23-2009, 03:20 PM
and i have a feeling, he'll be a steal in this draft

FlyingDutchman
08-06-2009, 07:27 PM
well, Brown was the 2nd RB taken

DraftBoy
08-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Yes he was and he was taken by the best team for his abilities.