Greer rosy on possible return to Buffalo

[ddaryl]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-810/Greer-rosy-on-possible-return-to-Buffalo.html



But Greer isn't necessarily interested in going up for bids.
"I definitely want to get something done with Buffalo," said Greer, who will turn 27 next week. "It's a spot that I have so much appreciation for. I appreciate the opportunity that they gave me.
"It's kind of weird to be in this situation, to have a choice. But at the end of the day, I know the community. I know my teammates. They're a spectacular group of guys, and it's a fun place to play."



I still think we can keep him on the roster at a decent price and have great depth at the DB postion with him in the fold.

[patmoran2006]

no way.
Spend his money elsewhere. Leodis is ready

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Read about this article carefully. I think Tim Graham hit the nail on the head with this comment:

With two young cornerbacks -- McKelvin and Reggie Corner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11348) -- theoretically ready to emerge, McGee could become expendable, especially since McKelvin is an electric kick returner himself.

If the Bills do sign Greer, then McGee is out of the door. I like McGee on this team, especially on his contract year. But you gotta admit that we have very capable people behind him for everything he does and his market value will never be higher and he can bring a valueable resource to this team in other needy area.

[ddaryl]

we need qualtiy depth, and I see no reason why greer can not be part of that Qualtiy... and what it would cost to replace him won't be too significant for what it will take to resign him.

CB's

McGee, Terrence (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Terrence-McGee/86165f42-18bb-4051-a106-5a88ba2ba18d)
McKelvin , Leodis (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Leodis-McKelvin%20/2e0b511d-6dc5-4cf3-978b-0b4a40f0d1bb)
Fox, Dustin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Dustin-Fox/62dc17f0-1f87-4b5d-a342-be20a6ddae3f)
Greer, Jabari (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Jabari-Greer/6a2e86fb-ee31-4682-8445-9cb09a114d28)
Corner, Reggie (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Reggie%20-Corner/a0fe97bf-57a3-4481-a6b2-a88b18236b2c)

CB's on IR
<TABLE jQuery1233164573733="757"><TBODY><TR class="loop-odd loop-last"><TD class=col-name>Youboty, Ashton (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Ashton-Youboty/5f1c6905-36b7-47d7-b4b0-809e335ac27a) </TD><TD class=col-position>CB</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Safties
Wilson, George (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/George-Wilson/8b42ec4a-aadb-43cf-be76-729d4d40eb01)
Simpson, Ko (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Ko-Simpson/85c703ad-efd7-40ce-b3c1-e2c2fb5bf3dd)
Scott, Bryan (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Bryan-Scott/b7683161-dafc-4398-b03d-0761ec6fdbac)
Whitner, Donte (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Donte-Whitner/e9a05bf2-0ea7-4ef4-9882-e6e7730540b3)
Wendling, John (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/John-Wendling/e2263fbd-23e0-4959-806d-474883d741ef)

I think letting Greer go if he can be resigned inexpensively is the typical Buffalo bills mistake that keeps us in mediocrity


if anythign resign Greer and trade Mcgee, who I felt is overrated at CB anyways

[OpIv37]

I like McGee, but the smartest thing to do right now for the future of this team is to re-sign Greer and trade McGee.

It won't happen, though. They'll let Greer walk and get nothing in return since he's a FA.

[Bills Juggernaut]

I like McGee, but the smartest thing to do right now for the future of this team is to re-sign Greer and trade McGee.

It won't happen, though. They'll let Greer walk and get nothing in return since he's a FA.

I was thinking the same thing.

But, even if we don't trade McGee (whom I very much like), we let him walk next year, and don't skip a beat with Greer and McLovin' our 2 top CB's for future. That way, we have two very good CB's locked up for at least three years after McGee leaves.

But it also all depends on how much of a home town discount Greer is willing to play for. If it really is a discount, sign him for the future post McGee. If he wants top CB money, let him walk and hope we can resign McGee to a decent deal or that Corner steps up to the plate.


The LAST thing I want to be doing is drafting a CB high in next year's draft to cover for McGee leaving!!!

[Pinkerton Security]

My hopes are:
-the Bills re-sign Greer and give McKelvin a little more time to mature, play nickel duty, etc.
- if they dont re-sign Greer, it is because they wish to use the money instead to upgrade at another position of need, largely LB (or re-sign Crow) or center

if we let Greer go and do nothing in FA, im gonna be upset.

[casdhf]

Sign Greer and let McGee walk. That gives Corner and McKelvin another year with 2 vets above them.

[Dujek]

The Bills can't afford to keep looking to the guys that are coming through, where we have experienced players at critical positions we have to lock them up. With that schedule next year we need all the help at CB we can get.

[Night Train]

I like the guy but he's been hurt a lot. Don't forget, he had to build himself up from 165 lbs. and his frame may not take the beating. No one is questioning his heart or effort.

[Pinkerton Security]

are people really that anxious to see mcgee leave? he is a pretty darn good corner, and at this point is still better than greer or mclovin.

[acehole]

Usually that is the standard line.

However he would be an asset to the bills if they could find a way to keep him.

Which means he will be a Dolphin.



http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-810/Greer-rosy-on-possible-return-to-Buffalo.html




I still think we can keep him on the roster at a decent price and have great depth at the DB postion with him in the fold.

[jimbohastle51]

honestly they will make there offer to greer and it will be a take it or leave it thing i am sure. and probably the same with mcgee, this team let nate clements walk, they didnt franchise him then trade him, they just let him play his days out and then sign an 80 million dollar deal (which obviously means a year earlier we could have gotten at least a 2nd for him bare minimum). i could honestly see a scenario where both greer and mcgee go unsigned. if they dont resign greer and mckelvin takes another step forward and corner is as solid as he was this past year they might just draft another corner and let mckelvin and corner start and let a couple rookies play behind them and just bring in vets for training camp then cut them, remember the bills do this all the time with corner, they phased out clements and winfield and no one really though they would just let BOTH walk without even really trying to keep them, and neither greer or mcgee are of there caliber (i believe winfield is in the pro bowl this year)

[Mahdi]

Interesting how the picture in the article is George Wilson not Jabari Greer....

[OpIv37]

are people really that anxious to see mcgee leave? he is a pretty darn good corner, and at this point is still better than greer or mclovin.

I don't think anyone really wants to see McGee leave. But the chances of keeping both McGee and Greer are slim to none.

So, that leaves two options: let Greer walk for nothing, or pay Greer and trade McGee and get something in return.

Since we're probably going to lose one of them anyway, most of us would like to get something in return. It's not that people actually want to get rid of McGee- we just don't want to lose one of our starting corners for nothing. It's the lesser of two evils.

[THATHURMANATOR]

we need qualtiy depth, and I see no reason why greer can not be part of that Qualtiy... and what it would cost to replace him won't be too significant for what it will take to resign him.

CB's

McGee, Terrence (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Terrence-McGee/86165f42-18bb-4051-a106-5a88ba2ba18d)
McKelvin , Leodis (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Leodis-McKelvin%20/2e0b511d-6dc5-4cf3-978b-0b4a40f0d1bb)
Fox, Dustin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Dustin-Fox/62dc17f0-1f87-4b5d-a342-be20a6ddae3f)
Greer, Jabari (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Jabari-Greer/6a2e86fb-ee31-4682-8445-9cb09a114d28)
Corner, Reggie (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Reggie%20-Corner/a0fe97bf-57a3-4481-a6b2-a88b18236b2c)

Safties
Wilson, George (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/George-Wilson/8b42ec4a-aadb-43cf-be76-729d4d40eb01)
Simpson, Ko (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Ko-Simpson/85c703ad-efd7-40ce-b3c1-e2c2fb5bf3dd)
Scott, Bryan (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Bryan-Scott/b7683161-dafc-4398-b03d-0761ec6fdbac)
Whitner, Donte (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Donte-Whitner/e9a05bf2-0ea7-4ef4-9882-e6e7730540b3)
Wendling, John (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/John-Wendling/e2263fbd-23e0-4959-806d-474883d741ef)

I think letting Greer go if he can be resigned inexpensively is the typical Buffalo bills mistake that keeps us in mediocrity


if anythign resign Greer and trade Mcgee, who I felt is overrated at CB anyways
You forgot Youboty

[Thurmal]

I think that McGee is wildly overrated and overpaid.

For my money, Greer is better than him RIGHT NOW.

[Mahdi]

IMO we should let Greer walk... McGee is a much better player and he can handle bigger receivers... Greer struggles when he faces big receivers especially on inside routes... there were a few games this year where he got picked on the whole game.

McGee with the young guys, Mckelvin, Youboty and Corner is a good mix. Then we can extend McGee for less than what we would pay Greer.

[jamze132]

I like McGee, but the smartest thing to do right now for the future of this team is to re-sign Greer and trade McGee.

It won't happen, though. They'll let Greer walk and get nothing in return since he's a FA.
Maybe we'll get a compensatory 7th :up:

[jamze132]

I would re-sign Greer and get rid of that Dustin Fox guy.

I would like to see McGee, Greer, McKelvin, and Corner battle it out for the top 3 slots. Competition brings out the best.

[Saratoga Slim]

I don't think anyone really wants to see McGee leave. But the chances of keeping both McGee and Greer are slim to none.

So, that leaves two options: let Greer walk for nothing, or pay Greer and trade McGee and get something in return.

Since we're probably going to lose one of them anyway, most of us would like to get something in return. It's not that people actually want to get rid of McGee- we just don't want to lose one of our starting corners for nothing. It's the lesser of two evils.

That's a good post. I'm inclined to agree.

I think Reggie Corner is the key to making it work without either Greer or McGee. If Corner can handle the nickel role, we'd probably be fine with Leodis/Corner/McGee or Greer as starters. Depth could very quickly become an issue though.

I'm interested to see how much of a hometown discount Greer is willing to take.

[DraftBoy]

Id resign Greer and deal McGee for 2009 Draft Picks. We need the help.

[shelby]

i'd prefer to keep McGee.

[yordad]

You forgot YoubotyI think everyone did.

[mchurchfie]

Greer is all rosey right now (standard company line) but when FA hits and he gets some money thrown at him he will be gone in a heartbeat so this all a moot point. Though I'm not a huge fan of McGee getting rid of him would be ridiculous. You can never have enough good CBs. Its not like we are stellar at that position anyways.

[ddaryl]

You forgot Youboty

I took the names off the active roster on the official Bills site... I should have looked up IR personel too...

thanks for the heads up and I fixed the original post

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Greer can negotiate with the Bills before the FA period starts - I guess that's why he is rosey about the Bills right now. If he does not sign before FA starts, you can forget about him. So the picture will be very clear to us pretty soon.

[Oaf]

Positive news on the Greer front is the best news I've heard this offseason. This guy has done nothing but produce with what he's been given. He's the kind of player this team needs. A pity we didn't give Kelsay's contract to him. I don't mind if we trade McGee or not, I just want to see greer resigned.

[bigbub2352]

This is something i completely agree with sign Greer long term and let McGee walk in 2010, Greer is the more cover CB than McGee, McGee gets beat alot and miss games every year,
Greer best days are ahead and at only 27 he is got 3-4 prime years left, Mcgee is turning 29 and took a beating form returning kicks, McKelvin is signed longterm
Why sign an aging Cb when u can let him walk next year and keep 2 Cbs in there prime
u still got youboty if healthy and Corner, sign a vet like Kiwakee Thomas to round it out in 2010 and we got a solid 5 CBs
Next year our scondary would look like this
McGee
Greer
McKelvin
Youboty
Corner
2010
Greer
Mckelvin
Resign Youboty if healthy
Corner
Vet
just as good
otherwise
we look to sign McGee on his last legs and have McKelvin, Youboty if healthy, Corner and Vet...
Just saying we need to make moves like this instead of letting our talent walk to other teams all the time and taking a CB in the 1st rd all the time

[madness]

We should try to keep both Greer and McGee at least until McKelvin can beat one of them out for a spot.

We finally have good depth and skill at a postion and people are already trying to unload it.

[BillsWin]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-810/Greer-rosy-on-possible-return-to-Buffalo.html




I still think we can keep him on the roster at a decent price and have great depth at the DB postion with him in the fold.

I like a McLovin backfield with McGee and McKelvin. But part of me likes how Greer has grown... McGee is under contrace for only a few more years, and after an injury last year is it really a good idea NOT to sign Greer if he wants to come back?

Greer is a player. He will thrive somewhere else if we don't grab him. Greer McKelvin is a good CB combo too!

[patmoran2006]

I acutally had wrote about my feelings on this, and I think McGee's contract will play a large part of the decision.

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Pat_Moran

[PECKERWOOD]

I like McGee, but the smartest thing to do right now for the future of this team is to re-sign Greer and trade McGee.

It won't happen, though. They'll let Greer walk and get nothing in return since he's a FA.

True, I agree with you on Greer. What's sad about McGee is that we will let him walk next year and then draft a CB out of OSU with our 1st pick! Haha! Sucks.

[Mitchell55]

I say resign him and trade McGee. McGee is nothing in my opinion but we could get a 3rd or possibly a 2nd for him, along with the trade down option then we could end up with 3 2nds.

[Stewie]

don't forget that next year we will have two transition/franchise designations. That means we can likely get something for McGee

[Buffalogic]

Jason Peters could really learn a little something from Greer..On topic now..

Why does everyone suddenly want to deal our corners, or let them just walk away? Again! Why jump the gun? There's no need to be hasty! Is it really a bad thing to have three very good corners on our team at once? Of course not!

We should re-sign Greer. We still have a year of McGee under contract and can franchise him after that. Either get instant value from him in a trade after he plays out the last year of his current deal or just keep him during that franchised year and have three more years of Greer, McGee, and Leodis, which would be amazing. This theory pretty much concedes McGee will be unattainable when he hits the FA market.

The only other possible way to do it is to try and resign Terrence to a nice long contract extension now. If that happens losing Greer to FA this year is less of a blow to the defensive backfield because ultimately McGee would be around long term.

[HHURRICANE]

no way.
Spend his money elsewhere. Leodis is ready

I don't want Greer. We don't need him. Wasted money i.e. Parrish.

[Mahdi]

I don't want Greer. We don't need him. Wasted money i.e. Parrish.
I like Greer but there was just too many games this year where he got dominated. He has a weakness that a lot of teams we played exploited. You cant pay a CB that cant make plays on inside routes.

Everyone seems to forget that its McGee that covers every team's best WR and even now he is our best man to man corner. Pair McGee up with McKelvin (the Irish Duo) and we have a very solid tandem of cover corners for the next 3 years at least. Not to mention McGee is one of the best tacklers and KR in the league playing CB.

[TigerJ]

I like McGee, but the smartest thing to do right now for the future of this team is to re-sign Greer and trade McGee.

It won't happen, though. They'll let Greer walk and get nothing in return since he's a FA.

I think you may be right. McGee will have excellent trade value. Signing Greer to a long term deal would secure the CB position for longer than keeping McGee.

[PECKERWOOD]

I would re-sign Greer and get rid of that Dustin Fox guy.

I would like to see McGee, Greer, McKelvin, and Corner battle it out for the top 3 slots. Competition brings out the best.

Bro, better yet... Resign Greer and let McGee walk next year.

[soapman]

no way.
Spend his money elsewhere. Leodis is ready

Shades of Losman/Bledsoe fiasco...

[jamze132]

Bro, better yet... Resign Greer and let McGee walk next year.
Why let him walk an get nothing in return? He could be traded is the FO decides they don't want him on the team.

[Mike]

It seems to me that Buffalo is in this type of predicament all too often. Whereas other teams can actually keep very talented players at the same position, Buffalo can not seem to afford the same thing even-thought they are so under the cap. Just look around the NFL, at all of the Superstars playing for the same team, how can they afford that when we can not even afford Greer and McGee?
Now that being said, the best decision is the keep Greer and trade McGee (due to depth). Hopefully, the Bills can sign or draft some real talent; however, if this Front Office had that ability it would already have bleed through. I have complete faith in the Bills´ inability to put together a good team. So, in the end it makes little difference if you pick 1st or 31st!

[ddaryl]

It seems to me that Buffalo is in this type of predicament all too often. Whereas other teams can actually keep very talented players at the same position, Buffalo can not seem to afford the same thing even-thought they are so under the cap. Just look around the NFL, at all of the Superstars playing for the same team, how can they afford that when we can not even afford Greer and McGee?


Hey Mike wlecome to the forums.. .good post !!!

Everything is different now, because as Ralph said to all of us... Playing games in Toronto will help us compete with the big market clubs... and big market clubs , as you sort of said , seem to be able to sign there own and not have to let much of their talent leave.. [/sarcasm]

seriously though... we were fed that line regarding Toronto games and the money it generates, its up to us to make a huge stink if Ralphie doens't cut the cash to crap **** ASAP