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The Bills have sold out 42 of their past 47 home games and 59 of 71 since 2000. That's impressive considering the team did not reach the playoffs during that span.
Yet our owner who somehow cried his way into the HOF claims how broke he is all the time and it is so hard for him to keep up with cost. Yet there it is 42 home games sold out. Between being ass raped for parking ($25) and buying a beer ($7) or a soda ($5) how can he sit there with a straight freaking face and say oh i'm so poor feel sorry for me.
Seeing that fans come out and buy tixs is nice but it's frustrating when you hire coaches like jauron because it's obvious he wants to keep as much money for his fam as he can. We must ensure that future generations of wilsons do not have to work. Again how did this guy get into the HOF? I know what he did in the 60's was important but what has happened since then?
Yet our owner who somehow cried his way into the HOF claims how broke he is all the time and it is so hard for him to keep up with cost. Yet there it is 42 home games sold out. Between being ass raped for parking ($25) and buying a beer ($7) or a soda ($5) how can he sit there with a straight freaking face and say oh i'm so poor feel sorry for me.
Seeing that fans come out and buy tixs is nice but it's frustrating when you hire coaches like jauron because it's obvious he wants to keep as much money for his fam as he can. We must ensure that future generations of wilsons do not have to work. Again how did this guy get into the HOF? I know what he did in the 60's was important but what has happened since then?
*Thanks shelby for the quote*
Not defending RW but have you been to NY, Tampa or Chicago for a game recently? Those prices are cheap compared to other cities. In 2004 we paid $9 for a Heiniken at Yankee Stadium...in 1997 I paid $6 for a beer at a TB/Sabres game in St. Pete. In 2003 I paid $5 for a pop at Wrigley. In 1986, it cost $12 to park at Foxboro (friends of a friend went to a game there). The Ralph is cheap compared to other stadiums.
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Yet our owner who somehow cried his way into the HOF claims how broke he is all the time and it is so hard for him to keep up with cost. Yet there it is 42 home games sold out. Between being ass raped for parking ($25) and buying a beer ($7) or a soda ($5) how can he sit there with a straight freaking face and say oh i'm so poor feel sorry for me.
Seeing that fans come out and buy tixs is nice but it's frustrating when you hire coaches like jauron because it's obvious he wants to keep as much money for his fam as he can. We must ensure that future generations of wilsons do not have to work. Again how did this guy get into the HOF? I know what he did in the 60's was important but what has happened since then?
*Thanks shelby for the quote*
I dont know why he didnt raise the ticket costs at all.
$10.00 x 72,000 = 720,000 x 8 = $5,760,000
Thats enough to pay the extra for a player like Suggs or Peppers
If Crow costs 4-5 mill per, another 3-4 takes you to Pepp (in cap hit)
Just keep shelling out yer hard-earned dollars for Ralphie.....if yer stupid enough to line Ralphs pockets, then yer stupid enough to pay 25 for parking and 7 dollars a beer.
Just keep shelling out yer hard-earned dollars for Ralphie.....if yer stupid enough to line Ralphs pockets, then yer stupid enough to pay 25 for parking and 7 dollars a beer.
Some of us enjoy Bills' football despite our ownership, and realize that tickets are comparatively cheap, and parking, concessions and merchandise are on a par with other stadiums.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
i agree completely and the pricing is absolutely comparable.....but the attitude of Ralph towards the fans is mind-numbing.
I agree, and I'm not happy with Ralph, either. But I love the atmosphere at Bills' games and like going so much that I just put Ralph out of my mind and enjoy the experience.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
I agree, and I'm not happy with Ralph, either. But I love the atmosphere at Bills' games and like going so much that I just put Ralph out of my mind and enjoy the experience.
I wasn't complaining about the prices i am complaining about the fact this guy gets millions upon millions of dollars and has the balls to sit and say how hard it is for him to run the team finacally. I know tickets are relativly cheap compared to other places. Which is also why i don't get why some people on this board want a new stadium built. All that will do is double or triple ticket prices.
Point is RW saying he is hard up for cash is a joke and when you see 42 home games sold out something funny is stirring the kool aid.
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I wasn't complaining about the prices i am complaining about the fact this guy gets millions upon millions of dollars and has the balls to sit and say how hard it is for him to run the team finacally. I know tickets are relativly cheap compared to other places. Which is also why i don't get why some people on this board want a new stadium built. All that will do is double or triple ticket prices.
Point is RW saying he is hard up for cash is a joke and when you see 42 home games sold out something funny is stirring the kool aid.
what you say would only be true if ticket sales were a large portion of the revenues from an NFL team but they aren't. There is no corporate base to sell luxury boxes in this market. Per capita income is low here and the population down which hurts television revenues and merchandising.
what you say would only be true if ticket sales were a large portion of the revenues from an NFL team but they aren't. There is no corporate base to sell luxury boxes in this market. Per capita income is low here and the population down which hurts television revenues and merchandising.
How many luxury boxes do the Bills typically sell out of how many they have?
Is that due to loyal fans or the fact that the Bills are the cheapest home game in all the NFL and the only show in town? I wouldn't call it loyalty, cause when the Bills played their one and only home game in Canada this year there was hardly a Bill fan to be found. Thanks in large part to the ticket prices. If RW charged the Bill fans the avg ticket price of the other teams around the league there wouldn't be any more sold out games.
How many luxury boxes do the Bills typically sell out of how many they have?
they do have trouble selling them. But it's not just that. It's also the price they can charge for them in the first place. I don't have the numbers handy here but they have been around and this is the gripe over the last 20 years from RW. Don't forget about the television revenues and merchandising also. You have to really look at the bottom line on everything to see the impact of being in a smaller market. Far too many fans look at a full stadium and assume that means revenues are being maximized and that is far from the case.
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