I should hopefully have some good info at 10am this morning.

[patmoran2006]

I'm set to have a conversation with a guy at 10am, and hopefully I'll be able to get some decent Bills info for everyone at that time.

Before mocking, just know this is the guy I talked to that tipped me off about Dockery on Wednesday night, and also tipped me off yesterday afternoon that the Bills would be interested immediately in Geoff Hangartner, who going by reports is indeed coming in for a visit today (Friday)

I want to find out if the Bills have reached out to any of the more prominent FA's since midnight. I'll do the best I can.

And for the record: I've been doing some work with Fox/AP this week-- which is why I've been able to acquire a little more inside info that I normally have.

(still think speculation is far more fun!)

[clumping platelets]

I need some cap info. Can any of your sources help?

[jmb1099]

anything is better than this... beginning to look like much of the same

[patmoran2006]

I need some cap info. Can any of your sources help?
Umm.. YOU are my cap source :)

Honestly, I don't know. I have never once talked to a source about the cap, to be perfectly honest I think there are very few people even inside the Bills that truly understand the cap. I can find out stuff like what the cap hit was for a cut, or stuff like that, but that's very likely it.

[SquishDaFish]

Cool look forward to it bro

[clumping platelets]

Umm.. YOU are my cap source :)

Honestly, I don't know. I have never once talked to a source about the cap, to be perfectly honest I think there are very few people even inside the Bills that truly understand the cap. I can find out stuff like what the cap hit was for a cut, or stuff like that, but that's very likely it.


I would be happy with just yearly cap numbers but anything helps. I specifically need Jake Long's contract details for my Miami cap page and McKelvin's deal :flowers:

[Coach Sal]

I would be happy with just yearly cap numbers but anything helps. I specifically need Jake Long's contract details for my Miami cap page and McKelvin's deal :flowers:
From Rotoworld:

LONG: 4/22/2008: Signed a five-year, $57.75 million contract. The deal includes $30 million guaranteed. Year six voided based on rookie-year playing time (Long started all 16 games). 2009: $3.75 million, 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.25 million, 2012: $6 million, 2013: $6.75 million (Voided Year), 2014: Free Agent

MCKELVIN: 7/26/2008: Signed a five-year, $19.4 million contract. The deal includes $12.6 million guaranteed. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $696,250, 2011: $1,007,500, 2012: $1,318,750, 2013: $1.075 million (Voidable Year), 2014: Free Agent

Don't know if that's what you're looking for.

[patmoran2006]

Yo, Sal.

When things quiet down a little bit, I gotta talk to you regarding a podcast on a website.

[Nighthawk]

I'm set to have a conversation with a guy at 10am, and hopefully I'll be able to get some decent Bills info for everyone at that time.

Before mocking, just know this is the guy I talked to that tipped me off about Dockery on Wednesday night, and also tipped me off yesterday afternoon that the Bills would be interested immediately in Geoff Hangartner, who going by reports is indeed coming in for a visit today (Friday)

I want to find out if the Bills have reached out to any of the more prominent FA's since midnight. I'll do the best I can.

And for the record: I've been doing some work with Fox/AP this week-- which is why I've been able to acquire a little more inside info that I normally have.

(still think speculation is far more fun!)

Good job, Pat! However, if you come back with anymore bad news, I'll have to stop reading the paper and web for a week!

[clumping platelets]

From Rotoworld:

LONG: 4/22/2008: Signed a five-year, $57.75 million contract. The deal includes $30 million guaranteed. Year six voided based on rookie-year playing time (Long started all 16 games). 2009: $3.75 million, 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.25 million, 2012: $6 million, 2013: $6.75 million (Voided Year), 2014: Free Agent

MCKELVIN: 7/26/2008: Signed a five-year, $19.4 million contract. The deal includes $12.6 million guaranteed. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $696,250, 2011: $1,007,500, 2012: $1,318,750, 2013: $1.075 million (Voidable Year), 2014: Free Agent

Don't know if that's what you're looking for.


Thanks Sal but that's what I already have. I really need a breakdown of the guaranteed money :flowers:

[Coach Sal]

I would be happy with just yearly cap numbers but anything helps. I specifically need Jake Long's contract details for my Miami cap page and McKelvin's deal :flowers:

Don't know if this helps, either. I'm sure you probably found this, as well. But at least it shows the difference between the "signing" and "other" bonuses. But the numbers are from their rookie years:

2008 numbers, from USAToday:
LONG
Base $295,000
Signing Bonus $0
Other Bonuses: $5,930,000
Total Salary: $6,225,000
Cap Value: $3,000,000

McKELVIN
Base $295,000
Signing Bonus $3,000,000
Other Bonuses: $3,593,750
Total Salary: $6,888,750
Cap Value: $1,745,000

[Coach Sal]

Yo, Sal.

When things quiet down a little bit, I gotta talk to you regarding a podcast on a website.

No prob.

Hold off til after the NCAA Tourney if you could. My schedule's pretty packed from now through then. I'll be able to talk and help more after that.

[clumping platelets]

Don't know if this helps, either. I'm sure you probably found this, as well. But at least it shows the difference between the "signing" and "other" bonuses. But the numbers are from their rookie years:

2008 numbers, from USAToday:
LONG
Base $295,000
Signing Bonus $0
Other Bonuses: $5,930,000
Total Salary: $6,225,000
Cap Value: $3,000,000

McKELVIN
Base $295,000
Signing Bonus $3,000,000
Other Bonuses: $3,593,750
Total Salary: $6,888,750
Cap Value: $1,745,000


I have that as well :ontome:

[yordad]

I love you guys. Ahem, in a manly way.