MY Final Coles Update Of the Evening.

[patmoran2006]

This is my final (likely anyway) L. Coles update for the day.

7:20pm: The only thing I can tell you at this time that is 100% certain, is that the MIami Dolphins are not even interested in signing him. I have a source I trust greatly, who has a source at the Palm Beach Post that he considers extremely reliable. So any reports you have read about him being linked to Miami is inaccurate. He's not going to be a Dolphin.

My thinking based on reports and some information is that Coles is mulling over a Bills offer, possibly waiting to see if another team calls with another offer, and though it was reported Coles decision would be today, it will likely drag into tomorrow.

At this point, I would be extremely surprised if he's not a Buffalo Bill by this time tomorrow. In fact, Im going to go ahead and officially predict he's having a press conference here by Monday afternoon. If I'm wrong, It won't be the first time.. But I am now VERY confident he's going to be a Bill- more than any other time since FA started.

[LtFinFan66]

John Clayton said we offered him:idunno:

[patmoran2006]

And yes, I know about the Bengals. I knew there was another team besides Miami, or his signing would've happened already.

[The Spaz]

Bring on Coles. I may not have agreed with your posts in the past but with these weekend updates I respect you a lot more. I love you man...lol.:up::beers:

[Forward_Lateral]

John Clayton said we offered him:idunno:

:rofl: since when is Clayton a reliable journalist?

[patmoran2006]

I know we have made Coles an offer.. That much I know.

If we were to end up losing out on a player that we're after to the freegin Bengals, then this franchise is in more trouble than any of give credit for, including myself.

[Mitchell55]

John Clayton said we offered him:idunno:


Everyone else announced Miami is out of contendership.

Clayton vs around 15 sources

[patmoran2006]

I know NOTHING about the Bengals or Clayton's report.

As a Bills fan, the only thing that would potentially worry me is that Coles isn't signed yet, and now I know for certain the Dolphins werent in the mix.

[LtFinFan66]

Everyone else announced Miami is out of contendership.

Clayton vs around 15 sourcesLink?

Only other source I heard was the NFLN

[superbills]

Clayton is a tool...

[Mitchell55]

Link?

Only other source I heard was the NFLN



Read the posts from the past few days. There has been alot of threads saying that Miami isnt interested.

[LtFinFan66]

None had any fact though...just opinion. Just saying

[Luisito23]

If we don't end up getting him, I'll personally will kick Pat's :moon:....:fattony:

[LtFinFan66]

:rofl:

[Tatonka]

i wish we could find out something about simmons. he is a much bigger FA based on our needs than Coles is.. IMHO.

[Tatonka]

i found this posted on the other board..lol.. people are now using you as a source.



Bills | Interested in acquiring Waters
Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800

Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source.

[patmoran2006]

Yeah.. KFFL picked up the story from scout.com I guess.

[patmoran2006]

i wish we could find out something about simmons. he is a much bigger FA based on our needs than Coles is.. IMHO.
No good reason to not get them both, assuming that we dont end up trading for Waters.

[Tatonka]

do we have legit interest in waters?

[Goobylal]

No good reason to not get them both, assuming that we dont end up trading for Waters.
Yeah, I think Waters is holding-up getting something done with Simmons.

[patmoran2006]

From what I've heard, its very legit.

[Tatonka]

any idea the type of compensation we would need? if a 2nd is good for cassell.. it would have to be less than that. im thinking a 4th or 5th?

[patmoran2006]

any idea the type of compensation we would need? if a 2nd is good for cassell.. it would have to be less than that. im thinking a 4th or 5th? Total speculation on my end, but I would think a deal similar to STroud's last yaer.. Maybe a 3rd and and a 5th,which I would jump on..

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Sucks that Pats entered the mix, can't say New England will offer him more than us and he would be a 3rd wideout but it is the freaking pats.

[SquishDaFish]

Where did you hear Pats are in mix for Coles?

[camelcowboy]

Where did you hear Pats are in mix for Coles?
Espn

[Ickybaluky]

Espn

Really?

I'd love it, mind you, because I really like Coles. He would be a big upgrade to Gaffney.

However, it would surprise me because they have bigger needs than 3rd WR.

[SquishDaFish]

I dont see the pats going after him

[The Spaz]

I haven't heard the Pats are interested?!

[SquishDaFish]

Nothing on ESPN.com

[psubills62]

None had any fact though...just opinion. Just saying

Just out of curiosity...where have you heard that Miami is actually interested? I mean, the only things I've heard connecting Coles to Miami is the fact that Coles is buddy-buddy with Pennington. Nothing I've seen has been anything more than speculation. And now there are more than enough reports saying Miami isn't interested in Coles.

[patmoran2006]

The Bengals are now in on Coles, per a report by nfldraftbible.com

<TABLE class=contentpaneopen width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=contenttitle vAlign=top><TD class=contentheading width="100%">NFL Insider: Cincy Makes Pitch To L.Coles </TD><TD class=buttonheading align=right width="100%">http://www.nfldraftbible.com/templates/gk_sportmaxum/images/pdf_button.png (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2200) </TD><TD class=buttonheading align=right width="100%">http://www.nfldraftbible.com/templates/gk_sportmaxum/images/printButton.png (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2200&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=111) </TD><TD class=buttonheading align=right width="100%">http://www.nfldraftbible.com/templates/gk_sportmaxum/images/emailButton.png (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=2200&itemid=111) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="70%" colSpan=2>Written by NFL Draft Bible </TD></TR><TR><TD class=createdate vAlign=top colSpan=2>Sunday, 01 March 2009 20:03 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2>The Cincinnati Bengals are the third team to express serious interest in wide receiver Laveranues Coles, the NFL Draft Bible reports. The inquiry comes as the Bengals anticipate losing T.J. Houshmandzadeh in free agency. Other teams in play include the Bills and Dolphins. Coles is expected to make a decision by Monday.
UPDATE: Brian Biggane, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Miami Dolphins likely will not pursue unrestricted free-agent WR Laveranues Coles (Jets) because they do not see Coles as the No. 1 receiver they are looking for, according to a league source.
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[patmoran2006]

THis would explain why Coles hasn't signed today with the BIlls, despite MIami not showing interest.

Man, if we lose guys we're after to the Bengals.. Not good

[methos4ever]

Mortensen was apparently saying it on tv - take that for what it's worth.

[madness]

Dolphins not interested in Coles (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-6-1/Dolphins-not-interested-in-Coles.html)
March 1, 2009 7:54 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham Laveranues Coles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2209) will not reunite with old friend Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2149) in South Florida.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3943750) the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) have no interest in Coles and told the receiver's agent as much shortly after they negotiated out of the final year of his contract with the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj).
Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post reported earlier Sunday the Dolphins wouldn't pursue Coles because he's not the type of receiver (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2009/03/01/source-dolphins-likely-to-pass-on-laveranues-coles/#more-1372) they were looking for.
Biggane on Friday held an exclusive interview with Pennington, who said he wasn't going to lobby (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/02/27/0227dolphins.html) the Dolphins to bring Coles aboard. In light of Mortensen's report, Pennington would have known when he spoke to Biggane the Dolphins were taking a pass.
Where does that leave Coles?
We know Coles visited the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) on Friday. Beyond that, it unknown what other visits he has lined up.
Coles would be a fine addition for the Bills, who for years have been searching for a No. 2 possession receiver to complement Lee Evans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5538) and help open up the offense.
The Bills drafted James Hardy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11275) with the 41st overall pick last year. Hardy had nine catches for 87 yards and two touchdowns before suffering a knee injury that required surgery in Week 15.
Coles has caught more than 80 passes four times and gained more than 1,000 yards three times. He had 70 catches for 850 yards and a team-high seven touchdowns last season.

[Raptor]

Yeah, I think Waters is holding-up getting something done with Simmons.


They should get both

Waters starting LG and let Butler and KS battle it out for the LG leaving the loser as good depth

[madness]

THis would explain why Coles hasn't signed today with the BIlls, despite MIami not showing interest.

Man, if we lose guys we're after to the Bengals.. Not good

I also remember reading right after his release the Jets did not rule out a return. If Coles has options to actually weigh, we can pretty much count out Buffalo unless he's going to get overpaid.

[HHURRICANE]

The good news is that we will be way under the cap!!

[patmoran2006]

Dolphins not interested in Coles (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-6-1/Dolphins-not-interested-in-Coles.html)
March 1, 2009 7:54 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham Laveranues Coles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2209) will not reunite with old friend Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2149) in South Florida.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3943750) the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) have no interest in Coles and told the receiver's agent as much shortly after they negotiated out of the final year of his contract with the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj).
Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post reported earlier Sunday the Dolphins wouldn't pursue Coles because he's not the type of receiver (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2009/03/01/source-dolphins-likely-to-pass-on-laveranues-coles/#more-1372) they were looking for.
Biggane on Friday held an exclusive interview with Pennington, who said he wasn't going to lobby (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/02/27/0227dolphins.html) the Dolphins to bring Coles aboard. In light of Mortensen's report, Pennington would have known when he spoke to Biggane the Dolphins were taking a pass.
Where does that leave Coles?
We know Coles visited the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) on Friday. Beyond that, it unknown what other visits he has lined up.
Coles would be a fine addition for the Bills, who for years have been searching for a No. 2 possession receiver to complement Lee Evans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5538) and help open up the offense.
The Bills drafted James Hardy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11275) with the 41st overall pick last year. Hardy had nine catches for 87 yards and two touchdowns before suffering a knee injury that required surgery in Week 15.
Coles has caught more than 80 passes four times and gained more than 1,000 yards three times. He had 70 catches for 850 yards and a team-high seven touchdowns last season.
This is 100% accurate; and Tim Graham is one source that I have NO PROBLEM saying publicly that I've used a lot this week.

[hydro]

Total speculation on my end, but I would think a deal similar to STroud's last yaer.. Maybe a 3rd and and a 5th,which I would jump on..

In a heart beat!!!!!

[Nighthawk]

This is 100% accurate; and Tim Graham is one source that I have NO PROBLEM saying publicly that I've used a lot this week.

Anything new on the situation or are we not going to hear anything until tomorrow?

[patmoran2006]

I dont know.
I've been unable to track down where Coles,or his agent (Roosevelt Barnes) even are right now.

[madness]

This is 100% accurate; and Tim Graham is one source that I have NO PROBLEM saying publicly that I've used a lot this week.

Tim Graham is the man and does his homework. (I usually check his stuff to confirm your stuff. :up:)

I check his blog regularly and look forward to his Friday afternoon chats. He's one of the few that actually bring credibility to ESPN.

[jpdex12]

Dolphins not interested in Coles (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-18/Dolphins-not-interested-in-Coles.html) http://assets.espn.go.com/profile/i/trans/icon_report_hi.gif (http://myespn.go.com/profile/violation?ou=nflnationadmin&at=7&vid=1235955814027)
March 1, 2009 8:03 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham Laveranues Coles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2209) will not reunite with old friend Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2149) in South Florida.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3943750) the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) have no interest in Coles and told the receiver's agent as much shortly after they negotiated out of the final year of his contract with the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj).
Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post reported earlier Sunday the Dolphins wouldn't pursue Coles because he's not the type of receiver (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2009/03/01/source-dolphins-likely-to-pass-on-laveranues-coles/#more-1372) they were looking for.
Biggane on Friday held an exclusive interview with Pennington, who said he wasn't going to lobby (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/02/27/0227dolphins.html) the Dolphins to bring Coles aboard. In light of Mortensen's report, Pennington would have known when he spoke to Biggane the Dolphins were taking a pass.
Where does that leave Coles?
We know Coles visited the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) on Friday. Beyond that, it unknown what other visits he has lined up.
Coles would be a fine addition for the Bills, who for years have been searching for a No. 2 possession receiver to complement Lee Evans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5538) and help open up the offense.

[Ickybaluky]

From Dave Hutchinson of the New Jersey Star Ledger (http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/03/safety_jim_leonard_visits_new.html):


On another front, I talked to the Laveranues Coles camp Sunday and the Bills want him badly. They want to team him with the speedy Lee Evans. Coles would be the intermediate receiver while Evans would be the deep threat. Makes sense.

Coles isn't in a hurry to make a decision, however, and will see what else develops. Surprisingly, I was told that the Dolphins and Browns are not in the running, as many have speculated. Both teams are pretty much set at receiver.

[Nighthawk]

From Dave Hutchinson of the New Jersey Star Ledger (http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/03/safety_jim_leonard_visits_new.html):

Hopefully he ends up a Bill. They need to close this deal...tomorrow!

[patmoran2006]

From Dave Hutchinson of the New Jersey Star Ledger (http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/03/safety_jim_leonard_visits_new.html):
Great find.

[patmoran2006]

Tim Graham is the man and does his homework. (I usually check his stuff to confirm your stuff. :up:)

I check his blog regularly and look forward to his Friday afternoon chats. He's one of the few that actually bring credibility to ESPN.
I know some writers, not a ton of em, but Tim is one of them... And while I dont know the credibility of a lot of writers, I will vouch as Tim being very well connected and responsible with reporting. He's as credible as any writer out there IMO, and especially regarding the Bills.

Put it this way, I'd believe a report from Graham a million times quicker than one from Carruci.

[ct bills fan]

That is a great find NE39 - thanks.

[Slim]

Bills | Have made offer to Coles
Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:08:40 -0800

Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills have made a contract offer to unrestricted free-agent WR Laveranues Coles (Jets). Terms of the offer are not known. Coles is expected to make a decision Monday, March 2.


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Bills | Negotiating extension with Peters
Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:06:26 -0800

Allen Wilson, of The Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills have exchanged contract extension proposals with OT Jason Peters.


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Nothing we didn't already know. But good news none the less.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Yep, our very own patmoran is the source LOL.

[Slim]

With all these Peters reports, its only a matter of time when it gets done. Great move to lock him up.

[Mahdi]

With all these Peters reports, its only a matter of time when it gets done. Great move to lock him up.
Sweet. Now lets get him some help at LG.

[Goobylal]

With all these Peters reports, its only a matter of time when it gets done. Great move to lock him up.
It would have been a better and cheaper move to do it LAST year. That way he wouldn't have missed any practice time, had a cheaper contract, and would have dominated from the get-go and not worried about his contract.

[lmcshadow]

Am I in the twighlight zone, looks like the Bills are ?????doing something positive for the team?

[im8th2buffalo]

It will really look good to other Free Agents who come in to see that we take care of Peters.
I just hope Peters takes care of the Bills in return.

[patmoran2006]

I'm not the source.. I am the reporter.

Get it straight! LOL

[Slim]

I'm not the source.. I am the reporter.

Get it straight! LOL

Whatever.... Source Moran.

[Tatonka]

It would have been a better and cheaper move to do it LAST year. That way he wouldn't have missed any practice time, had a cheaper contract, and would have dominated from the get-go and not worried about his contract.

i really dont think it would have been cheaper.. he pretty much sucked last year.. they can definately hold that over his head. they also held their ground and made him show his fat lazy ass up to play.. and he knows he has 2 more years in buffalo so he better take the deal the bills offer as long as it is fair.

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Thanks for all of the reports that you have posted this weekend, Pat. Much appreciated!

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Hope this happens Water is an instant upgrade to our OL.

[jimbohastle51]

waters is twice what Doc was, for sure!

[Tatonka]

a 3rd and 5th is a too much if you ask me for a 32 year old guard.

i realize that he is absolutely an upgrade, but stroud is younger and in a position that has a lot higher value.

[DraftBoy]

Id do a 5th and a conditional 4th in 2010 based on PT.

[Tatonka]

it kinda sucks that it really feels like coles is only going to come here if it is his only option and he really doesnt want to.

i guess maybe the bills could have lowballed him so he wants to see if he can get more money, but it doesnt feel that way.. feels like he doesnt want to be here.

anyone else get that feeling?

[LifetimeBillsFan]

it kinda sucks that it really feels like coles is only going to come here if it is his only option and he really doesnt want to.

i guess maybe the bills could have lowballed him so he wants to see if he can get more money, but it doesnt feel that way.. feels like he doesnt want to be here.

anyone else get that feeling?

I don't think that is the deal at all.

From what has been reported over the past year in the NYC area papers, it seems that Coles has felt that he was being underpaid by the Jets and was worth more than the $ 6 million that he was due to make with them this coming season.

Even though he has lost a step, I think he truly believes that he is still a # 1 WR and thought that he would be able to do a lot better than what his contract with the Jets called for.

I don't think he ever considered the possibility that there wouldn't be a number of teams interested in him or that NFL clubs wouldn't be shelling out the kind of big bucks for WRs that they have in the past. I think he thought, for sure, that his association with Pennington would guarantee that Miami would be interested and, probably, that the Jets would also still be there as a worst-case scenario fallback for him.

I think that he is stunned that there isn't the interest out there for him that he thought that there would be and is hoping that, at the very least, he will be able to get even a bit more money than he walked away from with the Jets.

If the reports are correct that his agent is looking for a 3 year deal in the $ 18-20 million range, that would seem to indicate that, at best, he is just being offered the $ 6 million that he walked away from--maybe even less.

If he takes less than he walked away from, he and his agent are going to look pretty stupid. And, who wants to look stupid? No one. And, I'll bet that Coles doesn't want to look stupid either.

So, he's probably hoping that some team will step up and salvage his pride by offering him something more than what he was going to get from the Jets.

The Bills, of course, aren't going to give him more than they have to--they have other needs that they have to address this offseason and would be foolish to overpay for him if they don't have to. So they have made him an offer--whatever it might be--which looks to be more than anyone else has offered.

But, of course, Coles--not wanting to look stupid--is going to want to wait to see if any other team is willing to top that offer and maybe generate a bidding war for his services where he can come out of it with an even better deal than the Bills have on the table right now. And, apparently, Cincy, having lost Houshmandzadeh, has expressed some interest in him now.

But, of course, Coles also knows that he can't wait too long to make a decision because, if he does, the price and interest is only going to diminish from here on out. So, he is going to have to make a decision very soon.

I don't think that it is a case of Coles not wanting to go to the Bills specifically, but rather a case of him trying desperately to get the most money that he can in a situation where he and his agent badly mis-calculated just how much he might be able to command as a free agent.

Again, based on everything that was reported in the NYC area papers, the money is very important to Coles. And, I think that that, more than anything else, is what is behind his actions and hesitancy. I think he has to really be asking himself whether there is any chance that he might be able to get more than what the Bills are offering him (which would appear to be in the $ 6 million per season range that he walked away from) if he waits another day or two.

[DraftBoy]

it kinda sucks that it really feels like coles is only going to come here if it is his only option and he really doesnt want to.

i guess maybe the bills could have lowballed him so he wants to see if he can get more money, but it doesnt feel that way.. feels like he doesnt want to be here.

anyone else get that feeling?

I guess my question is where did Cincy come from? If Coles was as enamored with Buffalo as we've been led to believe. Why did he wait on Cincy? If its about money, ok fine I get that. But nothing Ive seen thus far had indicated another team outside of Miami, and then we find out Miami never wanted him, and then Cincy shows up out of the blue? Im assuming its because they feel like they will lose out on TJ.

[psubills62]

I don't think that is the deal at all.

From what has been reported over the past year in the NYC area papers, it seems that Coles has felt that he was being underpaid by the Jets and was worth more than the $ 6 million that he was due to make with them this coming season.

Even though he has lost a step, I think he truly believes that he is still a # 1 WR and thought that he would be able to do a lot better than what his contract with the Jets called for.

I don't think he ever considered the possibility that there wouldn't be a number of teams interested in him or that NFL clubs wouldn't be shelling out the kind of big bucks for WRs that they have in the past. I think he thought, for sure, that his association with Pennington would guarantee that Miami would be interested and, probably, that the Jets would also still be there as a worst-case scenario fallback for him.

I think that he is stunned that there isn't the interest out there for him that he thought that there would be and is hoping that, at the very least, he will be able to get even a bit more money than he walked away from with the Jets.

If the reports are correct that his agent is looking for a 3 year deal in the $ 18-20 million range, that would seem to indicate that, at best, he is just being offered the $ 6 million that he walked away from--maybe even less.

If he takes less than he walked away from, he and his agent are going to look pretty stupid. And, who wants to look stupid? No one. And, I'll bet that Coles doesn't want to look stupid either.

So, he's probably hoping that some team will step up and salvage his pride by offering him something more than what he was going to get from the Jets.

The Bills, of course, aren't going to give him more than they have to--they have other needs that they have to address this offseason and would be foolish to overpay for him if they don't have to. So they have made him an offer--whatever it might be--which looks to be more than anyone else has offered.

But, of course, Coles--not wanting to look stupid--is going to want to wait to see if any other team is willing to top that offer and maybe generate a bidding war for his services where he can come out of it with an even better deal than the Bills have on the table right now. And, apparently, Cincy, having lost Houshmandzadeh, has expressed some interest in him now.

But, of course, Coles also knows that he can't wait too long to make a decision because, if he does, the price and interest is only going to diminish from here on out. So, he is going to have to make a decision very soon.

I don't think that it is a case of Coles not wanting to go to the Bills specifically, but rather a case of him trying desperately to get the most money that he can in a situation where he and his agent badly mis-calculated just how much he might be able to command as a free agent.

Again, based on everything that was reported in the NYC area papers, the money is very important to Coles. And, I think that that, more than anything else, is what is behind his actions and hesitancy. I think he has to really be asking himself whether there is any chance that he might be able to get more than what the Bills are offering him (which would appear to be in the $ 6 million per season range that he walked away from) if he waits another day or two.

I think the money is important, but from everything I've read, the long-term deal is more important. Every article mentions that he wanted money, but he wanted a long-term deal even more, which is why he passed over 6 million.

I think he'd be willing to take 6 million per year(especially considering he hasn't drummed up too much of a market), but I'd bet he wants at LEAST 3 years on the contract, if not 4 or 5.

[jimbohastle51]

if he signs here i see him being here for at least 3 years. that will be enought time to really let evans and edwards to come into his own and by that time he'll be 12 years in the league and around 34 years old. but this is significant being he is only 31 and is still fast (though not a burner anymore), and you would be hard pressed to find a receiver with a better set of hands, you really have to give him his due there, the guy catches everything thrown to him.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Hey Pat anything new on this front or any other free agents in general?