Pats and Chiefs should be investigated for collusion

[Coach Sal]

There only two possible explanations for this.
1. Stupidity
2. Collusion

And we all know Belichick 'aint stupid.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-6-0/Why-would-Pats-turn-down-12th-pick-for-Cassel-.html

[Coach Sal]

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The "we'd rather have a 2nd round pick than #12 overall" defense has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard!

[SquishDaFish]

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They def had a deal way in advance

[yordad]

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No doubt.

[Ickybaluky]

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The "we'd rather have a 2nd round pick than #12 overall" defense has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard!

I guess you will have to point out to me exactly where the Pats said that.

This article explains it better:

LINK

The Pats already had an agreement with the other offer came. The idea they would turn down greater compensation is ludicrous.

[SquishDaFish]

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They had a deal with Pioli prob when Pioli left. Screw the Pats

[madness]

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I guess you will have to point out to me exactly where the Pats said that.

This article explains it better:

LINK

The Pats already had an agreement with the other offer came. The idea they would turn down greater compensation is ludicrous.

Either way, something definitely smells fishy.

Mort and I have exchanged a few e-mails on the subject. Here is how he broke down the proposed three-way deal:

This one defies logic, but a source I really trust tells me it's true: The Broncos were willing to offer their own first-round pick (12th overall) to the Patriots for Cassel. Obviously, it was conditional upon Cutler being traded and Tampa Bay was the most likely destination, the Bucs willing to part with their first- and third-round picks.
But Belichick never embraced a trade with the Broncos, even though it was a head-scratcher on the value part (second-rounder versus a first-rounder). It suggests two or three speculative thoughts:

1. Belichick has always valued second-round picks (he now has three) and didn't want to be stuck at No. 12 financially for whatever reason;
2. Belichick had an agreement with Pioli all along and wouldn't break his word;
3. Belichick isn't about to help another former assistant.

The Broncos sensed resistance all along, which is why they held the Bucs, Lions, Vikings, etc., at arm's length and allows McDaniels his plausible deniability on trading Cutler (and logic supports his denial).
However, despite intense efforts to keep this run at Cassel under wraps, enough damage has been done that Cutler may now be on the block.
The Broncos/Cutler aspect of the trade was reported by the Boston Globe. A Patriots' leak? Why? To mess with McDaniels?

[Nighthawk]

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Does this really surprise anybody? There definitely was some "old boys" dealing going on with that deal.

[Forward_Lateral]

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I don't understand how it's collusion. Aren't teams allowed to have trade talks whenever they want?

[Goobylal]

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Why does anyone care? I'm glad they got a 2nd rounder and not a 1st rounder. Although I'm pissed they were able to trade Cassel at all. I think he'll end up being another Scott Mitchell when all is said and done.

[TigerJ]

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Of course, from the prespective of the Bills, Bill Belichick with and extra #12 overall pick is much more onerous than a Bill Belichick with an extra second rounder. At the same time, if he were to get in trouble for that, so much the better.

[DraftBoy]

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Why should we get pissed off about this? The Pats took less for their players. Im happy that it happened this way.

[billogic99]

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Is anyone else not amazed at the number of times BB is involved with something that just doesn't seem to be above board?? It's like every 6 months or so we hear BB was involved with something different that makes people question him. BB has already had a lifetime of controversy in just the past 6 years. I'm sick of it.

[billogic99]

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Why should we get pissed off about this? The Pats took less for their players. Im happy that it happened this way.

It's not about what they took, it's about yet another controversy.

[Goobylal]

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Is anyone else not amazed at the number of times BB is involved with something that just doesn't seem to be above board?? It's like every 6 months or so we hear BB was involved with something different that makes people question him. BB has already had a lifetime of controversey in just the past 6 years. I'm sick of it.

The allegations of "extra frequencies" were shut-down right quick.