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  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    John McCargo

    so are we keeping this guy?? why is he still on the roster.
    "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe
  • Dr. Lecter
    Zero for Zero!
    • Mar 2003
    • 67930

    #2
    Re: John McCargo

    His cap hit is under 2 million and the Bills have no other #4 DT on the roster. There is no reason to cut him now. They might keep him and see if Kollar's replacement can get him to play up to his ability.
    Originally posted by mysticsoto
    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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    • Night Train
      Retired - On Several Levels
      • Jul 2005
      • 33117

      #3
      Re: John McCargo

      I agree with the Doc. I don't blame Tatonka for wondering why but now it's a numbers game.

      Go look at the depth chart and see how shorthanded we are across the board. It's frightening how many holes we have at starter & backup at various positions.

      Get busy, Brandon. This roster is painfully short.
      Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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      • Tatonka
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 21289

        #4
        Re: John McCargo

        i guess what concerns me is that we have not been linked with ANY defensive tackles so far in free agency. i would love to get a guy like robbins and see them hang on to mccargo to see if anyone will bite on a trade.

        or maybe we will get a miracle and like you said, kollars replacement can get him to play.

        he is really one of teh guys that shocked me last year.. after 2007 i had really high expectations because he played very well in spot duty.

        if we go into the draft, assuming that bj raji is not available, i would love to see a trade down to the low first and grab a guy like ziggy hood, who looks like a perfect fit for what we need.. there is a slight chance he may be there for our second pick, but unlikely now that he has done so well at the combine.
        "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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        • patmoran2006
          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
          • Dec 2005
          • 19840

          #5
          Re: John McCargo

          I know of nothing personally and have nothing informative, but I would agree with what Lecter said.

          He's a #4 DT on the roster who's relatively cheap in regard to the cap. No foul in keeping him around for now. I'd imagine if they eventually sign a DT in FA or draft one semi-early, then he could be gone.

          SUcks for McCargo because if he's not in the future plans he'd rather be cut now; but that's the way the NFL works. It's a business.

          I'd still rather see the Bills draft BJ Nagi if he's on the board over some of these tweener DE/LB that are supposedly Top 15 prospects.


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          • methos4ever
            Registered User
            • Apr 2004
            • 1557

            #6
            Re: John McCargo

            They let Mace go, so they'll probably look to sign/draft another Nose or 3Tech to be the 5th guy in the rotation.

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            • DraftBoy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 107452

              #7
              Re: John McCargo

              I wouldnt be opposed to brining in some healthy competition like a CJ Mosley (NYJ), Ellis Wyms (MIN), or Shaun Cody (DET).

              Mosley-6'2, 305, 25 years old
              17 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks-2008

              Shaun Cody-6'4, 310, 26 years old
              36 Tackles-2008

              Ellis Wyms-6'3, 290, 29 years old
              8 tackles, 2.5 Sacks, 1 FF
              COMING SOON...
              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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              • Tatonka
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 21289

                #8
                Re: John McCargo

                Ziggy Hood.
                "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107452

                  #9
                  Re: John McCargo

                  Originally posted by Tatonka
                  Ziggy Hood.
                  Not a bad option but he may go to high for us. His stock is moving up, he may be a Day 1 selection and Im not sure his talent warrants it.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • ddaryl
                    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 10714

                    #10
                    Re: John McCargo

                    Originally posted by Tatonka
                    so are we keeping this guy?? why is he still on the roster.
                    this is funny

                    we release Dockery to save a few bucks but create a HUGE hole

                    we keep McCargo who isn't even a starter and even though we tried to pawn his ass off on Indy last year, and we could upgrade with a few DT's on the market..

                    the Bills franchise is a puzzling complex

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                    • Tatonka
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21289

                      #11
                      Re: John McCargo

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy
                      Not a bad option but he may go to high for us. His stock is moving up, he may be a Day 1 selection and Im not sure his talent warrants it.
                      he is definately going in the 2nd round after his combine workout. i think there is a chance that he goes in the bottom of the 1st round.

                      i heard an interview with him on XM radio.. he definately came across as a polite and respectful guy who seemed to "get it". Plus he is the type of player that can penatrate and is extremely strong. i just like the guy more every time i hear something about him.
                      Last edited by Tatonka; 03-02-2009, 02:44 PM.
                      "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                      • circlethewagons
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 221

                        #12
                        Re: John McCargo

                        I know that Mccargo and bill kollar didn't get along - at least according to the Buffalo news. With a new D- line coach this year i wouldn't be surprised if he gets another chance, especially as pointed out above his cap number is relativly low. I still think he can develop into a nice rotation DT based on what i saw out of him two years ago, but its tough to tell

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                        • User Manuel
                          The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 2662

                          #13
                          Re: John McCargo

                          Why not hang onto him? Maybe Kollar was part of the problem. He has as much upside as any other free agent clown we would bring in anyways and we can always release him at camp.

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                          • bigbub2352
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 5386

                            #14
                            Re: John McCargo

                            Its a joke he is still on the roster
                            Igor Olshansky is out there
                            Mark Wright is out there
                            these would be upgrades to him
                            he is horrible and signed for 1st round money
                            makes no sense he is still a Bill
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                            • Bulldog
                              Top Dog
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2654

                              #15
                              Re: John McCargo

                              Originally posted by patmoran2006
                              I know of nothing personally and have nothing informative, but I would agree with what Lecter said.

                              He's a #4 DT on the roster who's relatively cheap in regard to the cap. No foul in keeping him around for now. I'd imagine if they eventually sign a DT in FA or draft one semi-early, then he could be gone.

                              SUcks for McCargo because if he's not in the future plans he'd rather be cut now; but that's the way the NFL works. It's a business.

                              I'd still rather see the Bills draft BJ Nagi if he's on the board over some of these tweener DE/LB that are supposedly Top 15 prospects.
                              Sucks that the Bills spent a first round draft pick on this slob and he's done nothing to earn more playing time. I feel worse for the Bills than I do for McCargo.
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