Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

[raphael120]

I think that it's about damn time that we get some production from our "awesome" drafts. It's time for Edwards, Poz, McKelvin, Whitner, Ko Simpson, and Chris Ellis (even to an extend McCargo if he's still here) to play some ****ing ball and show why they were drafted as high as they were.

I see DE's from other teams making impacts their first years and definitely in their 2nd year. You don't draft pure "situational" players in the 3rd round. Pick some potential playmakers. I see DE's all over the league in their 2nd year that make impacts and I just hope we see some kind of impact from Chris Ellis or it's YET ANOTHER wasted high round pick.

We have too many do nothing players come out of the draft and we're just going to keep spinning our wheels unless something changes. We can't rely on lucking out and getting a T.O. every year, one of these days we're going to have to *GASP* draft our own gamechanger.

[ddaryl]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

should or could ????

yes he should, but can he

but I agree, we drafted Ellis and we still need mega help at DE and I doubt he is anything beyond Kelsay or Denny

[justasportsfan]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

I think that it's about damn time that we get some production from our "awesome" drafts. It's time for Edwards, Poz, McKelvin, Whitner, Ko Simpson, and Chris Ellis (even to an extend McCargo if he's still here) to play some ****ing ball and show why they were drafted as high as they were.

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I agree. The problem is our conservative defensive approach. Granted that the ravens had way better talent than we did, they sent everyone to attack the qb. That's why Leonard made plays. As small as he is, he did more than Whitner did when Ryan sent him attacking. IN our system he was made to drop back and cover. There's only so much a safety with Flutie's size can do against taller wr's.

I expect Ryan to do the same with the jets D. They will be aggressive.

[DrGraves]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

blah who? chris ellis? i forgot this guy was on our team... our DE's blow. worst DE corp in the league. BY FAR.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

blah who? chris ellis? i forgot this guy was on our team... our DE's blow. worst DE corp in the league. BY FAR.

Sucks cuz I liked Ellis a lot and I haven't given up hope on him. I think the awful coaching of Kollar had a lot to do with his development as well as McCargo's. By the way, Cincy has way worst D-ends than us, as well as K.C., and Denver.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

Hard to tell if he can play when Dickey kept playing that bum Kelsay over him.

[bigbub2352]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

Ellis needs to get some playing time, with a team that had no rush Kollar sure didnt have his rotation rocking, Ellis needs to get bigger and stronger and stop wearing those stupid long white sleeves
lol

[ddaryl]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

Hard to tell if he can play when Dickey kept playing that bum Kelsay over him.

thats my issue with this team.. when the wheels were ocming off these rookies were never given the chance to take over... It's the mentality that a rookie should not play much, but that doesn't work when your vets play and poorly as they did.

Steve jackson anyone, another rookie that should have been given more time on the field last year

[User Manuel]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

He should get at least regular turns in the rotation at DE and contribute at least 3 sacks if put in pass rushing situation.

[OpIv37]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

That's part of this organization's problem. They actually tend to get decent value out of late-round and undrafted players, which is great if you actually hit on your early round picks. But the early round picks are anywhere from mediocre to terrible.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

Ellis needs to get some playing time, with a team that had no rush Kollar sure didnt have his rotation rocking, Ellis needs to get bigger and stronger and stop wearing those stupid long white sleeves
lol

speaking of Kollar

“I just thought it was a great opportunity to come down to be with an offense like they’ve got here," Kollar said. "It’s always the same thing, you always want to get to the playoffs and hopefully end up making it to the Super Bowl. And I thought this would be a great opportunity.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=5110

I guess he didn't think our offense was going anywhere either from a player or coching standpoint.

[OpIv37]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

uggh, it makes me sick to think about how this team has drafted in the first two rounds.

We gave up an extra pick to get Losman.
We gave up an extra pick to get McCargo.
We drafted Parrish in the 2nd round in a year when we had no first round (meaning he was our highest pick that year).
We spent the #8 overall pick on Whitner, who's very mediocre.
We spend 2nd's on Hardy and Poz, who have done nothing so far.
We spent a 1st on Lynch, who's great on the field but a pain in the ass off of it.

The only early round pick that has lived up to his draft status is Evans. I'll give Hardy and McKelvin the benefit of the doubt for now since they were rookies last year, but the drafting by this FO has been horrendous.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

uggh, it makes me sick to think about how this team has drafted in the first two rounds.

We gave up an extra pick to get Losman.
We gave up an extra pick to get McCargo.
We drafted Parrish in the 2nd round in a year when we had no first round (meaning he was our highest pick that year).
We spent the #8 overall pick on Whitner, who's very mediocre.
We spend 2nd's on Hardy and Poz, who have done nothing so far.
We spent a 1st on Lynch, who's great on the field but a pain in the ass off of it.

The only early round pick that has lived up to his draft status is Evans. I'll give Hardy and McKelvin the benefit of the doubt for now since they were rookies last year, but the drafting by this FO has been horrendous.

but we stole a pick in Leonard... oh wait.

[raphael120]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

but we stole a pick in Leonard... oh wait.

Yeah I'm glad we kept Ko Simpson and not Leonard.

Ever heard of **** my life? FML?

I'm starting to start to say **** my team. FMT

[methos4ever]

Re: Should Chris Ellis Be A Factor This Season?

Ellis was a pass rush specialist in college who was solely focusing on sacks to get paid and get to the NFL. He had little strength to hold the POA when he came out, so with an NFL caliber strength and conditioning program I'm sure he'll step up.