Peters and Roscoe Parrish.

[HHURRICANE]

This board has things backwards.

Peters is a talent at LT. He admitted making a mistake sitting out and it hurt his play. He still made the Pro Bowl and he has a chance at being the best LT in the league.

Peters loves Buffalo. He wants to play in Buffalo. The guy was pissed that he was making half of what Dockery was making. He looks even more justified because we cut the guy and gave him 20 million dollars for 2 years.

Read again. Dockery made 20 million dollars in 2 years!! So now we are *****ing abouting paying Peters 10-11 million a year???

Roscoe Parrish is an undersized WR that can't get off the line. Watch the tape. He spends half his time on his butt and that is one of the reasons he's not making plays on the offense.

He's a great punt returner. That's it. Punt returner only. With Mcklevin, Roscoe is now a luxury player that we could trade for real value.

Having 2 return specialist on one team is ridiculous considering the holes still open.

Punt returner has not helped this team get to a playoff. The o-line is one of the ways we get there.

Get your priorities straight!!

[Dr. Lecter]

I agree with your premise, but your comparison of Dockery's deal and what Peters appears to want is grossly misleading. Peters will get 25 or more in his first two years.

Sadly it sounds as if Peters wants 12 million per or more and the Bills are being stupid and only offering about 8.5 million per. Both sides need to wake up and sign a deal worth around 10 million per with 30-35 million guaranteed.

[mayotm]

I'm confused. Where are all the threads suggesting the Bills should keep Parrish over Peters? What does one player have to do with the other?

[HHURRICANE]

I'm confused. Where are all the threads suggesting the Bills should keep Parrish over Peters? What does one player have to do with the other?

Do I really need to pull every post and thread. There are more than enough to find on your own.

If you agree that Peters is the keeper and Parrish is expendable than there is no need for you to comment.

[HHURRICANE]

I'm confused. Where are all the threads suggesting the Bills should keep Parrish over Peters? What does one player have to do with the other?

Look at how many trade scenario threads there are already on Peters.

[Yasgur's Farm]

HH... Do you think JP should accept this hypothetical $11M/year contract offer?

5 year $55M
$12.25M bonus
$4.75M '09
$6.15M '10
$8M '11
$10.35M '12
$13.5M '13
=$17M guaranteed in '09

I'd even consider guaranteeing his '10 and '11 salaries as well... That's $31.15M guaranteed money.

But he's gonna have to earn his '12 and '13 salaries. Something he didn't do last season IMO.

[Dr. Lecter]

Look at how many trade scenario threads there are already on Peters.

But nobody is advocating keeping Parrish over Peters. This is like when you said nobody was commenting on the lack of a LG on this team. It simply is not true.

[Lefty2985]

WE CANT AFFORD NOT TO HAVE PETERS AND ON TOP OF IT HE LIKES BUFFALO AND PLAYING HERE. BE HONEST NOT THAT MANY STARS WANT TO PLAY HERE IN THE WEATHER!!!! SIGN HIM GET IT DONE.!

[Tatonka]

HH, your right.. peters made a mistake.. he held out last year and it hurt him.. after watching the tape, the bills decided he is not worth as much as he does.. so he ****ed himself.. and if he doesnt like it..well he can play under the current contract for 2 more years. he is lucky the bills are even open to redoing his deal.

parrish has nothing to do with peters. nothing.

[DraftBoy]

I'm confused was the intent of this thread to just state your opinion on Peters and Parrish? And if so then why not do that is of the other countless threads on the two of them.

[DraftBoy]

Peters is not lucky that the Bills are willing to work on his deal. They promised they would work on re-doing his deal to end his last holdout.

[HHURRICANE]

But nobody is advocating keeping Parrish over Peters. This is like when you said nobody was commenting on the lack of a LG on this team. It simply is not true.

Read this board and it's posts!!

Owens came in and there were several posts about "NE being concerned" and "do we have th best offense", etc. I like the Owens signing as long as there isn't a stop gap at RG or LG. Every day that goes by it looks more and more likely that it's Chambers and a rookie at RG or LG depending on where Butler goes. Look at how many posts were advocating a rookie at LG. That's insane.

Peters has already generated the "here we go again" threads. The guy wants
11 million dollars a year. So what? People act like LT's are a dime a dozen around here. They are not! Ask Arizona if they would like Peters?

Parrish is exciting so he get's a pass?

The fact that the o-line started to get addressed a few years ago was the first encouraging sign that the bills were serious about winning.

Now we are advocating a brand new left side?? Edwards will get killed if this happens. Guaranteed.

[Dr. Lecter]

I really don't understand a thing you said.

There have been a ton of threads on the LG situation. There were 3 the day you posted your thread about it. Many here do not want Peters gone, although there are some. He is asking for 12 million per. He can have 10.5 per and be happy about it.

And who is giving Parrish a free pass? He likely has little trade value so why discuss it? A 6th round pick does not get me excited.

And I agree that w/o Peters Edwards gets killed.

[jamze132]

Peters and Parrish are still not similar...

[Dr. Lecter]

I think I will start a thread about how people want to get rid of Peters and keep Bruce Hall.

[HHURRICANE]

Peters and Parrish are still not similar...

They have been both menitioned in trades and both have been debated as tradeable or not.

Peters should not be traded where Parrish should be traded. That's the argument.

Peters is worth over paying for. Nobody is complaining that we overpaid for Owens even though we did. Why? Because for an extra few million he makes the team better.

Peters is worth 11.5 million a year. The 3 million a year we save not signing him gets us what?

The best LT in the draft is going to cost what $$$ amount?

[jamze132]

They have been both menitioned in trades and both have been debated as tradeable or not.

Peters should not be traded where Parrish should be traded. That's the argument.

Peters is worth over paying for. Nobody is complaining that we overpaid for Owens even though we did. Why? Because for an extra few million he makes the team better.

Peters is worth 11.5 million a year. The 3 million a year we save not signing him gets us what?

The best LT in the draft is going to cost what $$$ amount?
$6.5M is overpaying for TO? Maybe if it was the Giants, Patriots, or Steelers. Not one of the worst teams currently in the NFL. Buffalo needed something to spark the fanbase and this is exactly what the TO signing has done.


I still don't see the coloration between Peters and Parrish except that both their names start with P and both have two vowels.

[Philagape]

Peters and Parrish are discussed in completely different contexts, and are in way different pay scales. No linkage whatsoever.
Football teams are big teams. Not everything is related.

[HHURRICANE]

$6.5M is overpaying for TO? Maybe if it was the Giants, Patriots, or Steelers. Not one of the worst teams currently in the NFL. Buffalo needed something to spark the fanbase and this is exactly what the TO signing has done.


I still don't see the coloration between Peters and Parrish except that both their names start with P and both have two vowels.

Both have been brought as tradeable. What are you missing?

Seems that Yobouty, Peters, and Parrish are the only reasonable trade prospects so that's the relevance.

[TacklingDummy]

And I agree that w/o Peters Edwards gets killed.

Game film and stats. would make your opinion false.

[TacklingDummy]

Both have been brought as tradeable. What are you missing?

The difference with Peters and Parrish is, Peters will bring us value in a trade, Parrish would bring us nothing.

[TacklingDummy]

They promised they would work on re-doing his deal to end his last holdout. They didn't promise to overpay him though.

[DraftBoy]

Game film and stats. would make your opinion false.

No they don't unless you have film of Trent Edwards going a whole season under OC without Jason Peters as his LT. Can you produce this magical footage?

[DraftBoy]

They didn't promise to overpay him though.
Still inference issues...

I didnt say overpay him, I said they promised to work towards redoing his deal. I dont see 8.5 being a fair offer and they are farther off from the 10-10.5 I think the deal needs to be at than Peters is with his demands.