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  • Prov401
    President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
    • Aug 2008
    • 1651

    Buffalo Needs..

    A pass rush, we need a pass rush, we need a pass rush, we need a pass rush. I don't think it's an option in this draft, with the 11th pick, to aquire any other position but defensive end. Seriously. I am well aware of the LG, TE, OLB, and possibly C positions needing to be filled, but minus that one breakout year from Schobel, we have had a horrible pass rush since the Bruce days. I'm sick of watching us create the most beautiful pocket for a QB to step up into and deliver a strike all day long. Pitt, NYG, Indy, Pitt, NE, NE, TB, NE, Bal.. I can go on and on about the previous Superbowl winners, and every single one, especially the recent teams, have all gotten to the QB, and have all had feared pass rushing attacks. Personally I hate our cover 2 defense, and to me all it is, is a 'we will let you get your 6 yard gains, but you aren't beating us deep', defense. But if we are going to keep the cover 2, then we need pass rushing. Right now, especially if we lock up Peters, I think a tight end in the 2nd round, would tottally solidify our offense (barring Edwards staying healthy). But without a pass rush, we are going to look at another 2002. 30pts a game, giving up 31.
  • ddaryl
    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
    • Jan 2005
    • 10714

    #2
    Re: Buffalo Needs..

    most of us agree, but the options for a DE @11 are limited.

    many of the top DE's are OLB's and others are not great pass rushers.

    I hope we pick up a top DE, but our best option might be to trade down gather a pick or 2 and grab the DE we are targeting...

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    • yordad
      Registered User
      • Dec 2007
      • 11867

      #3
      Re: Buffalo Needs..

      If Orakpo isn't there, you try to trade down. IMO, not enough seperates the #2 rookie DE from the #8. None of the plan Bs are likely to be an immediate force though.
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      • HHURRICANE
        Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 15490

        #4
        Re: Buffalo Needs..

        I think DE is the number one priority so I agree with your thread. However, I also agree that we need a guy that is an impact player and has the ability to be a sack master. I'm not sure that he'll be there at #11.

        Our FO sucks.

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        • HAMMER
          I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
          • Jul 2003
          • 8132

          #5
          Re: Buffalo Needs..

          It takes two to tango when it comes to trading down, it isn't as easy as people think.

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          • Pinkerton Security
            Pinkerton's son
            • Feb 2006
            • 6003

            #6
            Re: Buffalo Needs..

            Originally posted by HHURRICANE
            I think DE is the number one priority so I agree with your thread. However, I also agree that we need a guy that is an impact player and has the ability to be a sack master. I'm not sure that he'll be there at #11.

            Our FO sucks.
            they suck because there's not going to be an impact DE available at 11?

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            • jdbillsfan
              Registered User
              • Oct 2002
              • 1071

              #7
              Re: Buffalo Needs..

              Raji would help with the pass rush.

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              • psubills62
                Legendary Zoner
                • Sep 2008
                • 11295

                #8
                Re: Buffalo Needs..

                Originally posted by TE2Hard-E81
                A pass rush, we need a pass rush, we need a pass rush, we need a pass rush. I don't think it's an option in this draft, with the 11th pick, to aquire any other position but defensive end. Seriously. I am well aware of the LG, TE, OLB, and possibly C positions needing to be filled, but minus that one breakout year from Schobel, we have had a horrible pass rush since the Bruce days. I'm sick of watching us create the most beautiful pocket for a QB to step up into and deliver a strike all day long. Pitt, NYG, Indy, Pitt, NE, NE, TB, NE, Bal.. I can go on and on about the previous Superbowl winners, and every single one, especially the recent teams, have all gotten to the QB, and have all had feared pass rushing attacks. Personally I hate our cover 2 defense, and to me all it is, is a 'we will let you get your 6 yard gains, but you aren't beating us deep', defense. But if we are going to keep the cover 2, then we need pass rushing. Right now, especially if we lock up Peters, I think a tight end in the 2nd round, would tottally solidify our offense (barring Edwards staying healthy). But without a pass rush, we are going to look at another 2002. 30pts a game, giving up 31.
                There are good pass-rushing DE's later in the draft (2nd, 3rd rounds). I think if the Bills really want to help their pass rush and fill a need, it would be an option to take Cushing in the first.

                Granted, it would be a fair reach at 11. But he's a very good blitzing OLB. Taking a DE isn't the only way to improve pass rush. And as jdbillsfan said, Raji would also help our pass rush, but I really don't think he'll drop to us.
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                • bigbub2352
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 5386

                  #9
                  Re: Buffalo Needs..

                  any way u look at it we have to come out of this draft with a playmaker on D at 11, and a pass catching TE, and maybe a starter on the OLine, geez..... sign someone OBD
                  XTRA CRISPY XTRA SAUCEY

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                  • HHURRICANE
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15490

                    #10
                    Re: Buffalo Needs..

                    Originally posted by pinkdogg32
                    they suck because there's not going to be an impact DE available at 11?
                    Because after 3 years of rebuilding we have a thin roster and are still desperate for impact players.

                    That's why the FO sucks.

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                    • bigbub2352
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 5386

                      #11
                      Re: Buffalo Needs..

                      Cant go into the draft expecting to fill 4-5 needs u should be filling 2 at the most
                      this organization needs to get off there ass and fill some holes, unless TO was a signing to sell tickets nothing more... otherwise u dont sign someone of his caliber and age to a 1 yr deal and not go for broke
                      at the very least we should shore up LG/RG in FA

                      We need a pass rusher
                      We need a real DT next to Stroud
                      We need a play maker at SS
                      we need a playmaker at DE
                      We need a pass catching TE
                      We need a....
                      XTRA CRISPY XTRA SAUCEY

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                      • bflobarry
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 83

                        #12
                        Re: Buffalo Needs..

                        To those who say "trade down and get, say, two #2's"- Great teams are made up of impact #1's, much less so second/third rounders. Your stars win you games, not your ham 'n eggers. If no LDE is worth the #11 pick, then surely some pass rushing LOLB is.....But I couldn't agree more w/ the premise of the thread: Pass rush is need #1, and the whole team w/b better if we can get us some 'o Dat!

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                        • Mitchell55
                          only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5214

                          #13
                          Re: Buffalo Needs..

                          Pass rush- English in 2nd
                          LB- Digi, Ellison, Thomas, Bowen
                          C/G- Luigs in 3rd
                          TE- Hardy and Fine. Fine as blocker, Hardy like Winslow after gaining 20 lbs.
                          WR replacement for owens- Crabtree in 1st
                          S- Spillman in 5th
                          DT- Abdallah in 6th

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                          • Pinkerton Security
                            Pinkerton's son
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 6003

                            #14
                            Re: Buffalo Needs..

                            Originally posted by Mitchell59
                            Pass rush- English in 2nd
                            LB- Digi, Ellison, Thomas, Bowen
                            C/G- Luigs in 3rd
                            TE- Hardy and Fine. Fine as blocker, Hardy like Winslow after gaining 20 lbs.
                            WR replacement for owens- Crabtree in 1st
                            S- Spillman in 5th
                            DT- Abdallah in 6th
                            how are we going to get crabtree??? we'd have to trade up

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                            • Mitchell55
                              only another 1000 mocks due by tomorrow!
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5214

                              #15
                              Re: Buffalo Needs..

                              Originally posted by pinkdogg32
                              how are we going to get crabtree??? we'd have to trade up

                              Most people are projecting him out of the top 10.


                              Det- Smith
                              STL- Monroe
                              KC- Curry
                              Sea- Oher
                              Clev- Orakpo
                              Cinc- BJ
                              Oak- Brown
                              Jack- Stafford
                              GB- Jenkins/Maybin/Ayers
                              SF- Sanchez

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