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  • shelby
    The Vanilla *****
    • Jul 2002
    • 48489

    BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

    Lawesome breaks it down....enjoy!

    I am feeling a bit angry these days. I am angry about the Sabres, I am
    angry at Notre Dame alumni and students for politicizing a commencement
    speech, I am angry about the economy. But what really has me steamed?
    It is the infatuation Bills fans seem to have with certain defensive ends and tight ends.

    First off, the idea that we are going to draft a defensive end at #11 is ludicrous. If anyone really believes that the Bills are going to jettison Schobel, Kelsay, Denney or even Ellis, and hand the starting job and a huge bonus to one of these defensive end prospects, they need their heads examined. First off, that just isn't the Bills' style. Furthermore, I honestly and truly believe that the Bills, right or wrong, blame the Schobel injury for the vast majority of their defensive line woes.


    As for these defensive end prospects, Aaron Maybin, Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown? These are not the pedigree of a game-changing defensive end that people are craving. They are just more of the same. In fact, I am not sure that, outside of Aaron Curry (who projects as a linebacker in the NFL,) there is a game-changer amongst the defensive lineman available this year.
    In that case, I advocate the Bills go one of two routes: 1) Take the best "big man" available, or 2) Take the best player available that fills a need. The Bills cannot go wrong if they follow this methodology. If they go the "big guy" route, they can go after B.J. Raji, or one of the well regarded Offensive tackles, as each would be great options. Raji might not be a star, but he would be a solid, dependable middle of the line guy. Oher gives the Bills leverage and flexibility with Jason Peters.


    I doubt the Bills go in this direction. I believe that they have identified Paul Posluszny as weak spot at middle linebacker. While much of the attention has been on filling in for Keith Ellison, I think Posluszny was a weaker link. He just didn't seem to be able to shed the blocks of the interior lineman who got to the second level. While I still believe Poz is a heck of a player, I simply think he is miscast as a middle linebacker in the NFL. I think he would thrive in the space which a move to outside linebacker would afford him.


    This leads me to my pick, which is Rey Maualuga, middle linebacker from USC. Maualuga has a few things going for him that I really like. I like his size, his ability to disengage from blocks, and his ability to make plays at or behind the line of scrimmage. He also is a very emotional, take charge sort of personality. I think that is something all Bills fans found lacking last year. The thing I really liked about Maualuga was that he played his best games on the biggest stages. Whereas many of the other draft prospects have great measurables, but not the stats to back them up, Maualuga is the total package of measurables, production and winning.
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  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71580

    #2
    Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

    I wouldn't be upset with Mualaga but someone has to ask him first if he knows that buffalo exists or at least knows where it's at. Sape didn't.
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    • EDS
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 5216

      #3
      Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

      I think Maybin could be a gamechanger in the John Abraham mold. Maybe not necessarily for the Bills and their system, but he has that potential.

      That being said, unless someone falls I doubt that anyone the Bills select will be a perfect fit.

      The only picks that would really piss me off would be a defensive back or tight end at 11.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71580

        #4
        Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

        Originally posted by EDS

        The only picks that would really piss me off would be a defensive back or tight end at 11.
        THey surprised us with the Whitner pick. They could surprise us with another safety with the 11th pick.
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        • EDS
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 5216

          #5
          Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

          Originally posted by justasportsfan
          THey surprised us with the Whitner pick. They could surprise us with another safety with the 11th pick.
          Oh I don't doubt their ability to "surprise," just saying it would be a mistake, in my opinion, to use the 11th pick on a DB or TE at this point.

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          • ddaryl
            Everything I post is sexual inuendo
            • Jan 2005
            • 10714

            #6
            Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

            I liked the article. Thought it was pretty damn good read that adequately depicts our needs vs: best value at #11

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            • bigbub2352
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 5386

              #7
              Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

              Great Post
              I agree that we are not going DE, not with this stupid regime and how DJ luvs the players he has, plus the overpaying we are doing for our DEs also leads me to believe there will not be a pick at 11 DE either

              I hate to say it but with McGee goin into FA next yr i see us taking another ****ing CB, plus it would be cheaper then a DE which is also a favorite for our owner

              I would luv USC Rey Magulaga
              if Ellison is again the starter that is just a joke and everyone on here can agree with that
              We need Pass rush badly but look at it to be addressed by whoever coachs the Bills next year
              Prepare to be dissapointed boys and girls
              XTRA CRISPY XTRA SAUCEY

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              • ddaryl
                Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                • Jan 2005
                • 10714

                #8
                Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                Originally posted by bigbub2352
                Great Post


                I hate to say it but with McGee goin into FA next yr i see us taking another ****ing CB, plus it would be cheaper then a DE which is also a favorite for our owner
                I beleive all draft picks are paid accordingly to where they were drafted. Meaning we could draft any player at any position and the amount is still going to fall somewhere between what the #10 pick receives and the #12 pick receives.

                If we do take a CB at #11, well then its going to be the a horrible year considering the holes we have on the OL, TE, LB, and DL

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                • Mahdi
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 10585

                  #9
                  Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                  Originally posted by shelby
                  Lawesome breaks it down....enjoy!



                  more...
                  Don't agree with this break down at all....

                  Orakpo, Maybin and Brown are exactly what they are... game changing college DEs who were explosive and extremely productive. Opposite the type of DEs we currently have on our roster.

                  Every college player is unknown as an NFL prospect so saying they don't have the Pedigree of game changing DEs is a moot point. Everything they have done in college indicates otherwise, but again, those are only indications.

                  What's ludicrous to me is that the Bills staff isn't going to upgrade the DE spot with a high pick either first or second. Even when Schobel was on the field he struggled to get pressure. Both in 07 and in the games he played in in 08. With all the pressure successful NFL defenses bring off the edge whether 3-4 or 4-3 the Bills KNOW that they must bring in someone to put heat on QBs and ludicrous is assuming that the combination of Kelsay, Denney and Schobel will do that for us. Especially in the AFCE.

                  I can guarantee that either Brown, Maybin, Orakpo, Ayers, Johnson, Sidbury, English or Connor Barwin will be a Bill on April 25th.

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                  • psubills62
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 11295

                    #10
                    Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                    Originally posted by Mahdi
                    Don't agree with this break down at all....
                    Yeah, I don't agree with the breakdown either, but mainly the Maualuga part. Seriously?? I just don't understand the infatuation with this guy for several reasons:

                    1) Has anyone who supports Maualuga read any scouting reports on him? He sounds almost exactly like Poz...so how is moving Poz to the outside and replacing him at MLB with Maualuga going to solve our problems?

                    2) Maualuga had 2.5 tackles for a loss in 2008, and zero sacks. That's 3 % of his total tackles....that's horrible, especially on a dominant defense like USC's. So where exactly is this ability to "make plays at or behind the line of scrimmage?"

                    3) Plays his best games on the biggest stages? I guess Maualuga's 13 total tackles in the 3 games against OSU, Notre Dame, and Penn State showed him that?


                    At this point, I can easily see the Bills drafting Clay Matthews or Cushing well before they draft Maualuga. I just don't see Maualuga solving any problems for this team. Every time I see him, his play reminds me of Laurinaitis (another guy I'm not a fan of) - more of a pile-jumper than game-changer.
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                    • User Manuel
                      The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2662

                      #11
                      Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                      Originally posted by Mahdi
                      Don't agree with this break down at all....

                      Orakpo, Maybin and Brown are exactly what they are... game changing college DEs who were explosive and extremely productive. Opposite the type of DEs we currently have on our roster.

                      Every college player is unknown as an NFL prospect so saying they don't have the Pedigree of game changing DEs is a moot point. Everything they have done in college indicates otherwise, but again, those are only indications.

                      What's ludicrous to me is that the Bills staff isn't going to upgrade the DE spot with a high pick either first or second. Even when Schobel was on the field he struggled to get pressure. Both in 07 and in the games he played in in 08. With all the pressure successful NFL defenses bring off the edge whether 3-4 or 4-3 the Bills KNOW that they must bring in someone to put heat on QBs and ludicrous is assuming that the combination of Kelsay, Denney and Schobel will do that for us. Especially in the AFCE.

                      I can guarantee that either Brown, Maybin, Orakpo, Ayers, Johnson, Sidbury, English or Connor Barwin will be a Bill on April 25th.
                      I could see them adding a DE in rounds 2-4, I just can't believe that they will use #11 for one.

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                      • User Manuel
                        The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 2662

                        #12
                        Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                        Originally posted by psubills62
                        3) Plays his best games on the biggest stages? I guess Maualuga's 13 total tackles in the 3 games against OSU, Notre Dame, and Penn State showed him that?
                        Defensive Player of the Game in the Rose Bowl vs. Penn State, 5 Tackles and an interception for a TD against Ohio State seem like some pretty darned good games to me. He played 1 half of the ND game. The guy is a stud. He had 6 sacks in 2007 and played a different role in 2008 which led to a significant reduction in his blitz opportunities.

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                        • justasportsfan
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71580

                          #13
                          Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                          the Pats are supposedly looking at him
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                          • yordad
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 11867

                            #14
                            Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                            Orakpo has "Stud NFL DE" written all over him.
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                            • Mahdi
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 10585

                              #15
                              Re: BillsZone Exclusive: The Bills # 11 Pick

                              Originally posted by justasportsfan
                              the Pats are supposedly looking at him
                              Yeah in a 3-4 he is a perfect fit. Especially being drafted at #23.

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