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If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
The best we're going to get is draft picks. We've already cut/failed to resign 4 offensive linemen from last year and only signed one. Trading away a proven, Pro Bowl player for completely unproven draft picks is a sure sign of rebuilding.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by OpIv37
The best we're going to get is draft picks. We've already cut/failed to resign 4 offensive linemen from last year and only signed one. Trading away a proven, Pro Bowl player for completely unproven draft picks is a sure sign of rebuilding.
This team isn't even close.
I agree that we get worse the day we make that trade... and to be honest, I would say we are worse than last year BEFORE this move.
Dockery-cut, no replacement, downgrade
Fowler/Preston- gone, Hangartner signed, push at this point
Losman- gone, Fitz signed, likely push
Crowell- gone, no replacement, downgrade
TO- signed, upgrade
Trade Peters- rookie replacement, almost assuredly a downgrade in year one
That's 3 downgrades, 2 pushes, and one upgrade for next year... We have a TON of work left for the draft and signings if we have any hope of being actually better than last year.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by EdwardsEra
I agree that we get worse the day we make that trade... and to be honest, I would say we are worse than last year BEFORE this move.
Dockery-cut, no replacement, downgrade
Fowler/Preston- gone, Hangartner signed, push at this point
Losman- gone, Fitz signed, likely push
Crowell- gone, no replacement, downgrade
TO- signed, upgrade
Trade Peters- rookie replacement, almost assuredly a downgrade in year one
That's 3 downgrades, 2 pushes, and one upgrade for next year... We have a TON of work left for the draft and signings if we have any hope of being actually better than last year.
Dockery, Preston, and Fowler were scrubs. Getting rid of them was addition by subtraction. And while the Bills have no LG as of yet, they could literally find anyone and he could do as well as Dockery did the past 2 years, for 1/4 the price. And Hangartner is a better player than Preston and Fowler.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Honestly, do you guys remember how bad Peters was last year? Is losing him really going to make this year's oline worse than last years? A 5th round rookie could've played as well as Jason did last season.
If Philly does something stupid and offers 2 first round picks for Peters, Buffalo would be nuts not to take it.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by Goobylal
Dockery, Preston, and Fowler were scrubs. Getting rid of them was addition by subtraction. And while the Bills have no LG as of yet, they could literally find anyone and he could do as well as Dockery did the past 2 years, for 1/4 the price. And Hangartner is a better player than Preston and Fowler.
1) Addition and subtraction are polar. Until someone comes in and plays better, we are worse... a crappy body is better than no body.
2) If you think that anyone can start at LG for us and play better than Dockery you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you forgot about guys like:
Lawrence Smith
Tutan Reyes
Joe Panos
Bennie Anderson
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by EdwardsEra
1) Addition and subtraction are polar. Until someone comes in and plays better, we are worse... a crappy body is better than no body.
2) If you think that anyone can start at LG for us and play better than Dockery you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you forgot about guys like:
Lawrence Smith
Tutan Reyes
Joe Panos
Bennie Anderson
EESSHHH!!!
Yes I remember them. They were as good (or more precisely, as bad) as Dockery was, which was my point. The Bills haven't had a good LG since Ruben Brown.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by Goobylal
Good post. I was going to ask Op to name the starting LT's for the Steelers and Cards, if not the Eagles and Ravens.
You can't go into a season with ZERO proven linemen. Well, 1- I'll give you Walker.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this place?
Last year, everyone was talking about how the line would be so much better since it was the same and they had time to "gel."
Now, they completely broke down the line and you guys are trying to say "Well some other team from some other year with some other players did it, so we can do it too." It's nonsense- you can't have it both ways.
BTW- every team you mentioned except the Cards has been consistently good for 10+ years. Translation: their FO's know how to find talent. Ours doesn't.
Re: If the Bills trade Peters, it means we're still rebuilding
Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
Honestly, do you guys remember how bad Peters was last year? Is losing him really going to make this year's oline worse than last years? A 5th round rookie could've played as well as Jason did last season.
If Philly does something stupid and offers 2 first round picks for Peters, Buffalo would be nuts not to take it.
Go back and watch the games. Peters struggled in his first few games back, no doubt- but other than that, people point to a handful of plays to say Peters sucked, some of which weren't actually his fault and some of which were meaningless. For example, he shut down Porter for two games except for one garbage time sack (the safety was Dockery's fault).
Do you really want Rookie-Question Mark-Hangartner-Butler-Walker protecting Trent? That's insane.
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