Parrish Rumor

[BillsWin]

Take it for what its worth, but I was told today that the Bills have received some calls inquiring about Roscoe from a few teams. The first information is that the Chiefs are one, and that Minnesota may have called but that has yet to be verified by a team source. Raiders may be interested but are not listed as having called the Bills yet. However, the Bills source said that "Buffalo really isn't close to making a deal for Roscoe. However the asking price may be a fourth, or a fourth and a seventh."

Reading between the lines and listening in on the rumor report this morning, I think Roscoe to KC looks good. However, the fact that there has been no solid offers for Parrish makes me think maybe the interest in the WR may be being leaked by his agent. That happens a lot in this business.

Take it for what its worth.

They better hurry up if they're going to get something done...

UPDATE THANKS TO NightHawk: Redskins a team Bills are talking to.

[BillsWin]

This news didn't even make our rumor bin report this morning so it isnt big news. But I thought I would post it for you guys.

[psubills62]

Thanks BillsWin. I really hope the Bills could put Parrish together in a package with a pick or so for Waters or even Gonzalez. That, imo, would be ideal.

[trapezeus]

roscoe is such a nonfactor on the bills being a playoff team and not being a playoff team. i don't care one way or the other. it would be ideal if we could keep him for week 1 and his punt return touchdown, but then move him in week 2 where he starts his long battle between underused and not smart enough to be on the field debate.

[Mitchell55]

Parrish and late 1st for Gonzo, Waters, and 3rd.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

I would not trade him for a 4th
he actually can do some stuff so Id keep him around

[Devin]

Parrish and late 1st for Gonzo, Waters, and 3rd.

Deffenely.

[jamze132]

Parrish and late 1st for Gonzo, Waters, and 3rd.
If we did that, we essentially traded Peters for a 33 year old TE and a 32 year old LG.

Parrish for a 3rd which I would take in a heart beat.

[Nighthawk]

Clayton just said on ESPN Radio that it looks like the Bills may be getting close to trading Parrish to the Redskins. He said that he knows the Bills want a 4th rounder for him, but doesn't know if they'd get it. I say they will.

[BillsWin]

Clayton just said on ESPN Radio that it looks like the Bills may be getting close to trading Parrish to the Redskins. He said that he knows the Bills want a 4th rounder for him, but doesn't know if they'd get it. I say they will.

they must have been the other team. I left alittle after I posted this thread so I missed any new news on the topic. I would like that if we could get a 4th.

[ServoBillieves]

Sigh...

One of my favorite players on the team, and knowing that he might be gone sucks.

Remember when Troy Vincent went to pick him up and said Roscoe was afraid of snow? Best of luck to him if he's gone, if he sticks around? Get more of the 'sco! Also, I see that as us definitley inking Freddy J to a long term deal, for punt return duties

[acehole]

Parrish and late 1st for Gonzo, Waters, and 3rd.

no not a good value.

Gonzo is worth a bills third at best as it is a high third.

Parris for that guard straight up...or Gonzo for a third or parish for a fourth.

[Goobylal]

Fred Jackson averaged 16.6 YPR (albeit on 7 punts) last year, compared to 15.3 for Roscoe. So the Bills might not be that bad off. But Jackson would have to prove he can sustain that level over more punts.

[realdealryan]

I love Roscoe, but he gets paid too much to be way down the WR depth chart. Since we can't figure out how to use him, we might as well trade him.

[Mr. Pink]

Delusions of grandeur...

Parrish is a gimmick player with only one true value to an NFL team - return duty.

At best, he's worth a 5th round pick.

[Oaf]

I'd rather have the best return specialist in the league than a 5th round pick, thank you. 4th round on the higher end sounds about right though. I would trade him for nothing less. Even better, I would hash out a package deal of some sort or trade him on draft day as a trade up to get a guy.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

I agree Oaf, anything less than a high 4th is laughable for a player that is productive

[TonyBlack]

how about trading our 3rd round pick and parrish for a 2nd round pick. if we do, we can get pettigrew maybe in the second round.

[ServoBillieves]

how about trading our 3rd round pick and parrish for a 2nd round pick. if we do, we can get pettigrew maybe in the second round.

No way Pett makes it out of the first. Even just being a blocker early on, the film I've seen of him shows he can catch, and as some analysts say, he's the top TE that would be ready for the NFL level.

Pettigrew won't make it past the Eagles at 2... wait... OH WE HAVE THE PICK!

SUCK IT EAGLES, PETTIGREW!

... On a serious note, I'm much more comfortable with a TE in the second or third rounds.

[OpIv37]

McKelvin, Jackson and McGee are all good returners, plus can actually PLAY their positions, unlike Roscoe.

I'd love to move Roscoe for a 4th or a 5th.

[Luisito23]

If all we can get for him is a pathetic 5th. we might as well keep him.

[ServoBillieves]

McKelvin, Jackson and McGee are all good returners, plus can actually PLAY their positions, unlike Roscoe.

I'd love to move Roscoe for a 4th or a 5th.

From past experience I'd like to agree Op, but have the Bills really ever given him a chance? I mean, with T.O. and Lee being deep threats, wouldn't you want to see what Parrish can do in the short game? Send Tee and Lee deep and give Sco the ball, make some moves and prove his worth? I dunno, as stated before I'm sort of a homer for Roscoe, but McGee and McLovin' have only shown good KR abilities. Freddy J showed some in PR, but can anyone match Roscoe's ability? I do agree that Sco hasn't put up great receiving numbers, but if he stays in the system, I think we can get solid numbers out of him this year.

[OpIv37]

From past experience I'd like to agree Op, but have the Bills really ever given him a chance? I mean, with T.O. and Lee being deep threats, wouldn't you want to see what Parrish can do in the short game? Send Tee and Lee deep and give Sco the ball, make some moves and prove his worth? I dunno, as stated before I'm sort of a homer for Roscoe, but McGee and McLovin' have only shown good KR abilities. Freddy J showed some in PR, but can anyone match Roscoe's ability? I do agree that Sco hasn't put up great receiving numbers, but if he stays in the system, I think we can get solid numbers out of him this year.

I'll agree that none of them are quite as good at returns as Roscoe, but they're much better at their positions. Roscoe's size holds him back, and he also doesn't get any separation when he runs his routes. With TO and Lee commanding a lot of attention, I think Reed, Hardy and Johnson can easily pick up the slack.

Basically, I think the Bills have hurt themselves in the past by keeping ST players who aren't particularly effective in their positions, and I also think this team has too many needs to be able to afford keeping a player who only contributes on returns.

[casdhf]

of McKelvin, McGee and Jackson, which have successfully returned punts?

None. We should keep Parrish.

[ServoBillieves]

I'll agree that none of them are quite as good at returns as Roscoe, but they're much better at their positions. Roscoe's size holds him back, and he also doesn't get any separation when he runs his routes. With TO and Lee commanding a lot of attention, I think Reed, Hardy and Johnson can easily pick up the slack.

Basically, I think the Bills have hurt themselves in the past by keeping ST players who aren't particularly effective in their positions, and I also think this team has too many needs to be able to afford keeping a player who only contributes on returns.

That was probably the best defense I could've expected, no coincidence that it came from you Op :-P. The McTwins have performed well at their positions and I hope the Rhodes signing keeps Freddy J in town a while longer. You have a point with the ST keeping. Sam Aiken, Mario Haggan, Josh Stamer (I'll tread lightly on Josh), a lot of guys we kept for ST reasons only. I never saw Haggs make a big play or Sam take one a long way to the house. Josh Stamer did OK when called on, but there was a reason he never started for the Bills, albeit for the Titans. Haggs did OK with Denver this year, but... 1 sack and 20 or so tackles won't get you a starting spot.

We still have one left with Justin Jenkins. On ST? Love the guy. I'd like to pull a George Wilson with him and move him to D, but that won't happen. I think we easily drop him for Stevie Johnson. Stevie has proven he's worth being drafted, and I like what I've seen both ST wise and receiving wise.

[OpIv37]

Agree on all those former ST'ers, and agreed on Johnson. He proved to be a great late-round pickup.

TO will probably only be here this year, and I'm really hoping Hardy learns from him. They're the same type of player (in terms of size and style, NOT in terms of skill), so hopefully TO can help Hardy develop.

[HHURRICANE]

No way Pett makes it out of the first. Even just being a blocker early on, the film I've seen of him shows he can catch, and as some analysts say, he's the top TE that would be ready for the NFL level.

Pettigrew won't make it past the Eagles at 2... wait... OH WE HAVE THE PICK!

SUCK IT EAGLES, PETTIGREW!

... On a serious note, I'm much more comfortable with a TE in the second or third rounds.

Caruuci reported this morning that Bills are NOT interested in Pettigrew.

[ServoBillieves]

Caruuci reported this morning that Bills are NOT interested in Pettigrew.

I vaguely remember hearing that. They want a pure pass catching TE. Schou and Fine have done OK (not using the fine pun here) but they are strictly H-Backs (in Shous case) and mediocre blocking TE's (in Fine's case). As much as I like the Derek's, we need a receiving TE that can take some pressure off Trent when he can't get Tee or Lee open.

[ServoBillieves]

Agree on all those former ST'ers, and agreed on Johnson. He proved to be a great late-round pickup.

TO will probably only be here this year, and I'm really hoping Hardy learns from him. They're the same type of player (in terms of size and style, NOT in terms of skill), so hopefully TO can help Hardy develop.

That was my hope when he came in: to be a mentor for Stevie and James and help them learn how to better themselves. Not to become like T.O. personality wise, but to help them develop as players. A young Lee and veteran slot in Josh can't do that, you bring in 13 years worth of experience and you have your man.

[HHURRICANE]

I vaguely remember hearing that. They want a pure pass catching TE. Schou and Fine have done OK (not using the fine pun here) but they are strictly H-Backs (in Shous case) and mediocre blocking TE's (in Fine's case). As much as I like the Derek's, we need a receiving TE that can take some pressure off Trent when he can't get Tee or Lee open.

Yeah, Carucci's counterpart thought it was crazy that the Bills would pass on Pettigrew in light of us blwoing up the o-line and the fact that he's an excellent blocker.

Carucci stuck to his guns and reiterated that The Bills would not take Pettigrew and that they wanted a true pass catching TE.