Root for Peters

[psubills62]

I understand the sentiments of the people who don't want Peters to succeed. But I think that we have good reason to root for Peters to 1) do well and play in a lot of games, and 2) to make the Pro Bowl.

My reasoning? As a Bills fan, it's fairly selfish. But maybe you remember that conditional 2010 pick. As far as I can tell, two of the only legitimate conditions for an offensive lineman would be playing time and making the Pro Bowl.

I even believe we should, as fans, vote for him to make the Pro Bowl. Because if he does, that may make the 2010 draft pick we receive that much better.

Maybe your principles will keep you from doing that, but I have no problem rooting for him to do well this year and make the Pro Bowl, hopefully giving us a better pick. After that, I could not care less what happens to him.

Also, I'd like to say that it really doesn't matter how many sacks he gave up anymore. He's gone, and at this point we should focus on the solution, not the past.

[kid mickey]

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I like your thinking.

[FlyingDutchman]

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id rather just see him tank so i can feel good about the picks we already got

[yordad]

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Oh my. Before I do that (as if my rooting changes something) I would like to know how good the pick could become, and what those conditions are. I can't root for that slob for nothin'.

But, good thread.

[EricStratton]

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I find it hard to root for or against an offensive lineman on a team I don't actually watch on a game by game basis.

Without watching most of the snaps how do you know if he plays well or if he plays poorly.

I prefer to just not care.

[kid mickey]

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id rather just see him tank so i can feel good about the picks we already got

I'd rather see those picks play up to where they were picked and justify the selection. I don't like Peters, but I want him to do well so we can get a good pick in 2010. After 2009 he can bomb out for all I care.

[Romes]

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Is it really a conditional pick? Do you have a link? I thought it was locked in as a 6th in 2010.

[kid mickey]

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Its a 6th rd conditional pick. He plays well it could move up to a 3rd rounder for all we know.

[Romes]

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Two news articles here that say nothing about a conditional pick...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gTtIl0szKTY1twnqnbELj0WARUuQD97LN44G0

http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/642841.html?imw=Y

edit: 3rd news article saying nothing about the pick being conditional...

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/43216452.html

[psubills62]

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Is it really a conditional pick? Do you have a link? I thought it was locked in as a 6th in 2010.

I think in Jay Glazer's first report, it was listed as a conditional 2010 pick, now it's mainly listed as a late-round pick. Chances are that it's conditional, but it's undisclosed for now. It's around the internet in various places.

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=Nfl&id=3061

See the entry under April 17, 1:29 p.m.

[yordad]

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I think in Jay Glazer's first report, it was listed as a conditional 2010 pick, now it's mainly listed as a late-round pick. Chances are that it's conditional, but it's undisclosed for now. It's around the internet in various places.

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=Nfl&id=3061

See the entry under April 17, 1:29 p.m.

"I don’t recall giving up that many. If they charged me with that many, so what? I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100% on every play."

LOL, it is like he thinks the Bills "charged" him with 11.5.

[Ickybaluky]

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I haven't seen anything about it being a conditional pick.

I saw this:

The conditional pick for 2010 might be only a sixth-rounder. Probably not what Buffalo Bills fans wanted to hear, but the club's intention was to get first- and third-round picks for Peters. The Bills received a first, a fourth and next year's pick for an undrafted player they didn't invest much in besides time and money.

and this:

For Peters, the Bills will receive a first-round pick (28th selection overall), a fourth-rounder in next weekend's draft and a sixth-round pick in 2010, according to a source.

and this:

The Bills obtained the second of the Eagles' two first-round selections (28th overall) and one of their two fourth-round selections. The Bills will also receive an additional pick in 2010, believed to be a sixth-rounder.

and this:

In exchange for Peters, the Eagles gave Buffalo the 28th pick in the first round and their fourth-round selection (121st overall) in next weekend's draft. The Bills also will get a sixth-round pick in 2010.

and this:

The cost wasn't all that steep - three draft picks, including the second of the Eagles' two first-round selections (No. 28) in the April 25-26 draft, a fourth-round pick (No. 121) this year and what a club source labeled a "very late pick" in the 2010 draft.

and this:

A club source confirmed that the Eagles have acquired Pro Bowl offensive tackle Jason Peters from the Buffalo Bills in exchange for the second of their two first-round picks (28th overall), a fourth-round pick and an undisclosed pick in next year’s draft.

[realdealryan]

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I even believe we should, as fans, vote for him to make the Pro Bowl. Because if he does, that may make the 2010 draft pick we receive that much better.

As nice as this would be, there is no logic here.

If we're in agreement that the trigger would be a Pro Bowl appearance (since OT stats are hard to quantify), this makes ZERO sense. He was voted to the Pro Bowl after giving up 11.5 sacks in a small market on a 7-9 team. What would make the Eagles think that he wouldn't get voted there again? It's almost guaranteed.

[Mitchell55]

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Walter said it was a conditional.NE39

[psubills62]

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I haven't seen anything about it being a conditional pick.

I saw this:



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Well, it's pretty foolish to say you haven't seen "anything," when I just posted a link to an entry that mentions a conditional pick. Here's some more:

http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/local/story/Bills-Trade-Jason-Peters-to-Eagles/ISTzSC-kI0qd1bD1QkS19w.cspx

"Buffalo completed a trade Friday that sent Peters to Phildelphia, in exchange for the Eagles second first-round pick, 28th overall, and also Philadelphia's fourth round pick in the upcoming NFL draft. Buffalo will also receive a conditional selection from the Eagles in the 2010 draft."

http://www.scoresreport.com/tag/jason-peters-trade-rumors/

"According to a report by Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, the Eagles have struck a deal with the Bills to acquire left tackle Jason Peters in exchange for the 28th overall pick and a fourth round pick in this year’s draft, as well as a conditional 2010 draft pick."

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-7-83/Source--Bills-receive-three-draft-picks-for-Peters.html

"An NFL source informs me the Bills have agreed to accept the Eagles' second first-round draft pick, 28th overall, and a fourth-round pick in this year's draft and a conditional pick in next year's draft in exchange for Peters."



It also seems foolish to get a late-round pick in 2010 (believed to be a sixth rounder) instead of a 7th rounder in 2009 if it's not conditional. There's almost no point.

While the links you posted didn't mention it being conditional, most of them were also saying that it was "assumed to be a sixth-rounder," meaning they had no clue. And even if it is a sixth rounder, since there are reports saying it's a conditional pick, why couldn't it be a conditional sixth-rounder?