Allen Wilson get's it for you that don't.

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Read on:

"Many of you may think Peters didn’t deserve the kind of money he was seeking, which was between $11 and $12 million per year. But that is the cost of trying to compete in the National Football League.
The Bills had no problem overpaying for left guard Derrick Dockery. They were very generous with right tackle Langston Walker. Neither is as accomplished at their positions as Peters is at his."

http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/644252.html

[DesertFox24]

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Look he is gone, Ralph has sent a message to every player on this team. Show up to offseason workouts and you will get paid.

He held out and got traded.

Stroud showed up, got paid.

Evans showed up, got paid
Williams showed up, got paid
Butler showed up, got paid
Jackson showed up, will get paid

Clements brief holdout, now a 49ner
Peters held out, now an eagle

There is a history here dude.

[CoolBreeze]

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Your defending a guy that just admitted he took plays off... While playing Left Tackle. Maybe you and Allen Wilson don't know anthing about the NFL. Buffalo recognized the mistake with Dockery, see where he is now? Langston Walker has played quite well. But, hey, continue to defend Jason Peters, and his "I don't care, I'm an Eagle now" attitude.

[kernowboy]

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as accomplished at giving up sacks?

A key point that he has missed is that we signed Dockery and Walker as free agents whilst Peters was under contract, a contract nobody forced him to sign and you dont' pay someone to be the highest paid at their position in the league when they are still learning. And whilst LTs are hard to come by, the Chargers, Colts, Titans and Patriots have all found quality operators in the 2nd whilst the Ravens even found theirs in the 5th.

And if the Eagles were prepared to pay up, how come there weren't 10 other teams knocking on our door. The 49ers need OT help. The Redskins need to replace Jansen. The Chargers have a huge hole at RT. Flozell Adams isn't getting any younger. The Bucs could do with a LT. Except there was silence.

You might be a homer for Peters and not a supporter of the Bills but get over it.

It will be proven to be a case of addition by subtraction, because whilst the guy we draft may not have the raw talent of Peters, he will have the work ethic and professionalism not to give up on plays and let his QB get sacked and injured.

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One bad season in the entire time he was here and now he sucks. Okay. And let's ignore missing camps and pre-season and the opener.

Sorry but if he plays well in Philly what will your excuse be then? We didn't know any better?

Your local reporter even thinks we were wrong.

[Night Train]

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It's an opinion and a valid one.

Wilson also stated in his online chat last week that he thought the Bills would get a 1st & a 4th for Peters, if traded.

That was his market and basically, that's what the Bills got.

[Jan Reimers]

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Peters is gone, whether we like it or not. Why piss and moan and carry on incessantly about something that is no longer relevant?

[Historian]

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Read LifetimeBillsFan's analysis of the whole thing.

It's quite good.

[streetkings01]

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One bad season in the entire time he was here and now he sucks. Okay. And let's ignore missing camps and pre-season and the opener.

Sorry but if he plays well in Philly what will your excuse be then? We didn't know any better?

Your local reporter even thinks we were wrong.

The thing is Peters has regressed since 2006. Since the 2007 season he has given up more and more sacks......he gave up like 1 sack in 2006, 6 sacks in 2007 and 11.5 sacks in 2008! His run blocking has regressed as well.......it seem as if he's content with where he's at in his career and doesn't care about improving and being the best at his position. Being in the pro bowl seems to be enough for Peters......dont give me that crap about Peters struggles last season was because he missed training camp and preseason......Walter Jones consistently missed training camp because of contract disputes and still started and finished every season dominant!

[Philagape]

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And let's ignore missing camps and pre-season and the opener.

Because he CHOSE to. And it hurt his performance -- physically and mentally -- and it endangered his QB. Because of his choice.
And that's why I don't want him on this team. He is not a team player, and cannot be trusted. Not to be the QB's blindside protector.

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Read LifetimeBillsFan's analysis of the whole thing.

It's quite good.

It's awesome and very sad. I think it sums why being a fan of this team is hopeless.

The Bills would figure out a reason why Peyton Manning isn't worth the money.

[Philagape]

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I don't care how justified his demands were. I don't care what was offered. I don't care how good he was at his best.

If any of that gets in your head ON THE FIELD, get off my team and don't ever come back.

[Saratoga Slim]

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One bad season in the entire time he was here and now he sucks.

Dude, it's not that he had a bad season, it's WHY he had a bad season. He had a bad season because he was MAD about money. Anquan Boldin was mad about money, but was mature enough to show up and play his ass off anyway--because once he was on the field he was interested enough in the game and his teammates to put the money issue aside. Peters was not. So yes, it was only one season, but in that one season Peters significantly devalued himself--he went from being a guy who people looked at as a rising star, to one with significant maturity question marks.

This isn't really even debatable. Only TWO teams entered the bidding for a guy with sufficient physical talent to be the best LT in the league. Everyone knows that LT is perhaps the 2nd most important position on any offense, and that it is extremely rare that a guy with Peters' talent, experience and age becomes available for trade. And yet only two teams were interested? Look what happened when Jay Cutler, a similar situation, went on the market. 1/3 of the league made calls.

There's a reason we could only get a late 1st, 4th & 6th. People were concerned about trading 1/3 of their draft picks and paying 10M+ a year to a guy who not only held out all offseason, but clearly did not get his head right and perform for the team once he showed up.

So does he suck? No, he's got incredible talent. But he is less valuable than he was at the end of 2007 because of his incredibly poor handling of the contract situation. That's why we couldn't get more--not because of bad negotiating by the FO, because there was no market for him.

Finally, you keep saying that the media, notably Sirius, says we got screwed. I listen to Sirius in the background for many hours every day while I work, and I can tell you that this isn't true. While a couple have questioned the move (Ross Tucker, Zig Fricassi), numerous (Jim Miller, Vic Carucci, Peter King, Sal Palantonio, Soloman Wilcots) have said that they fully understand why the Bills felt they had to pull the trigger. Moreover, just because everyone agrees that it was a good move for the Eagles does NOT mean that it was a mistake by the Bills. That's faulty logic--Peters had the Bills in a ransom situation and sapped them of leverage.

Again, did we get enough value for Peters? No, he's worth more than we got. But we had to move him because he was not happy here and we saw how he plays when he's not happy, and we DID get the best offer available on the open market. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it works sometimes.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

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I hate everything that comes out of Allen's mouth, just don't like his writting and his point of view. I'm not even going to bother reading this.

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Saratoga, if teams got rid of players for the reasons above there would hardly be any players in the league. All NFL players are big babies. I'm friends with a bunch of them and they still are even after they are done playing.

The Bills should have never let it get to a holdout and 8 million a year now looks reasonable considering that's what we offered in the end anyways.

Brandon played chicken and lost. The guy didn't play well in 2008, we lost Peters, and Peters actually made more money than if we had sat down and negotiated last summer.

Peters is the winner and we are the losers here. Period.