I have a problem

[kid mickey]

With anybody who sees the Bills addressing defense with the first pick when it was ranked 14th last year. Does anybody else see this logic? When you lose basically your entire OL and you already have one of the worst offenses in football you would think the smart way to go would be drafting guys that help your offense. You sign T.O and Rhodes Marshawn is gone for three games and you let go of Dockery, you trade Peters the Defense is still the same as last year and still people think we should be addressing a DE with the first pick. Are you serious? I mean do you want to get Trent Edwards killed? If the Bills don't take an OT with the 11th pick I am going to really question wtf the front office is doing. You can't honestly expect a 7th round draft choice who didn't play elite talent to play LT for you this year. Maybe right tackle. Maybe I am incorrect in thinking that this offense is gonna be horrible if you don't step up to the plate and get some nasty guys to block on this line. Hey what do I know though. I'm just a fan.

[kernowboy]

Re: I have a problem

Because although we were statistically good, there were many problems. We were very poor in sack totals, we gave up 120yds per game on the ground too easily. Teams were able to manage the clock against us because we couldn't get opposition offences off the field.

The notion behind going defence first is to get a DE who can get at their QB. Kelsay/Denney combined for only 6 sacks and the idea is with a sack merchant opposite Schobel both can make more plays.

At Linebacker, although we are stopping the run, we are stopping it to far behind the field allowing the opposition to more easily move the chains.

By sacking the opposition QB and putting under more pressure, they have face far more 3rd and longs allowing us to turn the ball over more frequently and getting the ball to our offence. Their QB will also be pressurised into more incompletions.

No matter how good our LT might be, he's useless sat on the bench, if our defence cannot get their QB off the field.

[Ingtar33]

Re: I have a problem

14th in the league doesn't win superbowls.

I won't be happy with the defense until we're top 5

[Jan Reimers]

Re: I have a problem

We had no pass rush, and teams don't win consistently without a pass rush.

There is real danger in putting too much emphasis on statistics, and not on what your eyes and brain clearly tell you.

[justasportsfan]

Re: I have a problem

Having a great D can also be a great offensive weapon. Getting to the qb is a weapon.With Brady back, we need to get better especially in the trenches.

[kid mickey]

Re: I have a problem

Wow a whole bunch of defensive supporters come on here. Wanna know what my eyes and brain tell me? This offense looked bad, played bad, ranked very bad and just lost their line. I guess my eyes and brain work okay. I keep wondering why our defense did well enough to keep this team in games and we got no offensive output. I guess all those three and outs just stuck in my head. I guess the 11 Td's that Trent Edwards put up are stuck in my head. I guess Marshawn barely getting 1100 yards is stuck in my head. I guess Evans three Tds are stuck in my head. I guess the last game of the year when we played the Pats and couldn't score is stuck in my head. I think all you guys who want to beef up this defense when we need offense so bad are correct. I just love the idea of Trent Edwards going to down. I love the idea of more three and outs. I love the idea of Fitzpatrick going in for Trent. I just love the idea that we face a whole bunch of 3-4 teams that have huge effing players in the front 7. I love it so much I am gonna take a guy who isn't going to see the field because Schobel and Kelsay are on the roster with my first pick. I love it so much that I am willing to risk the safety of my quarterback and I am willing to risk T.O imploding because nobody can get him the ball. Thanks guys you really made a billiever out of me. NOT!!!

[madness]

Re: I have a problem

As our lines stands right now, LW-KC-GH-BB-DB could have actually outplayed the Steelers OL last year* but the Steelers didn't let their weaknesses overcome their strength.... defense.

*Credit is due though to their OL during their playoff run. They really pulled together when the team needed it the most.

I'm not crazy about most of the DE's in this draft but if Raji is there, you take him.

[alohabillsfan]

Re: I have a problem

Kid Mickey, don't bother, it will only hurt your head with this group

[ddaryl]

Re: I have a problem

14th in the league doesn't win superbowls.

I won't be happy with the defense until we're top 5

and I won't be happy with our offense until we are at least top 15....


bottom line is our D didn't allow alot of points on the board, something a ball control Offense can help reduce and then counter by scoring more often

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf

2008 Team Stats (Game averages)

Pts Yds Pass Rush Offense 21.0 305.1 190.0 115.1 Defense 21.4 326.1 204.4 121.6

Our D held up decently. SO if we field a powerhouse line of scrimmage controlling, power running capable OL points allowed on D would go down and points scored would go up IMO.

Leave our OL in the present shape as it is now and we will see more 3 and outs, and our D being on the field more often and getting tired which means the D gives up more points and the O scores less.


We need OL over D IMO... We have the same D as last year, we have a much weaker OL then last year at this point

[Jan Reimers]

Re: I have a problem

No pass rush, no consistent success. We need a stud DE and OLB, then we can use our next seven picks on offense.

[kid mickey]

Re: I have a problem

We need an OL to protect the QB and make holes for the running back.

[Jan Reimers]

Re: I have a problem

We have a deep WR corps headed by TO and Lee, 3 very good RBs, and a promising young QB. That's a pretty good start, at least among the skill players. Even assuming that Bell, Fine and Chambers are not ready to start (and I would think that one, and possibly two, of them will develop) we don't need that much - or not so much that we should ignore our defensive needs.

[ddaryl]

Re: I have a problem

No pass rush, no consistent success. We need a stud DE and OLB, then we can use our next seven picks on offense.

I have 0 faith in our OL if we do not get at least one immediate starter on the OL from the draft.

The only way trading Peters and releasing Dockery Folwer and Preston gets compensated is if we improve our OL with starting caliber players. Right now the majority of our OL is nothing more then depth players penciled in as starters.


and as I mentioned above the D did a semi good job of keeping other teams in check on the scoreboard. SO since we invested in TO and we have Evans plus we have a stable of very good RB's it doesn't make much sense at all to have a sub standard OL. Our O is poised to breakout if we have a solid OL. If our OL is average it won;t matter how many DE's we draft the D is going to be out of gas in the 4th quarter because the O will be going 3 and out often.


BUT It really depends on value. If a DE is graded higher then the remaining T at #11 we take the DE, but I bet a few T's grade higher then the DE's we will have to choose from at #11.

[kernowboy]

Re: I have a problem

We need an OL to protect the QB and make holes for the running back.

says the fan wanting to cut Langston Walker ROFL

[Mike]

Re: I have a problem

what will happen -baring the improbable- is quite obvious... if you thought that
Buffalos' offense was bad last year, wait until this year! I have been saying

this sinse the Peter's trade... no oline = no offense

Most likely Trend Get injured in the first 4 games of the seas, and Bufflao has a

top 5 pic in next years draft...

we take a QB ... maybe Bradford...

We do not have elite talent on any side of the ball... we have no superstars on this team... and if we continue to draft in the middle of the pacck 10-20 we will stay at this level for a long time....