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  • The Juice Is Loose
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Feb 2009
    • 1341

    What would you guys think?

    Take a page from the Giants' book as of late.

    What if we draft 2 defensive ends in the first round?

    Something like Orakpo and Johnson from G Tech?

    Can you have too many D ends?
  • FlyingDutchman
    Registered User
    • Apr 2005
    • 5074

    #2
    Re: What would you guys think?

    if they can play oline as well than ok

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    • DrGraves
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 2693

      #3
      Re: What would you guys think?

      If we trade back up into the first and grab a tackle too.. then i saw go for it

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      • #4
        Re: What would you guys think?

        Didn't the Jaguars try that last year with two high picks at DE?

        Trouble was, they forgot the rest of the roster.

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: What would you guys think?

          Originally posted by The Juice Is Loose
          Take a page from the Giants' book as of late.

          What if we draft 2 defensive ends in the first round?

          Something like Orakpo and Johnson from G Tech?

          Can you have too many D ends?
          I think we need to remember that they have the luxury when they have been so successful and dont have as many needs as we do.

          I dont think we can afford to.

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          • SquishDaFish
            Lets GO BUFFALO!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 17034

            #6
            Re: What would you guys think?

            Draft a DE/LB at #11 then go OL and trade back into 1st rd and get the other either DE or LB we didnt get at #11 lol.

            OR Get DE at #11 and then T later in 1st and trade back into 1st and get Mack at C

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            • #7
              Re: What would you guys think?

              No trading - the higher you select the more it costs to pay and we can get good value in R2

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              • Lexwhat
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 2926

                #8
                Re: What would you guys think?

                The odds of both DEs turning out to be good players in the next 1-2 years is slim (our DE position is already so crowded).

                A better strategy might be to draft one in the 1st round and another in the 4th-5th round as a developmental project.

                We need help NOW at so many positions, so I would try to aim for the trenches (DT, DE, OT) with our 2 earliest picks (as long as we're not reaching).

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                • The Juice Is Loose
                  All-Pro Zoner
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1341

                  #9
                  Re: What would you guys think?

                  I don't think Jax forgot the rest of their roster. Their 3 starting inside linemen got hurt week 1 v Tennesse I believe.

                  That's big.

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                  • Lexwhat
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2926

                    #10
                    Re: What would you guys think?

                    Originally posted by BEASTMODE
                    Draft a DE/LB at #11 then go OL and trade back into 1st rd and get the other either DE or LB we didnt get at #11 lol.

                    OR Get DE at #11 and then T later in 1st and trade back into 1st and get Mack at C
                    I strongly disagree with this idea. Trading up is rarely justified, and has been especially bad for the Bills (McCargo, Poz) the past 2 years. Most of the time, it's better to stay put to get the most value out of our draft class.

                    We can't afford to lose draft picks like that. We have way too many holes to fill.

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                    • SquishDaFish
                      Lets GO BUFFALO!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 17034

                      #11
                      Re: What would you guys think?

                      Originally posted by Lexwhat
                      I strongly disagree with this idea. Trading up is rarely justified, and has been especially bad for the Bills (McCargo, Poz) the past 2 years. Most of the time, it's better to stay put to get the most value out of our draft class.

                      We can't afford to lose draft picks like that. We have way too many holes to fill.
                      I agree with you on McCargo but POZ? Your crazy that kid is good. Yea he got hurt but he is good.

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                      • Lexwhat
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2926

                        #12
                        Re: What would you guys think?

                        Originally posted by BEASTMODE
                        I agree with you on McCargo but POZ? Your crazy that kid is good. Yea he got hurt but he is good.
                        Sorry, I think I wasn't being clear...

                        I'm not saying Poz is a bad player, I'm just saying he wasn't worth losing an extra draft pick for (I think we gave up an additional 3rd Rounder to move up like 10 spots).

                        1. It's highly possible Poz would've fell to our original spot in the 2nd Round anyways. No way of knowing this though.

                        2. If not, we still could've drafted David Harris (a guy many people on this board liked) who was taken by the Jets 2 picks after our original spot.

                        Would you rather have Poz? Or would you rather have had David Harris and an additional 3rd round pick?

                        Anyways, the bottom line is that the draft is always so unpredictable. That's why moving up for a player is a risky, and often unwarranted, move because we may just end up with another McCargo.

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                        • HHURRICANE
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 15490

                          #13
                          Re: What would you guys think?

                          Originally posted by The Juice Is Loose
                          Take a page from the Giants' book as of late.

                          What if we draft 2 defensive ends in the first round?

                          Something like Orakpo and Johnson from G Tech?

                          Can you have too many D ends?
                          I think your posts are really way off the mark but I actually agree with this one.

                          Good post.

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                          • HHURRICANE
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15490

                            #14
                            Re: What would you guys think?

                            Originally posted by Lexwhat
                            The odds of both DEs turning out to be good players in the next 1-2 years is slim (our DE position is already so crowded).

                            A better strategy might be to draft one in the 1st round and another in the 4th-5th round as a developmental project.

                            We need help NOW at so many positions, so I would try to aim for the trenches (DT, DE, OT) with our 2 earliest picks (as long as we're not reaching).
                            Dallas went Spears and Ware in the same draft.

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                            • ddaryl
                              Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 10714

                              #15
                              Re: What would you guys think?

                              we need immediate impact players at DE, OL, LB

                              we cannot afford to draft 2 DE's early IMO

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