Did that just ****ing happen?

[OpIv37]

Did we take Maybin with Orakpo and Oher still on the board?

WTF is this FO thinking?

Maybin's only 250 and the NFLN announcers said he struggles to keep on the weight. Orakpo's 270 and in peak physical condition already. To make matters worse, he went to the Skins, so I'll have to watch him tear it up while Maybin's still getting in shape.

What part of "we need help NOW!" does this FO not understand? We're still building for a future that never actually arrives.

[DMBcrew36]

Did we take Maybin with Orakpo and Oher still on the board?

WTF is this FO thinking?

Maybin's only 250 and the NFLN announcers said he struggles to keep on the weight. Orakpo's 270 and in peak physical condition already. To make matters worse, he went to the Skins, so I'll have to watch him tear it up while Maybin's still getting in shape.

What part of "we need help NOW!" does this FO not understand? We're still building for a future that never actually arrives.

The Bills apparently like to lose even before the first game starts.

[The Juice Is Loose]

I agree, This is Whitner V2. Total flop of a pick. With Brown and Orakpo still out there.

Just what we need, Keith Ellison's twin brother playing D end.

[Ebenezer]

unless he plays LB it is a waste.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

Jesus, here we go again...
MAYBIN IS A BUFFALO BILLS...
STFU and ENJOY THE SHOW

[X-Era]

Did we take Maybin with Orakpo and Oher still on the board?

WTF is this FO thinking?

Maybin's only 250 and the NFLN announcers said he struggles to keep on the weight. Orakpo's 270 and in peak physical condition already. To make matters worse, he went to the Skins, so I'll have to watch him tear it up while Maybin's still getting in shape.

What part of "we need help NOW!" does this FO not understand? We're still building for a future that never actually arrives.

If he plays OLB, I LOVE what he brinsg to our pass rush and his speed is good enough.

At OLB, he can go back to 230-ish for all I care.

[Nighthawk]

I don't know, there is just something about Orakpo that I wasn't sold on. It's just a feeling, but them passing on him doesn't bother me too much.

[kernowboy]

If he hits the weight room it is very easy to add 15-20lbs in muscle without losing speed. That takes him to 265lbs-270lbs. It works for the Colts

[methos4ever]

Maybin as per the text was named a LB, he can play Will linebacker and rush on 3rd with someone like Ellison (who is decent in coverage) playing the true linebacker on those downs.

[The Juice Is Loose]

Jesus, here we go again...
MAYBIN IS A BUFFALO BILLS...
STFU and ENJOY THE SHOW

Ok, I'l STFU and enjoy watching another 1st round pick get wasted.

Whitner
McCargo
Whitner again
and now Maybin.

He'll have as many sack as Whitner has picks.

He's going to get blown off the line.

He's going to play a third of the defensive snaps, at most.

TOTAL FLOP. I'M DONE! I'M A BEARS FAN NOW!

[Dr. Pepper]

how did I know Op would chime in with a negative comment, regardless of the pick???

[Mad Bomber]

Did we take Maybin with Orakpo and Oher still on the board?

WTF is this FO thinking?

Maybin's only 250 and the NFLN announcers said he struggles to keep on the weight. Orakpo's 270 and in peak physical condition already. To make matters worse, he went to the Skins, so I'll have to watch him tear it up while Maybin's still getting in shape.

What part of "we need help NOW!" does this FO not understand? We're still building for a future that never actually arrives.
Just got off the phone with my nephew.

Here's how the conversation went...

"Hi Josh, Uncle Tom"
"What the ****????"

Pretty much sums it up...

[The Juice Is Loose]

Maybin as per the text was named a LB, he can play Will linebacker and rush on 3rd with someone like Ellison (who is decent in coverage) playing the true linebacker on those downs.

Awesome. So we spent a 1st round pick on a sub 250lb tweener.

And we're going to convert him from DE to LB.

With real LB's such as Cushing and Matthews on the board.

There is no logical explanation to this, other than Ralph throws a dart blindfolded at a wall with names on it for our draft process.

I WANT TO PUKE!

[Prov401]

Shhhh.. Seriously. Why did Orakpo even fall to us? Anybody? I mean, what, 11 teams did pass him up. How does the sexiest pick in this draft, the guy who can bench press a house, go from being a possible top 5 pick 2 weeks ago, to sliding to the Skins. Orakpo just got everyone exctied because he is a physical specimen. However, his work-ethic, and trademark of taking plays off obviously did him in. Maybin has the quickest first step towards the QB in this draft. I'm sick of people bashing his weight. The kid had an impressive 22 reps on the bench, and oh btw he has about the same exact build as that future hall of famer guy, oh what's his name.... Jason Taylor. I love the pick. We got a kid who got a tremendous amount of work ethic, and to be honest, I would have taken him ahead of Orakpo 10 times over. I'm the furthest from being a homer. I would admit if my team just screwed up, but I'm going to be honest.. I don't think we did. Maybin is smart, fast, and has great technique.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

Ok, I'l STFU and enjoy watching another 1st round pick get wasted.

Whitner
McCargo
Whitner again
and now Maybin.

He'll have as many sack as Whitner has picks.

He's going to get blown off the line.

He's going to play a third of the defensive snaps, at most.

TOTAL FLOP. I'M DONE! I'M A BEARS FAN NOW!
Have fun, you are not a true fan and you never have been... I hope this pick causes the rest of you failures to change teams... ya damn wagon jumper

[Mad Bomber]

how did I know Op would chime in with a negative comment, regardless of the pick???
Sorry (actually NOT), but I completely agree with Op here. This was an incredible reach at 11. With Orakpo and Oher on the board, especially considering the FACT that we have NO LT, I am disappointed (but NOT in the least SURPRISED) that the
Bills would reach for someone like Maybin.

Who are the Bills going to go for at 28....a kicker??????

[tampabay25690]

unless he plays LB it is a waste.

Come on you are a pretty smart guy....
Of course he is an OLB, why do u want a guy that plays in the BIG 12 anyway.......
The guy has never had competition as a collge player.......

The pick is made and he will help this team...

[DrGraves]

lets go riot at the stadium

[realdealryan]

Maybin might have been the wrong pick, BUT Orakpo said he had to "lay down in a big bed" after getting picked. Just what you want. Too much excitement for me, I need a break. Workout warrior bust in the making.

[casdhf]

He will give us immediate help in pass rush situations. No other rookie DE will have more sacks. Book it.

[Prov401]

Maybing would have been gone by 28. We probably couldn't find a trading partner to trade up. Bottom line, Bills had Maybin picked out before this draft even started. Great pick.

[Dr. Pepper]

Sorry (actually NOT), but I completely agree with Op here. This was an incredible reach at 11. With Orakpo and Oher on the board, especially considering the FACT that we have NO LT, I am disappointed (but NOT in the least SURPRISED) that the
Bills would reach for someone like Maybin.

Who are the Bills going to go for at 28....a kicker??????

im not saying i disagree with him... it's just so cliche.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

He will give us immediate help in pass rush situations. No other rookie DE will have more sacks. Book it.
I hope so... to shut up everyone

[tampabay25690]

I don't know, there is just something about Orakpo that I wasn't sold on. It's just a feeling, but them passing on him doesn't bother me too much.

I AGREE with you 100%%%%% I was not sold on him either...
maybin as our starting OLB I dont mind seeing, its much better then ELLISON

[X-Era]

Sorry (actually NOT), but I completely agree with Op here. This was an incredible reach at 11. With Orakpo and Oher on the board, especially considering the FACT that we have NO LT, I am disappointed (but NOT in the least SURPRISED) that the
Bills would reach for someone like Maybin.

Who are the Bills going to go for at 28....a kicker??????

No, a TE.

And the Bills may just find that they had a heck of a draft a few years from now.

Maybin is raw, but hes no piece of garbage as a pass rusher.

[billogic99]

For those happy with this pick, I'd like to know how a 250 lb DE is going to find his way to a QB in this division, look how frikin big the Olinmen are in this division. I could have lived with Maybin at 28 even then only slightly, but not 11. My goodness, Jake Long is 6'7 and 310 lbs and the wing sapn of a 747, how the Hell is Maybin gonna move him?

[Nighthawk]

Maybin as per the text was named a LB, he can play Will linebacker and rush on 3rd with someone like Ellison (who is decent in coverage) playing the true linebacker on those downs.

You're on crack if you think Ellison is good at anything! The guy shouldn't even be in the NFL!

[X-Era]

I wonder how much Poz had to do with this.

I wondser if we hear that Poz talked him up big time.

[Prov401]

He will give us immediate help in pass rush situations. No other rookie DE will have more sacks. Book it.

I agree. We had our choice between Orakpo, Oher, Ayers, Maybin, and Brown. Brown would have been one hell of a reach. Ayers is raw, but as many have said, he looks as if he has the brightest future ahead of him of all the DE's, however that's a work in progree. Orakpo is going to be a BUST, book that. And this draft is so deep at OT. Great pick. Oh and to the poster, Yes did this just ****ing happen. Be happy.

[tampabay25690]

For those happy with this pick, I'd like to know how a 250 lb DE is going to find his way to a QB in this division, look how frikin big the Olinmen are in this division. I could have lived with Maybin at 28 even then only slightly, but not 11. My goodness, Jake Long is 6'7 and 310 lbs and the wing sapn of a 747, how the Hell is Maybin gonna move him?

OK whos ays he a DE on this team???
Before you type try to figure out what you are talking about....
What is wrong with a 250# OLB?

I like the pick

[Prov401]

For those happy with this pick, I'd like to know how a 250 lb DE is going to find his way to a QB in this division, look how frikin big the Olinmen are in this division. I could have lived with Maybin at 28 even then only slightly, but not 11. My goodness, Jake Long is 6'7 and 310 lbs and the wing sapn of a 747, how the Hell is Maybin gonna move him?

I dont know. Ask Jason Taylor.

[Ebenezer]

Come on you are a pretty smart guy....
Of course he is an OLB, why do u want a guy that plays in the BIG 12 anyway.......
The guy has never had competition as a collge player.......

The pick is made and he will help this team...
Maybin played in the Big 10...Minnesota, Purdue, Iowa....ugh.

[tampabay25690]

You're on crack if you think Ellison is good at anything! The guy shouldn't even be in the NFL!

He is a good backup LB

[tampabay25690]

Maybin played in the Big 10...Minnesota, Purdue, Iowa....ugh.

I agree the Big 10 but the guy was the best OLB in the draft...
He has a great 1st step, and will help this team

[Philagape]

Maybing would have been gone by 28. We probably couldn't find a trading partner to trade up. Bottom line, Bills had Maybin picked out before this draft even started. Great pick.

But they probably could have traded down, perhaps with the Skins, who jumped on Orapko. We'll never know because the Bills went straight to the stage.

[billogic99]

OK whos ays he a DE on this team???
Before you type try to figure out what you are talking about....
What is wrong with a 250# OLB?



I like the pick

We need a DE pass rusher a whole lot more than we need an OLB. I don't what team you're following, but Maybin is not the pick for the Bills, especially at 11.

[Tatonka]

this thread is hilarious..

:roflmao:

who would have guessed op would start this.

[Dr. Lecter]

Yesterday Op said they had to reach for need.

They reached for need and he bashes them for it.

[Nighthawk]

Yesterday Op said they had to reach for need.

They reached for need and he bashes them for it.

Hey Lecter, if it helps...my gut tells me Maybin will be good.

[DMBcrew36]

The only #11 selection that would make me more annoyed would be if we had selected Pettigrew.

[Dr. Lecter]

Hey Lecter, if it helps...my gut tells me Maybin will be good.

My gut will soon have steak and bourbon in it!!!!

Maybe enough bourbon will make me agree with you.

I just hope I am wrong on this guy and you are right.

'course now I can call you a homer!! :D

[tampabay25690]

We need a DE pass rusher a whole lot more than we need an OLB. I don't what team you're following, but Maybin is not the pick for the Bills, especially at 11.

Are you kidding me right now???? What team you follow......
We dont need an OLB huh??? I wont even say more?

OLB"s Get to the QB if you know football..

[Nighthawk]

My gut will soon have steak and bourbon in it!!!!

Maybe enough bourbon will make me agree with you.

I just hope I am wrong on this guy and you are right.

'course now I can call you a homer!! :D

Ha, ha...I'm being serious though...my gut is usually right.

[Buddo]

Bottom line is the guy was the second DE taken. He was obviously the guy the Bills liked best out of those left, and I rather suspect they may not have taken Jackson.

[Dr. Lecter]

Ha, ha...I'm being serious though...my gut is usually right.

I hope so.

Maybe as a rush LB he will work out.

[DMBcrew36]

Bottom line is the guy was the second DE taken. He was obviously the guy the Bills liked best out of those left, and I rather suspect they may not have taken Jackson.

And the Bills selected Whitner with the #8, 2nd safety taken. That doesn't mean Whitner wasn't a reach. Where you're picked doesn't make you good. But I'm going to wait and hear the brilliant explanation from the Bills of why they picked Maybin and not Orakpo.

[Bill Cody]

And the Bills selected Whitner with the #8, 2nd safety taken. That doesn't mean Whitner wasn't a reach. Where you're picked doesn't make you good. But I'm going to wait and hear the brilliant explanation from the Bills of why they picked Maybin and not Orakpo.

I liked Orakpo also. But we did what we needed to do. We got a pass rusher and a good one. Maybin has to bulk up but if he does he could be a dominant pass rusher like Dwight Freeney or Terrell Suggs. And if you look at most mock drafts at least half of them had Maybin going before we picked so this BS about the pick being a reach is just that.

[billogic99]

Are you kidding me right now???? What team you follow......
We dont need an OLB huh??? I wont even say more?

OLB"s Get to the QB if you know football..

IMO maybin will not last in the NFL and he was drafted waaayyy too early.

[SABURZFAN]

i'm not a fan of this pick.

[TedMock]

The good news is the Redskins picked Orakpo 2 picks after we did. Our fanbase wanted Malcolm Kelly, Devid Thomas and Fred Davis last year. The Skins picked them all. Not that it means Maybin will be good, but it certainly makes me feel better about not taking Orakpo.

Seriously, Maybin is an excellent pass rusher. A lot of people wanted us to take the equally tiny Everette Brown because he can get to the QB. We had pick of the litter, so Maybin was obviously the top pass rusher on our board. They filled a need that most wanted them to fill with that pick.

My biggest complaint is that he is going to be a pass-rush specialist only until he puts on 15 pounds, so he's only going to play on long downs this season.

[BAM]

I like the pick a lot actually. He's versatile. We did well on the first day.

[Jan Reimers]

I like the pick a lot actually. He's versatile. We did well on the first day.
I agree, and more importantly, so does Todd McShay. On ESPN this morning, he called Maybin the best pass rushing DE in the draft, and ranked the Bills' first day picks as the biggest winner.

I know that doesn't mean much compared to all of the experts on here who hate almost everything we do, but it was nice to hear something positive.

[Bufftp]

I agree, and more importantly, so does Todd McShay. On ESPN this morning, he called Maybin the best pass rushing DE in the draft, and ranked the Bills' first day picks as the biggest winner.

I know that doesn't mean much compared to all of the experts on here who hate almost everything we do, but it was nice to hear something positive.
Sorry Jan you posted a positive post- please surrender your Bills fan card immediatley.

I agree, Maybin may be the best pick for the Bills. And I worry about Orapko rep to be a bit lazy. We don't need that here.

[SquishDaFish]

Alot of people were saying they liked Mcshay yesterday compared to dip**** Kiper. And this morning McShay said buffalo had the best first day in his mind. And talked big on Maybin

[LifetimeBillsFan]

Of course OP would have to start this thread. No matter who the Bills picked or didn't pick OP would have found fault with the pick, the names are interchangeable.

Well, I, like some others, happen to like the pick. I said before the draft that I thought that the Bills would pass on Oher if they felt that D.Bell had progressed sufficiently in his development, and that I liked Maybin just a slight bit more than the other two top DEs.

Maybin is 6' 4" and just turned 21 years old. He put on weight and is now 250 lbs. and can easily put on another 5 lbs this year and more as he fills out and works in a NFL conditioning program (he already has said that he is working in a different training program with the same people that Poz trains with).

Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, John Abraham and Jason Taylor are all DEs who have played at roughly the same size that Maybin will be when he gets to training camp and been successful. So, enough of this nonsense about him being too small to play well in the NFL.

Look at the tape of the Rose Bowl game if you didn't see it and you will see the kind of player that Maybin is. While he didn't get a sack until late in the game, he was consistently getting pressure on Sanchez. If you watch closely, you will notice that, after about midway through the first quarter or so, USC had Sanchez rolling out away from Maybin's side of the field rather than dropping straight back to avoid the pressure he was bringing. Now, everyone knows how good USC's offensive tackles have been in recent years and how good that team is, so Maybin wasn't going up against "chopped liver" there. And, he kept on playing hard in that game, even after USC took a big lead.

Now, go watch some of Orakpo's games. Watch Brandon Pettigrew put him on his butt on the goal line in the Okla.St. game. As good a game as he played against Oklahoma, where was he in the second and third quarters? No question that Orakpo has the physical ability and athleticism to be an absolute monster in the NFL. No question that he is bigger and probably stronger than Maybin at this stage and has the potential to be a better player than Maybin. But, will he play up to his potential? Or, will he take plays off like he did in college? Or, will he become another Texas product that dominates on physical ability in college but doesn't work hard enough as a pro to live up to his athletic potential, especially after he gets a big payday? (OP, you don't like Whitner, well how about Huff? Do you want to take a chance on a guy who can be another Huff, Mike Williams, etc., etc., etc.?)

As for not taking Oher: Oher is a story and a kid with a lot of athleticism, but he is still RAW and is going to take time to develop. He has been inconsistent as well. Demetrius Bell has a lot of athleticism, too, and was very raw coming out of college--rawer than Oher. But, how do you know that, after a year with the Bills, Bell is still more raw than Oher? Can you tell me for sure that you know, without a doubt, that Bell isn't as strong as Oher and is still rawer than Oher? You know that the answer to that is that YOU CAN'T.

The Bills had a chance to take three potential LTs in this draft: Oher, Britten and Beatty (forget about Loadholt and the rest); and they passed on all of them. Now, I know that you don't trust the Bills FO. But, after months of negotiating with Jason Peters and his agent and working out a trade to send him to Philly, do you think that they are all so stupid that they do not know that they lost their starting LT and have to find a replacement for him? Has it ever dawned on you (or three quarters of the people in the media) that the Bills FO just might feel that they already have a player who they feel will be able to fill that position better than any one of the LTs that they passed on (or that they have been planning to acquire someone who can)?

I don't know if the players that the Bills FO picked are all going to turn out to be great players. The odds are that some of them won't. But, after years of screaming and moaning here that the Bills have not been addressing their offensive and defensive lines early in the draft, what do you do when they finally go out and spend three of the four picks that they made on the first day of the draft on a DE and TWO offensive linemen? Moan and complain. Why? Because they didn't draft the guys that you wanted them to take--guys who had just as many flaws/questionmarks in their games as the guys that they did draft.

Why not at least give these guys a fair shot to show what they can do? And, don't base your evaluation on just what they do in their rookie seasons. If three of these four players turn out to be solid starters, perhaps one a difference maker (although it is tough for an offensive lineman to be recognized as a difference maker), the Bills will have had a pretty good draft. If that doesn't happen, then you can moan all you want....

PS: Guess what, the Bills didn't draft a number of players that I would have liked to have seen them take, either. But, I'm not going to moan about that until I see how everything shakes out and have some idea of what the guys that they drafted actually end up being able to do for the team.

[User Manuel]

Maybin might have been the wrong pick, BUT Orakpo said he had to "lay down in a big bed" after getting picked. Just what you want. Too much excitement for me, I need a break. Workout warrior bust in the making.

[Mr. Pink]

Op...I'm with you on this one...

When they made the announcement I was like WTF?

We spent our first pick on a guy who's only going to be contributing on 3rd downs for the foreseeable future basically.

[justasportsfan]

Did we take Maybin with Orakpo and Oher still on the board?

WTF is this FO thinking?

Maybin's only 250 and the NFLN announcers said he struggles to keep on the weight. Orakpo's 270 and in peak physical condition already. To make matters worse, he went to the Skins, so I'll have to watch him tear it up while Maybin's still getting in shape.

What part of "we need help NOW!" does this FO not understand? We're still building for a future that never actually arrives.
wow, he's not that much bigger than POZ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEZRB0FJJ0

[justasportsfan]

Ok, I'l STFU and enjoy watching another 1st round pick get wasted.

Whitner
McCargo
Whitner again
and now Maybin.

He'll have as many sack as Whitner has picks.

He's going to get blown off the line.

He's going to play a third of the defensive snaps, at most.

TOTAL FLOP. I'M DONE! I'M A BEARS FAN NOW!
:bigwave: Take HH with you ...PLease?

[The King]

I dont hate this pick. I think Orakpo wouldve been the sexier pick for sure. In his interview after he said he wanted to play for the skins he was really brushed up on their front office... maybe he wasnt crazy about playing for Buffalo. Orakpo is a Takeo Spikes type player when he makes the tackle the entire world knows about it, its momentum changing, but he plays a little reckless, he sticks his neck out a little to often.

Maybin seems like more of a blue colar Buffalo type guy to me. A guy who will embrace the team and the city, he's not as flashy but he will be a productive NFL player.

[SABURZFAN]

Alot of people were saying they liked Mcshay yesterday compared to dip**** Kiper. And this morning McShay said buffalo had the best first day in his mind. And talked big on Maybin


i hope McShay is right because i have a bad feeling about the Maybin pick.