Not everyone loved our draft.

[HHURRICANE]

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AFC East


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Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/;_ylt=AuOhBfhAyW1.WOfm.FeXsYHsYNAF)
Picks: LB Aaron Maybin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/;_ylt=AqdY1QvUW8WVdW.CwvZdVZvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/news;_ylt=AqeMeFHJm1_I71FzDnG3PGvsYNAF), C Eric Wood (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/;_ylt=AloN4XEqHk9JE_m1N6K3QCXsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/news;_ylt=AoDoafpg70bpYcVS2vDXg3TsYNAF), CB Jairus Byrd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/;_ylt=Amb4nH2iWCmlsb0P0eRsNCvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/news;_ylt=AtegN1BdP_pVNNSIDTkpGhfsYNAF), OL Andy Levitre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/;_ylt=AsfQD76nWEDjiSYjUIHJ.Q_sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/news;_ylt=AjKGSh4TeteD5sM2mvaIcTXsYNAF), TE Shawn Nelson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/;_ylt=AmmN6B9YccLVMJCqUjBn7O7sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/news;_ylt=AhxziweQf..xka98QktZhIjsYNAF), S Nic Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/;_ylt=AsKI6KvAxGvM71BdSlN.T1rsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/news;_ylt=Atmh768SwGuE4Fv.HIFSPv_sYNAF), CB Cary Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/;_ylt=As9O.ViYD4J_n7F8GkYMJAHsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/news;_ylt=ArWm32yYTsPe6N.WVySUhGrsYNAF), DB Ellis Lankster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/;_ylt=AuAnHQiVQ5MuG5nRqbQGhPLsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/news;_ylt=AswTdqtXWitlG1PqC_x1DOHsYNAF).
Positives: Maybin, Byrd.
Negative: Wood.
Bottom line: C-.
Considering the recent trade of Jason Peters (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/;_ylt=AgrojT3k44wmMYFOuzHyBQrsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/news;_ylt=As49WI_BduNS5C_7EM.65vjsYNAF), this is a pretty mediocre draft. Maybin is a dynamic, pass-rushing athlete the Bills haven’t had at linebacker since the days of Bryce Paup. The downside with Maybin is he hasn’t played that much and spent only one year as a starter at Penn State. If the Bills can keep defensive end Aaron Schobel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/;_ylt=Av9LdS.UrWLN7ZKi3tVzgEbsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/news;_ylt=AqcwROw2x.DqVRaHO9n2V8rsYNAF) healthy, Maybin could team with him and fellow defensive end Chris Kelsay (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/;_ylt=AmUljwz_urgRu76URDiY6TPsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/news;_ylt=AtCvZ9krImXuDeBlMvjPzRDsYNAF) to give the team a dynamic pass rush. Byrd is an interception machine, finishing his career at Oregon with 17, and gives the Bills some much-needed depth in the secondary. However, neither Wood nor Levitre are great athletes, even by offensive line standards, and appear to be reaches.

[casdhf]

Who is this guy?

[Pinkerton Security]

nice post man, nice post. keep up the good work.

[scartown]

:coocoo:

[ddaryl]

he considers Wood a negative ????

[THATHURMANATOR]

Plus it comes from another uninformed douche who insists we needed to draft another Tackle when in reality our line issues were inside.

[Mr. Pink]

Plus it comes from another uninformed douche who insists we needed to draft another Tackle when in reality our line issues were inside.


Corey, didn't we have this discussion yesterday?

Not everything is blue skies and rainbows.

A difference of opinion, even if you do not like it, doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

Truth is, everything is somewhere in between in all likelihood.

[Jan Reimers]

The great Jason Cole, the talent evaluator extraordinaire, the guru of NFL draftniks, the wisest wiseman of collegiate football, doesn't like our draft?

I'm crushed. I'm giving up. I'm done.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Corey, didn't we have this discussion yesterday?

Not everything is blue skies and rainbows.

A difference of opinion, even if you do not like it, doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

Truth is, everything is somewhere in between in all likelihood.
Yeah I understand that and when a valid point is made I can see both sides but when the guy is clearly uninformed I can't see any points being made. His whole reason for a low grade was based around us not drafting a tackle high. If we drafted a tackle high I would have been pissed.

[cocamide]

Old news... http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=174049

[Mr. Pink]

Yeah I understand that and when a valid point is made I can see both sides but when the guy is clearly uninformed I can't see any points being made. His whole reason for a low grade was based around us not drafting a tackle high. If we drafted a tackle high I would have been pissed.


People who don't follow the team closely only see that we lost a media hyped best LT in the league. When we do nothing to address that in their eyes we've screwed up. That's part of the reason he's reeming our draft.

The other is he doesn't like the choices and gives points as to why.

Is he right? Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.

But he's not just saying our draft sucks because we didn't address the tackle position although, yes, it is part of it.

[yordad]

How can anyone be convinced we do not need a tackle?

[THATHURMANATOR]

People who don't follow the team closely only see that we lost a media hyped best LT in the league. When we do nothing to address that in their eyes we've screwed up. That's part of the reason he's reeming our draft.

The other is he doesn't like the choices and gives points as to why.

Is he right? Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.

But he's not just saying our draft sucks because we didn't address the tackle position although, yes, it is part of it.
Why don't you and him get married already.

[THATHURMANATOR]

How can anyone be convinced we do not need a tackle?
Because we didn't

[Dr. Lecter]

The oddest part of his evaluation was calling Levitre a reach. I had not seen that before and most places had him as a late 2nd/early 3rd round guy.

[mysticsoto]

Plus it comes from another uninformed douche who insists we needed to draft another Tackle when in reality our line issues were inside.

Our issues WERE inside. But with Peters gone, our issue becomes outside also. We have hopes that between Chambers and Bell (and maybe even Butler) they can handle the LT position, and we've seen both Chambers and Walker man it and look ok, but they only did that for a few games and against weak opponents that had injury issues. Let's not completely assume anything yet. We hope that one of these can handle the position, but not everyone outside the organization may be convinced of that, and neither should we.

This is the 1st year where I'll be looking at the Oline more than any other group in TC...I can't wait!!!

[THATHURMANATOR]

Our issues WERE inside. But with Peters gone, our issue becomes outside also. We have hopes that between Chambers and Bell (and maybe even Butler) they can handle the LT position, and we've seen both Chambers and Walker man it and look ok, but they only did that for a few games and against weak opponents that had injury issues. Let's not completely assume anything yet. We hope that one of these can handle the position, but not everyone outside the organization may be convinced of that, and neither should we.

This is the 1st year where I'll be looking at the Oline more than any other group in TC...I can't wait!!!
Walker is our left tackle.

[Dr. Lecter]

Walker is our left tackle.

And that scares me, when the Bills face a team with a speed rusher who has quick outside moves.

[mayotm]

HH, you shouldn't write "our draft". Our is reserved for us Bills fans.

[Mr. Pink]

Why don't you and him get married already.


DAMN MAN!

What crawled up your arse this morning!

SHEESH!

[zone]

Dominic Rhodes is a good blocker in the backfield, he can help out with speed rushers and blitzers on passing downs.

[Buckets]

:deadhorse

[yordad]

Because we didn'tOh, OK. Thank you for your overwhelming evidence. I am now fully convinced.

[Throne Logic]

"gives the Bills some much-needed depth in the secondary."

This statement complete discredits the rest of the article. Anyone who knows even just a tiny bit about our team and the roster knows that we have far too many capable backups in the backfield.

[Mahdi]

"gives the Bills some much-needed depth in the secondary."

This statement complete discredits the rest of the article. Anyone who knows even just a tiny bit about our team and the roster knows that we have far too many capable backups in the backfield.
We have backup depth at safety but we dont have a starter at FS.

[ct bills fan]

The fact he doesn't even mention Nelson says all that needs to be said.

[justasportsfan]

the writer is clueless.

Mel Kiper on the other hand is the shiznit.

[HHURRICANE]

Do people actually look at their reactions to things around here?

All I did was post another evaluation of our draft. I didn't say he was right or wrong.

Argue his points instead of shooting the messenger.

The guy thinks Wood and Levitre are overrated. I think he's wrong on Wood and maybe right on Levitre.

Geez people.

[SquishDaFish]

Hes wrong on both

[billogic99]

God forbid everyone doesn't tell us we had the greatest draft ever. It's an opinion, nothing more. The players still have to play good opinion or bad.

[psubills62]

The problem with his "analysis" of Wood and Levitre is that being on the O-line, especially when you're an OG, is not all about being athletic. If we grabbed a WR who wasn't athletic, that would be a problem.

But first of all, Wood is a decent athlete. Not great, but not that bad. Second, they are smart, have versatility, good strength, experience, and have filled out their frames well. So his little blurb about them being bad athletes doesn't exactly paint a detailed picture.

[casdhf]

"Jason Cole is an award-winning writer who covered the Miami Dolphins for 15 years at The Miami Herald and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel."

Clearly, he doesn't know anything.

[HHURRICANE]

"Jason Cole is an award-winning writer who covered the Miami Dolphins for 15 years at The Miami Herald and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel."

Clearly, he doesn't know anything.

Alot of people thought we made a mistake not goint OT.

It's obvious that if you have to move a guy who played well at RT to a position that he struggled with in Oakland than the idea that we may have made a mistake might actually have some merit.

Vic Caurrici spent about the same amount of time covering the Bills. Does that means his opinion is irrelevant when he comments about the the fins?

[FlyingDutchman]

Do people actually look at their reactions to things around here?

All I did was post another evaluation of our draft. I didn't say he was right or wrong.

Argue his points instead of shooting the messenger.

The guy thinks Wood and Levitre are overrated. I think he's wrong on Wood and maybe right on Levitre.

Geez people.

who shot the messenger? 1 guy busted your balls a little, besides that everyone did discuss what he had to say

[FlyingDutchman]

a lot of points have already been made here. Wood a negative?....ok, he already lost credibility with me...no mention of Shawn Nelson in the 4th......it doesnt say he didnt like our draft, just that it was mediocore. Judging by his summary, you would think he even liked it

[TigerJ]

The tackles for Buffalo are an issue no matter how we look at it. I'm not necessarily worried, but the performance of a line that is potentially an 100% rebuild with no one at the position they held last season has to be a huge question mark. I don't have a problem with Wood or Levitre, or Hangartner for that matter, but since none of them will have worked together and all are relatively or completely inexperienced, no one is going to be able to rely on anyone else for much help in terms of assignments ore making adjustments to handle a defensve lineman who is making things difficult. I think the talent level is actually pretty good. Some have said leading up to the combine that Wood was not a great athlete, but the numbers at the combine seem to suggest he is actually a very good athlete. Levitre is prehaps not quite so athletic, has those now infamous short arms, and also faces a position change, having played tackle most of the time at Oregon. Still, all three interior linemen are considered to be extremely intelligent and have a reputation for toughness.

The biggest question marks for me are at tackle. Walker did play some left tackle in preseason last year, and did pretty well. We know, however, that preseason is not regular season, and the things defensive linemen may do during regular season in the way of running stunts may be challenging to him. I understand the most likely solution for right tackle is now considered to be Brad Butler. It's true he played tackle at Virginia and right tackle might be his most natural position, but he's been at guard now for a couple years now, so moving back out to tackle is yet another adjustment.

Overalll, it looks like the line may have more intelligent players. There's not a dimwit in the bunch. And it may have more toughness. Just the amount of change is somewhat daunting. I think it is critical for those the team deems as starters at the start of training camp to stay healthy and get a lot of reps in preseason so they can develop as much cohesiveness and chemistry as they can. If guys get hurt and have to switch around a lot, I think it's a recipe for disaster.

[HHURRICANE]

The tackles for Buffalo are an issue no matter how we look at it. I'm not necessarily worried, but the performance of a line that is potentially an 100% rebuild with no one at the position they held last season has to be a huge question mark. I don't have a problem with Wood or Levitre, or Hangartner for that matter, but since none of them will have worked together and all are relatively or completely inexperienced, no one is going to be able to rely on anyone else for much help in terms of assignments ore making adjustments to handle a defensve lineman who is making things difficult. I think the talent level is actually pretty good. Some have said leading up to the combine that Wood was not a great athlete, but the numbers at the combine seem to suggest he is actually a very good athlete. Levitre is prehaps not quite so athletic, has those now infamous short arms, and also faces a position change, having played tackle most of the time at Oregon. Still, all three interior linemen are considered to be extremely intelligent and have a reputation for toughness.

The biggest question marks for me are at tackle. Walker did play some left tackle in preseason last year, and did pretty well. We know, however, that preseason is not regular season, and the things defensive linemen may do during regular season in the way of running stunts may be challenging to him. I understand the most likely solution for right tackle is now considered to be Brad Butler. It's true he played tackle at Virginia and right tackle might be his most natural position, but he's been at guard now for a couple years now, so moving back out to tackle is yet another adjustment.

Overalll, it looks like the line may have more intelligent players. There's not a dimwit in the bunch. And it may have more toughness. Just the amount of change is somewhat daunting. I think it is critical for those the team deems as starters at the start of training camp to stay healthy and get a lot of reps in preseason so they can develop as much cohesiveness and chemistry as they can. If guys get hurt and have to switch around a lot, I think it's a recipe for disaster.

Wow, awesome post.

I'm not sure anyone can argue with this.

[Typ0]

There are a lot of people who see that we let Peters go and jump on the bandwagon we blew the draft when we didn't fill that position. Just says to me they are people who don't do their research and don't have any credibility as good media outlets. Anyone can restate the blatantly obvious and sometimes even the obvious is misleading.

[streetkings01]

And that scares me, when the Bills face a team with a speed rusher who has quick outside moves.Then we take our 2 ugly nasty and tough guards and run the damn football with Lynch/Jackson/Rhodes right at that D-end!

[Captain gameboy]

This entire fake industry of draft guessing and judging is a joke.

In the ACC last year, supposed experts picked the one/two/three guys as ACC players of the year.

Two of the three were never drafted. I believe one was signed as an UDFA, and I submit that it is a lot easier predicting success in one conference.

It is interesting, but it is a fake industry.

[billogic99]

The tackles for Buffalo are an issue no matter how we look at it. I'm not necessarily worried, but the performance of a line that is potentially an 100% rebuild with no one at the position they held last season has to be a huge question mark. I don't have a problem with Wood or Levitre, or Hangartner for that matter, but since none of them will have worked together and all are relatively or completely inexperienced, no one is going to be able to rely on anyone else for much help in terms of assignments ore making adjustments to handle a defensve lineman who is making things difficult. I think the talent level is actually pretty good. Some have said leading up to the combine that Wood was not a great athlete, but the numbers at the combine seem to suggest he is actually a very good athlete. Levitre is prehaps not quite so athletic, has those now infamous short arms, and also faces a position change, having played tackle most of the time at Oregon. Still, all three interior linemen are considered to be extremely intelligent and have a reputation for toughness.

The biggest question marks for me are at tackle. Walker did play some left tackle in preseason last year, and did pretty well. We know, however, that preseason is not regular season, and the things defensive linemen may do during regular season in the way of running stunts may be challenging to him. I understand the most likely solution for right tackle is now considered to be Brad Butler. It's true he played tackle at Virginia and right tackle might be his most natural position, but he's been at guard now for a couple years now, so moving back out to tackle is yet another adjustment.

Overalll, it looks like the line may have more intelligent players. There's not a dimwit in the bunch. And it may have more toughness. Just the amount of change is somewhat daunting. I think it is critical for those the team deems as starters at the start of training camp to stay healthy and get a lot of reps in preseason so they can develop as much cohesiveness and chemistry as they can. If guys get hurt and have to switch around a lot, I think it's a recipe for disaster.

Good post, question is how long will the fan base be patient? If this team starts out 2-3 or 2-4 are we gonna trash the team? Or are we gonna let the season unfold and actually wait to see if the line starts to gel and become a solid unit? I sure hope everyone understands it's a process and losing talent like Peters though inconsistent at times is hard to replace at one of the toughest positions in the league.

I think this is where the coaching staff needs to step up and creat a gameplan that may not blow anyones socks off, but will allow this team to compete even while losing. Miami figured out a way to win games with the wildcat, I'm not saying we need that, just the idea of making this team competitive while they get the continuity under control.

[Captain Obvious]

HH spent hours pouring over draft sites and sport websites hoping he could find one expert who had less than favourable things to say about the Bills draft

[Night Train]

My favorite was the Toronto paper the day before the draft stating the Bills had to get one of the 4 premier OT's or else !

On of the 4 OT's they listed was B.J. Raji.

[BillsWin]

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AFC East


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Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/;_ylt=AuOhBfhAyW1.WOfm.FeXsYHsYNAF)
Picks: LB Aaron Maybin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/;_ylt=AqdY1QvUW8WVdW.CwvZdVZvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/news;_ylt=AqeMeFHJm1_I71FzDnG3PGvsYNAF), C Eric Wood (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/;_ylt=AloN4XEqHk9JE_m1N6K3QCXsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/news;_ylt=AoDoafpg70bpYcVS2vDXg3TsYNAF), CB Jairus Byrd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/;_ylt=Amb4nH2iWCmlsb0P0eRsNCvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/news;_ylt=AtegN1BdP_pVNNSIDTkpGhfsYNAF), OL Andy Levitre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/;_ylt=AsfQD76nWEDjiSYjUIHJ.Q_sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/news;_ylt=AjKGSh4TeteD5sM2mvaIcTXsYNAF), TE Shawn Nelson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/;_ylt=AmmN6B9YccLVMJCqUjBn7O7sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/news;_ylt=AhxziweQf..xka98QktZhIjsYNAF), S Nic Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/;_ylt=AsKI6KvAxGvM71BdSlN.T1rsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/news;_ylt=Atmh768SwGuE4Fv.HIFSPv_sYNAF), CB Cary Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/;_ylt=As9O.ViYD4J_n7F8GkYMJAHsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/news;_ylt=ArWm32yYTsPe6N.WVySUhGrsYNAF), DB Ellis Lankster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/;_ylt=AuAnHQiVQ5MuG5nRqbQGhPLsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/news;_ylt=AswTdqtXWitlG1PqC_x1DOHsYNAF).
Positives: Maybin, Byrd.
Negative: Wood.
Bottom line: C-.
Considering the recent trade of Jason Peters (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/;_ylt=AgrojT3k44wmMYFOuzHyBQrsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/news;_ylt=As49WI_BduNS5C_7EM.65vjsYNAF), this is a pretty mediocre draft. Maybin is a dynamic, pass-rushing athlete the Bills haven’t had at linebacker since the days of Bryce Paup. The downside with Maybin is he hasn’t played that much and spent only one year as a starter at Penn State. If the Bills can keep defensive end Aaron Schobel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/;_ylt=Av9LdS.UrWLN7ZKi3tVzgEbsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/news;_ylt=AqcwROw2x.DqVRaHO9n2V8rsYNAF) healthy, Maybin could team with him and fellow defensive end Chris Kelsay (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/;_ylt=AmUljwz_urgRu76URDiY6TPsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/news;_ylt=AtCvZ9krImXuDeBlMvjPzRDsYNAF) to give the team a dynamic pass rush. Byrd is an interception machine, finishing his career at Oregon with 17, and gives the Bills some much-needed depth in the secondary. However, neither Wood nor Levitre are great athletes, even by offensive line standards, and appear to be reaches.


Ignore it. The guy is a moron. Byrd will most likely start FS, Wood and Levitre were at the very top of their positional rankings, Levitre was rated as the best pure guard in the entire draft, beating out Duke Robinson for the spot. Wood is one of the most aggressive, athletic centers to come out in a while and ranks right up there with Mack, Unger and Caldwell. This guy is an idiot, he is trying to cover up his lack of Bills knowledge and is using stereotypes of this franchise to make unfounded assumptions. I trust Trent Dilfer's opinion over this writers. "neither Wood nor Levitre are great athletes..." give me a break, get your facts straight. I dont even think this guy looked at the entire draft. To not mention the incredible value and talent we got with the Nelson pick in the fourth lost any credibility the man had left. I dont care if some writer gives the Bills an F- - ---- . That isn't what upsets me. What upsets me is when people make assumptions about the Bills drafts and make blatently ignorant statements because they see the Bills franchise as an after thought. "Oh, it is just the Bills so I won't research their picks before I run my keyboard all over the place."

Who cares what anyone grades us anyways. What matters is this, the Bills went into this draft with several needs. In rounds 1-5 they took care of the vast majority of them and in a smart and strategic way. The team got loads better in one weekend, and grabbed some good talent. EVEN THOUGH THEY NEGLECTED REPLACING PETERS, I think this team is still better after this past weekend.

I doubt many can refute that. Does anyone see what I'm saying???????

[DynaPaul]

This same dildo loved the draft by New England and two teams with strong ties to the Patriots. That'd be Kansas City (Pioli) and Cleveland (Mangina).

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

these turds continue to give belecheat oral sex for anything he does.

[HHURRICANE]

HH spent hours pouring over draft sites and sport websites hoping he could find one expert who had less than favourable things to say about the Bills draft

It was on the front page of Yahoo sports this AM.

As someone wisely pointed out even if we get an A+++ from Bill Parcells it means squat until we field a team.

We have Ellison as a starter and two guys trying to play OT positions that they haven't suceeded at in the NFL.

Sorry but it still looks like 7-9....again. But you guys will blame it on Jauron, we'll hire a new coach next year, and hope will spring eternal yet again.

[MikeInRoch]

So if it doesn't matter, why did you bother posting it?

Besides, didn't you quit being a fan?

[Goobylal]

Who cares what the "experts" think about the Bills' draft? Or that someone, out of dozens of "experts" who did like the Bills' draft, didn't like it? The proof will be in the pudding.

[HHURRICANE]

So if it doesn't matter, why did you bother posting it?

Besides, didn't you quit being a fan?

Because there were a zillion posts with "so and so loved our draft", etc., etc. etc. I opened Yahoo this AM and there it was.

I didn't know this was "Bills-good news only-zone".

It was an article on the Bills draft so I posted it.

As far as the fan stuff, papacrunk, lt. fin-fan, and NE39, post on here all of the time. I'm changing my avatar in the next few days if the Bills do nothing so don't worry about me keeping my word.

By the way, for the 50th time, I never said I'm leaving the zone just not investing time on a team that is more interested in making money than winning games.

[MikeInRoch]

Baloney. You posted it because you felt a need to show that someone supported your position.

[SABURZFAN]

so he didn't like the Bills draft. big friggin deal!!!!! we'll find out 3-4 years down the road.

[Mitchell55]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApOUy8SltJjJrwChTDrlVybhMMQF?slug=jc-09afcdraftgrades042709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


AFC East


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Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/;_ylt=AuOhBfhAyW1.WOfm.FeXsYHsYNAF)
Picks: LB Aaron Maybin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/;_ylt=AqdY1QvUW8WVdW.CwvZdVZvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9275/news;_ylt=AqeMeFHJm1_I71FzDnG3PGvsYNAF), C Eric Wood (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/;_ylt=AloN4XEqHk9JE_m1N6K3QCXsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9292/news;_ylt=AoDoafpg70bpYcVS2vDXg3TsYNAF), CB Jairus Byrd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/;_ylt=Amb4nH2iWCmlsb0P0eRsNCvsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9306/news;_ylt=AtegN1BdP_pVNNSIDTkpGhfsYNAF), OL Andy Levitre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/;_ylt=AsfQD76nWEDjiSYjUIHJ.Q_sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9315/news;_ylt=AjKGSh4TeteD5sM2mvaIcTXsYNAF), TE Shawn Nelson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/;_ylt=AmmN6B9YccLVMJCqUjBn7O7sYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9385/news;_ylt=AhxziweQf..xka98QktZhIjsYNAF), S Nic Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/;_ylt=AsKI6KvAxGvM71BdSlN.T1rsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9411/news;_ylt=Atmh768SwGuE4Fv.HIFSPv_sYNAF), CB Cary Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/;_ylt=As9O.ViYD4J_n7F8GkYMJAHsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9447/news;_ylt=ArWm32yYTsPe6N.WVySUhGrsYNAF), DB Ellis Lankster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/;_ylt=AuAnHQiVQ5MuG5nRqbQGhPLsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9484/news;_ylt=AswTdqtXWitlG1PqC_x1DOHsYNAF).
Positives: Maybin, Byrd.
Negative: Wood.
Bottom line: C-.
Considering the recent trade of Jason Peters (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/;_ylt=AgrojT3k44wmMYFOuzHyBQrsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7122/news;_ylt=As49WI_BduNS5C_7EM.65vjsYNAF), this is a pretty mediocre draft. Maybin is a dynamic, pass-rushing athlete the Bills haven’t had at linebacker since the days of Bryce Paup. The downside with Maybin is he hasn’t played that much and spent only one year as a starter at Penn State. If the Bills can keep defensive end Aaron Schobel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/;_ylt=Av9LdS.UrWLN7ZKi3tVzgEbsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5493/news;_ylt=AqcwROw2x.DqVRaHO9n2V8rsYNAF) healthy, Maybin could team with him and fellow defensive end Chris Kelsay (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/;_ylt=AmUljwz_urgRu76URDiY6TPsYNAF)http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/fn/default/full/p_note.gif (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6384/news;_ylt=AtCvZ9krImXuDeBlMvjPzRDsYNAF) to give the team a dynamic pass rush. Byrd is an interception machine, finishing his career at Oregon with 17, and gives the Bills some much-needed depth in the secondary. However, neither Wood nor Levitre are great athletes, even by offensive line standards, and appear to be reaches.



Leave it to DR. A-Hole to point out the only negetive report. Not only this but he thinks Byrd was our best pick and Wood and Levitre werent good picks. Also, there Gs. They arent supposed to be athletic. Whens the last time you saw Rueben or Hull listed under athletic, never.

[Mitchell55]

Also, no position is right. Maybin- DE, Wood-G, Byrd-S, Harris- LB.

[HHURRICANE]

Baloney. You posted it because you felt a need to show that someone supported your position.

Where did I post that I hated the draft?

If I were to grade it I'd give it a solid B and I might have gone higher if they hadn't got all DB happy.

The guy gave us a C-.

[Mitchell55]

Where did I post that I hated the draft?

If I were to grade it I'd give it a solid B and I might have gone higher if they hadn't got all DB happy.

The guy gave us a C-.



Yes but the guy wrote BS. He complained that Wood and Levitre were so so picks because there not athletic. There Gs, who care about athletic.

[HHURRICANE]

Yes but the guy wrote BS. He complained that Wood and Levitre were so so picks because there not athletic. There Gs, who care about athletic.

Yeah, if there is an article that says Jim Kelly was overrated I'd post that too. It doesn't mean that I beleive that. People needs to stop being pusses around here

[Mitchell55]

Yeah, if there is an article that says Jim Kelly was overrated I'd post that too. It doesn't mean that I beleive that. People needs to stop being pusses around here


We just expect that you believed it since you have been a pest lately with negetivly. Jumping the gun, sorry.

[B-DON]

"Maybin is a dynamic, pass-rushing athlete the Bills haven’t had at linebacker since the days of Bryce Paup."


he does know maybin is playing de right?

[Vanilla Thunder]

looks to me like this guy only like the byrd pick, which everyone else thought sucked