Most Intriguing Dark Horse Bills Players

[Mahdi]

I was just looking over the Bills roster and there are a few names that stuck out to me as potential contributors who we may not see coming....

P.K. Sam -WR- We have a lot of receivers but this guy has great size (6'3 217) and had pretty good production in college. The Pats drafted him 164th overall. He was a returner in college and ran out of the backfield as well. He could challenge Reed and Stevie for #3 and #4 spots.

Jonathan Scott - OT - Jonathan Scott was highly regarded coming out of Texas a couple years ago. Has real good size 6'6 318 and very athletic. He is going to get his shot in camp to win the battle for RT. Out of all the OTs he and Bell are the most athletic which gives him a chance.


Marcus Smith - DE/DT - Dont know much about this guy but there are definitely question marks at the DT spot for us. We have yet to find a guy who can be a penetrator. Marcus Smith has nice size at 6'4 295 and was a DE by trade. He probably has above average DT speed which could make him a nice fit as a 3-technique.

Chris Ellis - DE - If he gained enough from last season he might just be able to get a lot of playing time especially with Schobel's foot being a question mark. If Schobel misses any mini camp time or TC time Ellis will have a shot at surpassing Denney and Kelsay on the depth chart.


Vince Hall - LB - Vince was a stand out player at Va Tech. He was a tackling machine there and at 6'0 238 he is bigger than most of the LBs on our roster. He can definitely challenge for the OLB spot since it seems to be very much 'up in the air'.


Anyone have others to add?

[ddaryl]

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the million $$$ can't wait to see these guys in training camp questions ???

I sincerely hope a few of our projects make the step up, as I am sure the rest of you are too.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Most Intriguing Dark Horse Bills Players

I was just looking over the Bills roster and there are a few names that stuck out to me as potential contributors who we may not see coming....

P.K. Sam -WR- We have a lot of receivers but this guy has great size (6'3 217) and had pretty good production in college. The Pats drafted him 164th overall. He was a returner in college and ran out of the backfield as well. He could challenge Reed and Stevie for #3 and #4 spots.

Jonathan Scott - OT - Jonathan Scott was highly regarded coming out of Texas a couple years ago. Has real good size 6'6 318 and very athletic. He is going to get his shot in camp to win the battle for RT. Out of all the OTs he and Bell are the most athletic which gives him a chance.


Marcus Smith - DE/DT - Dont know much about this guy but there are definitely question marks at the DT spot for us. We have yet to find a guy who can be a penetrator. Marcus Smith has nice size at 6'4 295 and was a DE by trade. He probably has above average DT speed which could make him a nice fit as a 3-technique.

Chris Ellis - DE - If he gained enough from last season he might just be able to get a lot of playing time especially with Schobel's foot being a question mark. If Schobel misses any mini camp time or TC time Ellis will have a shot at surpassing Denney and Kelsay on the depth chart.


Vince Hall - LB - Vince was a stand out player at Va Tech. He was a tackling machine there and at 6'0 238 he is bigger than most of the LBs on our roster. He can definitely challenge for the OLB spot since it seems to be very much 'up in the air'.


Anyone have others to add?

I forgot they picked up Vince Hall during the season last season. I'm intrigued by this guy...would love to see him show something and win that job.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

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Vince Hall - LB - Vince was a stand out player at Va Tech. He was a tackling machine there and at 6'0 238 he is bigger than most of the LBs on our roster. He can definitely challenge for the OLB spot since it seems to be very much 'up in the air'.

I loved this pick-up last year and wanted him in the 4th round when he came out. He def is a sleeper to push Ellison, so is Buggs.

[Mr. Pink]

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PK Sam has been in the league or out of the league since 2004. He's played 4 games TOTAL. To even think of him as anything more than camp fodder is ludicrous.

Jonathan Scott was drafted in the 5th round by the Lions in 06. Hasn't ever seen an NFL field. Matt Millen was absolutely terrible in judging talent and drafting. However he does have nice size and from what I remember scouts did like his footwork.

Marcus Smith is 25 w/ 1 year of NFL experience, allegedly, considering he also has never seen the field.

I wouldn't expect any of the above to make the roster let alone see the field...

Vince Hall is intriguing based on what he did in VT. The dude was an integral part of a very good Hokie defense and just as good as Xavier Adibi. He does have speed and good insticts. Might end up being a good find.

And then obviously Chris Ellis who was our 3rd round pick last year.

A guy that I think could have an impact, not this year, but down the line as a darkhorse is Travis McCall. We like projects and he was an awesome blocker as a TE. I don't believe he'll ever be a TE at this level because he didn't have great hands but I could see the Bills trying to turn him into the next Jason Peters-esque project.

[Dr. Lecter]

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Jonathan Scott likely won't make the team, but he has started before so he has seen the field.

[Mr. Pink]

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Jonathan Scott likely won't make the team, but he has started before so he has seen the field.

Oops, my bad, apparently I researched the wrong player with him....22 games 6 starts.

[psubills62]

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PK Sam has been in the league or out of the league since 2004. He's played 4 games TOTAL. To even think of him as anything more than camp fodder is ludicrous.

Jonathan Scott was drafted in the 5th round by the Lions in 06. Hasn't ever seen an NFL field. Matt Millen was absolutely terrible in judging talent and drafting. However he does have nice size and from what I remember scouts did like his footwork.

Marcus Smith is 25 w/ 1 year of NFL experience, allegedly, considering he also has never seen the field.

I wouldn't expect any of the above to make the roster let alone see the field...

Vince Hall is intriguing based on what he did in VT. The dude was an integral part of a very good Hokie defense and just as good as Xavier Adibi. He does have speed and good insticts. Might end up being a good find.

And then obviously Chris Ellis who was our 3rd round pick last year.

A guy that I think could have an impact, not this year, but down the line as a darkhorse is Travis McCall. We like projects and he was an awesome blocker as a TE. I don't believe he'll ever be a TE at this level because he didn't have great hands but I could see the Bills trying to turn him into the next Jason Peters-esque project.

Jonathan Scott hasn't seen an NFL field? He played in 20 games and started 6 for the Lions during 2006 and 2007. I'm actually somewhat intrigued by Scott, and I wonder if he'll make the team.

[elltrain22]

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I was just looking over the Bills roster and there are a few names that stuck out to me as potential contributors who we may not see coming....

P.K. Sam -WR- We have a lot of receivers but this guy has great size (6'3 217) and had pretty good production in college. The Pats drafted him 164th overall. He was a returner in college and ran out of the backfield as well. He could challenge Reed and Stevie for #3 and #4 spots.

Probably a camp casualty. If we needed a return guy he might get a look, but we don't
Jonathan Scott - OT - Jonathan Scott was highly regarded coming out of Texas a couple years ago. Has real good size 6'6 318 and very athletic. He is going to get his shot in camp to win the battle for RT. Out of all the OTs he and Bell are the most athletic which gives him a chance.

I forgot we got this guy. He was pretty good in college, and if he works hard, he def' could help this team. If he was our starter at any point, I wouldn't be surprised
Marcus Smith - DE/DT - Dont know much about this guy but there are definitely question marks at the DT spot for us. We have yet to find a guy who can be a penetrator. Marcus Smith has nice size at 6'4 295 and was a DE by trade. He probably has above average DT speed which could make him a nice fit as a 3-technique.

Camp casualty

Chris Ellis - DE - If he gained enough from last season he might just be able to get a lot of playing time especially with Schobel's foot being a question mark. If Schobel misses any mini camp time or TC time Ellis will have a shot at surpassing Denney and Kelsay on the depth chart.

Can he live up to his potential?? Will we be patient w/ him, and can we coach him into an NFL caliber player?? I just don't see it, but who knows.

Vince Hall - LB - Vince was a stand out player at Va Tech. He was a tackling machine there and at 6'0 238 he is bigger than most of the LBs on our roster. He can definitely challenge for the OLB spot since it seems to be very much 'up in the air'.

This kid can play!! I live in ACC county, so I watch alot of ACC football, and I remember this kid. I hope he makes the team, b/c he has potential.Anyone have others to add?

Good post!!!!!!!!!!

[psubills62]

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I think one guy to add is Bruce Hall. I was completely unimpressed with his production coming out of college, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see him fighting Dominic Rhodes for the last RB spot. Rhodes has the edge due to experience and third down blocking ability, but Hall showed some good moves and ability last preseason, I do believe.

[Tatonka]

Re: Most Intriguing Dark Horse Bills Players

I was just looking over the Bills roster and there are a few names that stuck out to me as potential contributors who we may not see coming....

P.K. Sam -WR- We have a lot of receivers but this guy has great size (6'3 217) and had pretty good production in college. The Pats drafted him 164th overall. He was a returner in college and ran out of the backfield as well. He could challenge Reed and Stevie for #3 and #4 spots.

Jonathan Scott - OT - Jonathan Scott was highly regarded coming out of Texas a couple years ago. Has real good size 6'6 318 and very athletic. He is going to get his shot in camp to win the battle for RT. Out of all the OTs he and Bell are the most athletic which gives him a chance.


Marcus Smith - DE/DT - Dont know much about this guy but there are definitely question marks at the DT spot for us. We have yet to find a guy who can be a penetrator. Marcus Smith has nice size at 6'4 295 and was a DE by trade. He probably has above average DT speed which could make him a nice fit as a 3-technique.

Chris Ellis - DE - If he gained enough from last season he might just be able to get a lot of playing time especially with Schobel's foot being a question mark. If Schobel misses any mini camp time or TC time Ellis will have a shot at surpassing Denney and Kelsay on the depth chart.


Vince Hall - LB - Vince was a stand out player at Va Tech. He was a tackling machine there and at 6'0 238 he is bigger than most of the LBs on our roster. He can definitely challenge for the OLB spot since it seems to be very much 'up in the air'.


Anyone have others to add?

wow.. i didnt realize we had signed vince hall. he was great in college..

[OpIv37]

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what about Alvin Bowen? There was some buzz about him last year before his injury. It would be nice if he could step up since we're so thin at LB.

[Pinkerton Security]

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Yeah I definitely think Buggs, Bowen and Hall could all push Ellison, and I'd like to see Ellis make strides obviously.

[The Spaz]

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Some info on Vince Hall from last years draft.

http://www.craveonline.com/sportsteam/article/2008-nfl-draft-vince-hall-67209

[Dr. Lecter]

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what about Alvin Bowen? There was some buzz about him last year before his injury. It would be nice if he could step up since we're so thin at LB.

Bowen was praised by Paul Hamilton last year.

Paul Hamilton is a reporter for WGR who tends to be negative on the Bills, so when he says a guy looks good it means something.