Bills 2009 Draft Review

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Ingtar33
    Dances With Buffaloes
    • Sep 2002
    • 15469

    Bills 2009 Draft Review

    Ok, as promised earlier, I figured I'd toss out a small review of what I thought about the Bills picks.

    1) Aaron Maybin - Best pure pass rushing end in the draft, with an almost inhuman jump on the snap. I know the knock on him is his weight, but lets not forget that Javon Kearse is almost the exact same size. If Maybin can give us the 10 sacks Kearse gave the Titans in his rookie year then this will be a defensive rookie of the year type pick. While he has a pretty developed pass rush toolkit, his hands aren't great, which makes this pick not a lock (bad hands means OTs probably will be able to engulf him). He is really raw, with a lot of upside. So depending on his drive to improve he'll either be a steal at 11, or a bust. Orakpo was a physical wonder, and well rounded as well, but he was no where near the passrusher Maybin is. Pretty good pick.

    Grade: B+ If his hands were better, I'd rate this higher, but really, you can't argue with grabbing the best pure passrusher in the draft (frankly the best pure passrusher at DE since Peppers came out) after watching that joke of a passrush last year. I'm frankly stunned he wasn't taken before 11. Possible day 1 starter (would be higher if i thought he was an every down player out of the gate)

    ---------------------

    2) Eric Wood - For my money he was the best Center in the draft. Yes, he's a little limited in space, not getting to the 2nd level as easily as Mack or Unger, but his intangibles are first rate. This guy is mean, tough, and smart. He's also a bit better of a run blocker then either Mack or Unger. Hartinger, while penciled in as starter at Center will likely be moved to Guard before the season is through, with Wood ending up in the middle. First day starter on the line. love the pick.

    Grade: A About time the bills address the center of their line. A decade later then i would like, but this is a great pick.

    ---------------------

    3) Jairus Byrd - He killed himself in the combine with a poor 40 time, but when you watch him play, he doesn't play anything like a player with 4.6 40 time. He's got great break on the ball, good hands, and has great instincts. In short, with a 4.4 40 time, he would have gone in the top 15 picks. The Bills say he'll play safety, i think as a ball hawking free safety he'll probably thrive. Before the draft i would have summed him up as an ideal 2 deep zone DB... we'll see if that's the case.

    Grade: B Probable day 1 starter at FS in round 2, you can't ask for better. Possibly limited physically is the only warning sign.

    ---------------------

    4) Andy Levitre - Great late 2nd round pickup... more then worth the trade up, he was clearly the best pure guard in this draft, with a mean attitude and viscous demeanor in run blocking he'll quickly become a fan favorite. Yet another day 1 starter from what seems like a great draft.

    Grade: A+ Simply put a great pickup, no one better to be had here.

    ---------------------

    5) Shawn Nelson - Amazing day 2 steal, Nelson was hands down the most talented receiving TE in the draft. He runs great routs, has great speed, and great hands. Reminds me a lot of Shanon Sharpe, who was built the same, and was just as forgettable a run blocker when he came out of college. If he can get even average in the run blocking game he'll be an instant starter, as his receiving skills are heads and shoulders better then any of the other tight ends we have on the roster.

    Grade: A Great late round steal, he should be an instant contributor, and possible day 1 starter.

    ---------------------

    6) Nic Harris - This pick intrigued me, as anyone who watched the Sooners couldn't possibly miss Harris flying around the field. In some ways he reminded me of Roy Williams (not quite as good), as he played what basically amounts to a position similar to the 46 defense's SS in the Sooners defense. The word is the Bills plan to move him to Sam, which would be a good fit for his skills, especially in a Tampa 2, which needs OLBs who can move fast and have good ball skills. You could wish for a little more size, but his frame leaves him with a good 10 pounds to be added without too much problem, so maybe that's not much of a concern. The interesting thing about this pick will be how he takes to the Sam position, because he certainly has the coverage skills to start day 1 (especially when you consider he'll be competing with Ellison)

    Grade: B- This would be a B+ if he actually played some OLB in college. I wish he was a little faster, but you can't deny he's got a good nose for the football, and some well developed pass rushing skills. Project pick, which might turn out pretty good in the end.

    ---------------------

    Cary Harris He has the look of a classic cover 2 DB. Not sure what the bills will do with him though. Probably a depth pick up or special teams fodder, im not sure if there is a lot of room for him on the roster, but you never know. Fairly polished, there isn't a lot he can do technique wise to get better. Might be better off at one of the safety positions, but you can't deny he's built just like most Tampa 2 CBs... 5'8"-5'10" 180.

    Grade: C- His physical limits might make this a wasted pick... I know im asking for a lot from a 6th round pick, but i would have liked it more if we grabbed someone who was less polished and had more physical tools.

    ---------------------

    Ellis Lankster What i wrote for Cary Harris could be said about Lankster, though i think he is slightly more physically gifted, and slightly less polished technically. Like Harris, i don't know if he'd make a better safety or CB, but he does fit a zone scheme better then a man. I suspect he was drafted for depth at SS. But that's just a personal hunch.

    Grade: C+ Not a bad pick, nothing to write home about, he'll have some difficult making the final squad unless he can excel on special teams, or make the jump to Safety.



    Overall Draft Grade: A-

    You can't argue with a draft where we grabbed 3 certain (possibly as many as 5) day 1 starters. Overall i think the Bills made themselves a much better football team, filling a lot of glaring gaps in their roster, and adding a little depth as well.
    Last edited by Ingtar33; 05-01-2009, 08:27 PM.
    My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

    MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!
  • The Spaz
    Registered User
    • Mar 2003
    • 19066

    #2
    Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

    Very nice thanks!

    Comment

    • hammerbillsfan
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 17878

      #3
      Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

      good insight Ingtar!

      Comment

      • casdhf
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 17542

        #4
        Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

        Ralph is cheap!
        Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
        cas,

        I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

        BillsZone Mod

        Comment

        • elltrain22
          Registered User
          • Sep 2003
          • 4281

          #5
          Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

          Great insight!! So exciting to hear so many rave reviews about Wood & Levitre. 135 more days!!!
          If you walk with Jesus today, you don't have anything to worry about tomorrow...

          Comment

          • Goobylal
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 19367

            #6
            Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

            Originally posted by Ingtar33
            Ok, as promised earlier, I figured I'd toss out a small review of what I thought about the Bills picks.

            1) Aaron Maybin - Best pure pass rushing end in the draft, with an almost inhuman jump on the snap. I know the knock on him is his weight, but lets not forget that Javon Kearse is almost the exact same size. If Maybin can give us the 10 sacks Kearse gave the Titans in his rookie year then this will be a defensive rookie of the year type pick. While he has a pretty developed pass rush toolkit, his hands aren't great, which makes this pick not a lock (bad hands means OTs probably will be able to engulf him). He is really raw, with a lot of upside. So depending on his drive to improve he'll either be a steal at 11, or a bust. Orakpo was a physical wonder, and well rounded as well, but he was no where near the passrusher Maybin is. Pretty good pick.
            Proper hand usage can be taught. Jump on the ball, not so much.

            Comment

            • Devin
              The Octagon
              • Apr 2003
              • 23878

              #7
              Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

              was waiting for this! Great writeup man!
              http://gridironjunkies.net/forums/index.php

              Comment

              • yordad
                Registered User
                • Dec 2007
                • 11867

                #8
                Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                1st Maybin- I would rather have had Orakpo. I hope I was wrong because I am all aboard the Maybin Express now. Time will tell.

                B

                Last 1st Wood- Not bad. I was expecting Eben Britton (OT), Patrick Chung (s) might have been alright. I was very surprised Everette Brown was still available, and he was who I really wanted here. Time will tell here, but this is a solid

                B

                2nd Jarius Byrd- Huh? I really, really wanted Brown here. I mean seriously? I would also have like OLB Clint Sintim. Either would have been a steal. Byrd has got some serious impressing to do. After hearing they plan to make him a safety, it takes some sting off this

                D

                Late 2nd Any Levitre- This would have been a solid pick... if we didn't just draft one guard. I assumed they were trading up for Phil Loadholt (OT), but I was clearly wrong. Levitre is solid,but they could have stayed pat and still got a good lineman in Caldwell, Vasquez, or Kraig Urbik. Admittedly, I would have used the 3rd round on Jared Cook, so I wouldn't have been perfect either. No one could have predicted they would get Nelson in the late 4th.

                In the 4th they could have gotten Cornerback D.J. Moore who was considered by many to be 1st round talent. He could have saved some money when it comes to re-signing Mcgee. The Bears got a huge steal here. I probably would have taken Marcus Freeman (OLB) though, because I wouldn't have know he would be still available one round later (the Bears got him too).

                D

                Late 4th Shawn Nelson- Oh my I was hoping he would fall.

                A++

                5th Nic Harris- Another project? Why not just draft a guy who played OLB if they wanted an OLB. This should have been Freeman, all day. At least they took a OLB.

                C-

                Past this, I think it would have been nice to grad a FB. Brannan Southerland went undrafted. He would have been a day one starter here. In stead we got some no-chancers.

                Overall- C
                Last edited by yordad; 05-02-2009, 01:46 PM.
                "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

                Comment

                • The Spaz
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 19066

                  #9
                  Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                  This is Ingtar's report not yours yordad. Make your own bashing thread.

                  Comment

                  • ghz in pittsburgh
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 5861

                    #10
                    Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                    Did you guys read Chris Brown's blog today about Maybin's feet? Size 15!

                    Ever seen a speed skater's blades? A mile long. The more contact with the surface the more push off you get. Looks like there is a legit reason why he comes off the block faster than everyone else and it can't be taught.

                    Comment

                    • Ingtar33
                      Dances With Buffaloes
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 15469

                      #11
                      Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                      not bad Yordad. But i think the difference in how we view this draft is based purely on perception.

                      by your comments you clearly thought the inside of the bills o-line was alright.

                      I do not. In fact, since the turn of the decade the inside of our line has been consistently poor. I was thrilled to see the bills address this, rather then draft yet another tackle. (Part of the problem the Bills have had with the OL is that we fill all 5 spots with tackles. Simply put, we rarely had guys on the line who actually played inside durring college. The result is we often had "soft" hearts to our lines, with guards and centers who couldn't handle bull rushes, or couldn't get into the 2nd level particularly well). When you add Hartinger and McKinney to the mix we have 4 "true" inside the tackle linemen, for the first time in a decade. We'll be moving the poorly miscast RG Butler (who never played guard in college, and it showed) back outside where he belongs. That's positive as far as im concerned.

                      Now, the final question becomes, do you trust Walker at LT? That's the million dollar question. I don't know if im thrilled with that idea, but i would rather 4 strong linemen, and one weak one, then 3 or 4 weak linemen and 1 strong one, like it looked like we were going to have before the draft (even if the weak one is LT).

                      I think we went a long way toward laying the foundation for a fantastic offensive line.

                      Now the players have to go out there and do it.
                      My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

                      MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

                      Comment

                      • Goobylal
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 19367

                        #12
                        Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33
                        not bad Yordad. But i think the difference in how we view this draft is based purely on perception.

                        by your comments you clearly thought the inside of the bills o-line was alright.

                        I do not. In fact, since the turn of the decade the inside of our line has been consistently poor. I was thrilled to see the bills address this, rather then draft yet another tackle. (Part of the problem the Bills have had with the OL is that we fill all 5 spots with tackles. Simply put, we rarely had guys on the line who actually played inside durring college. The result is we often had "soft" hearts to our lines, with guards and centers who couldn't handle bull rushes, or couldn't get into the 2nd level particularly well). When you add Hartinger and McKinney to the mix we have 4 "true" inside the tackle linemen, for the first time in a decade. We'll be moving the poorly miscast RG Butler (who never played guard in college, and it showed) back outside where he belongs. That's positive as far as im concerned.

                        Now, the final question becomes, do you trust Walker at LT? That's the million dollar question. I don't know if im thrilled with that idea, but i would rather 4 strong linemen, and one weak one, then 3 or 4 weak linemen and 1 strong one, like it looked like we were going to have before the draft (even if the weak one is LT).

                        I think we went a long way toward laying the foundation for a fantastic offensive line.

                        Now the players have to go out there and do it.
                        Butler has been one of the best players the past couple years. I'm curious to see what he can do at RT. And it's Hangartner, not Hartinger.

                        Comment

                        • Ingtar33
                          Dances With Buffaloes
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 15469

                          #13
                          Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                          Originally posted by Goobylal
                          Butler has been one of the best players the past couple years. I'm curious to see what he can do at RT. And it's Hangartner, not Hartinger.

                          good call on hangarter... lol.

                          Butler has only looked good because the center and the LG opposite him have looked so bad. in reality he was a bellow average or mediocre guard, but in his spot action as a tackle i've loved him.
                          My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

                          MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

                          Comment

                          • yordad
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 11867

                            #14
                            Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                            Originally posted by The Spaz
                            This is Ingtar's report not yours yordad. Make your own bashing thread.
                            What, were we all supposed to make our own "Bills 2009 Draft Review" thread? I thought the right thing to do would be to just post it here.
                            "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

                            "I've just been hit with a piece of sky. " ~ yordad

                            "Forgive my opinion, but...." ~ yordad

                            "Warning: I might be hammered." ~ yordad

                            "I don't care if the word is "your" or "you're", so buzz off. Its (it's) a frickin(') message board." ~ yordad

                            Comment

                            • The Spaz
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 19066

                              #15
                              Re: Bills 2009 Draft Review

                              Originally posted by yordad
                              What, were we all supposed to make our own "Bills 2009 Draft Review" thread? I thought the right thing to do would be to just post it here.
                              Why not make your own is all I'm saying. That way people can review just your report.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X