There is only guy that can buy the team and keep it in Buffalo.

[HHURRICANE]

Okay, I just read another ridiculous post with someone alluding to Jim Kelly buying the team. I will make it my mission to go on the offense when I read these posts.

Jim Kelly will never, ever, be an owner, partial owner, etc. of the Buffalo Bills. Period.

If you want the Bills to stay in Buffalo the only guy that has the resources and fiscal smarts to do it is Jeremy Jacobs.

He is the only person that has the money and the ability to take advantage of not moving the team and run it at a profit.

If you want a realistic scenario this is the one that makes sense.

[Nighthawk]

I'm thinking that you need to relax and stop acting like a douchebag. Everybody (except you, it seems) wants to keep the hope alive that somebody will step in and save this franchise for this city. I have no problem with people trying to keep positive about this and will not call others out for hoping it happens. It just seems a little ridiculous to me.

[psubills62]

If we can thank certain posts, why can't we boo them too?

[seanbillsfan]

If we can thank certain posts, why can't we boo them too?
We used to be able to, i really miss that

[elltrain22]

Whether is Jim Kelly, Jeremy whoever, or Joe Schmo the Bills ain't going anywhere!! I Billieve

[psubills62]

We used to be able to, i really miss that

I guess I wasn't around for that...it's too bad. There's a lot of people I wish I could boo.

[ddaryl]

I guess I wasn't around for that...it's too bad. There's a lot of people I wish I could boo.


All you have to do to boo/groan/ dissaprove a post is too click http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/images/bzstyle2/buttons/reputation.gif icon in the lower right hand of a post then select the "I dissaprove" button and put in a comment. This will subtract the full amount of your rep power from that posters rep. The opposite if you click approve

the only issue with this is that is all donation members and website personell have the ability to see you left them rep, and usually people who get a negative rep return a revenge rep.. so if your up agianst someone who has more rep then you you end up losing that battle.

I've debated the need for anonymous repping so the rep function actually works and would shield peopel from being revenged negged but that fell to the wayside.

[kid mickey]

You can't take shots at people and not expect them to not want to take shots at you. It would be unfair. You steal somebodies rep and they couldn't do the same to you that's no good man. That's devious.

[Yasgur's Farm]

I'm thinking that you need to relax and stop acting like a douchebag. Everybody (except you, it seems) wants to keep the hope alive that somebody will step in and save this franchise for this city. I have no problem with people trying to keep positive about this and will not call others out for hoping it happens. It just seems a little ridiculous to me.HH is a Pats fan now. :limpclap:

[Bert102176]

dude ya need ta chill with the BS or get lost, hell ya all know how I feel about the dolphins and even thier fans on here aren't nearly as bad we come here to talk about the Bills and have hope and don't need you trying to change that. stop being a douche

[THATHURMANATOR]

This thread is a steaming piece of ****.

[Canadian'eh!]

Jeremy Jacobs is an absolute cheapskate. If you think Ralph is bad....

The ONLY reason the Bruins are relevant again right now is because of the cap that requires him to use most of it, as per the collective agreement.

He spent YEARS selling off any talent the Bruins had or letting them walk as opposed to paying any bigger contracts. He knew the Bruins would always draw and he was ONLY about making a profit from the team.

He'd be like Ralph on steroids.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Plus HH has no way of proving any of this so he is free to spout nonsense as always.

[BillsWin]

Why can't we hold out hope HH? Hell, signing T.O was just about as far-fetched as a community buying effort led by Kelly but we got it done. ;)

[THATHURMANATOR]

Why can't we hold out hope HH? Hell, signing T.O was just about as far-fetched as a community buying effort led by Kelly but we got it done. ;)
Trust HH. He has no idea or way of proving anything but he is certainly correct.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I just printed out this thread and wiped my ass with it.

[ddaryl]

You can't take shots at people and not expect them to not want to take shots at you. It would be unfair. You steal somebodies rep and they couldn't do the same to you that's no good man. That's devious.

you could if it was anonymous like it should be.

[Kelly The Dog]

As of last September, Bob Rich, Jr. was worth 2.1 billion.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/54/400list08_Robert-Rich-Jr_DR48.html
He could do it easily.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I just printed out this thread and wiped my ass with it.
Your posts are in the thread too you know.

[DMBcrew36]

Okay, I just read another ridiculous post with someone alluding to Jim Kelly buying the team. I will make it my mission to go on the offense when I read these posts.

Jim Kelly will never, ever, be an owner, partial owner, etc. of the Buffalo Bills. Period.

If you want the Bills to stay in Buffalo the only guy that has the resources and fiscal smarts to do it is Jeremy Jacobs.

He is the only person that has the money and the ability to take advantage of not moving the team and run it at a profit.

If you want a realistic scenario this is the one that makes sense.

Yes, Jim Kelly is not wealthy enough to buy the team. However, he could bring the right group together to make it happen.

And also, the Bob Rich has enough money to buy the team. I've been to his house in Canada a few times - one of a list of places he owns.

[jimbohastle51]

we have a few things going for us that have a say in the team staying. A) we are really the only team to play in NY. B) we sell out every home game (better marketing and better merchandise would help as well). C) the commissioner has come out and said he wants the team to stay in buffalo and of course wants historical teams to stay in place. D) he is from the only a couple hours away from the buffalo.
its one thing when a team like jacksonville moves (a team that isnt tradition rich and has struggled from the begining of there exsistance to even sell tickets). its a whole other thing to let a team that is part of the foundation of the league to leave when they sell out every home game, have a loyal fan base and are doing everything in there power to grow and stretch there region. all i am saying is there will be every opportunity and as much leadway as could possibly be given to keep the bills in buffalo. remember most teams sell because the owner wants to move them or sell them. we are a special case. our owner wants the team here and doesnt want his legacy to end with his death.

[soapman]

Yeah douche

[SabreEleven]

Galisano could buy the Bills and than step out of the way of the real Football people...A tough lesson he learned ruining, err, I mean, running the Buffalo Sabres...

[HHURRICANE]

I'm thinking that you need to relax and stop acting like a douchebag. Everybody (except you, it seems) wants to keep the hope alive that somebody will step in and save this franchise for this city. I have no problem with people trying to keep positive about this and will not call others out for hoping it happens. It just seems a little ridiculous to me.

I'm negative because I proposed a MORE realistic scenario?

Jacobs would be a blessing becuase he would keep the team in Buffalo most likely.

When people throw out Kelly as a potential owner they don't know what they are talking about. Name me the players in the last 20 years that have current ownership in the league?

[Michael82]

Sorry. But you are wrong. There are several people who are/were Western NYers that could buy the Bills... jacobs, Rich, Golisano. You also cant count out some out of state person that is a Bills fan and just wants to own the team. Isn't that kinda what happened in Minnesota?

[Saratoga Slim]

I'm negative because I proposed a MORE realistic scenario?

Jacobs would be a blessing becuase he would keep the team in Buffalo most likely.

When people throw out Kelly as a potential owner they don't know what they are talking about. Name me the players in the last 20 years that have current ownership in the league?

You proposed the scenario of Jacobs having the cash to buy the Bills, which is indeed more likely than Kelly doing so.

But the problem with your post is you said it was the ONLY possible scenario - "there is only one guy that can buy the team...."

It's true - Kelly doesn't have the cash to buy the Bills on his own, or probably even to be a meaningful capital partner in a group purchase. But there are a lot of other scenarios that might come to pass. For instance, Golisano, Rich etc. are western-NY guys with Jacobs-style money.

I'm frankly a little skeptical that either of those guys will step up. However, who says that the new owner would have to live in or be from western NY? Our current owner lives in Michigan, and he's not moving the team. It's very possible that someone from NYC or elsewhere would see the Bills as a worthy investment right where they are--without having to relocate them.

Bottom line - Jacobs is NOT the only person that could buy the Bills and keep them here.

[HHURRICANE]

You proposed the scenario of Jacobs having the cash to buy the Bills, which is indeed more likely than Kelly doing so.

But the problem with your post is you said it was the ONLY possible scenario - "there is only one guy that can buy the team...."

It's true - Kelly doesn't have the cash to buy the Bills on his own, or probably even to be a meaningful capital partner in a group purchase. But there are a lot of other scenarios that might come to pass. For instance, Golisano, Rich etc. are western-NY guys with Jacobs-style money.

I'm frankly a little skeptical that either of those guys will step up. However, who says that the new owner would have to live in or be from western NY? Our current owner lives in Michigan, and he's not moving the team. It's very possible that someone from NYC or elsewhere would see the Bills as a worthy investment right where they are--without having to relocate them.

Bottom line - Jacobs is NOT the only person that could buy the Bills and keep them here.

Plenty of people have the money to buy the team. No argument there.

How many can or are willing to buy the team. Keep it in Buffalo, can make a profit in the process, and are content to do so.

If I looked at this as purely a business deal, and not being a Buffalo fan, I'd move the team to LA. Bigger market, bigger revenue, ability to sell luxury boxes, bigger sponsors, etc.

Jacobs will run it like Ralph but better and he'll be able to service the debt and not have to relocate. Yeah, Jacobs isn't the perfect owner but the team stays and that was my point. He'll probably be able to service the debt just through concessions at the stadium.

[Michael82]

I'm sorry, HURRICANE. But I look at the Bills just like the Minnesota Vikings and there was someone there who was willing to spend the money to buy the Vikings and keep them in Minnesota, without even having a connection to the team and the city...Zygmunt Wilf. How do we know someone won't come to Buffalo and do this for us? They'd get a ton of fans and people loyal to whatever they sell.

Hell, don't tell me that if Donald Trump was looking for a team, he wouldn't be tempted to buy the Buffalo Bills, keep them in Buffalo. Build a state of the art Stadium downtown and then he could do what he does best....create a bunch of high rise buildings downtown and invest into the city. He'd be a hero for Buffalo people.

[Saratoga Slim]

Plenty of people have the money to buy the team. No argument there.

How many can or are willing to buy the team. Keep it in Buffalo, can make a profit in the process, and are content to do so.

If I looked at this as purely a business deal, and not being a Buffalo fan, I'd move the team to LA. Bigger market, bigger revenue, ability to sell luxury boxes, bigger sponsors, etc.

Jacobs will run it like Ralph but better and he'll be able to service the debt and not have to relocate. Yeah, Jacobs isn't the perfect owner but the team stays and that was my point. He'll probably be able to service the debt just through concessions at the stadium.

I agree - Jacobs is at least a decent option.

I'm hoping that the relocation fee, value as a historic franchise etc. will pose enough of an obstacle to keep them here for at least a while--until someone else (Jax, St. Louis...) gets moved to LA.

But I'm not really worried about LA. I think the more likely worst-case scenario at this point would be Toronto. It's a huge market, there's a decent chance of keeping some of the team's existing fan base involved, and there's already some ties between the team and the market. Seems more logical.

That said, I think relocation is far from a done deal. I'm still pretty optimistic that the Bills stay at home.

[SABuffalo786]

I'm negative because I proposed a MORE realistic scenario?

Jacobs would be a blessing becuase he would keep the team in Buffalo most likely.

When people throw out Kelly as a potential owner they don't know what they are talking about. Name me the players in the last 20 years that have current ownership in the league?


You're missing the point.

[SABuffalo786]

If I looked at this as purely a business deal, and not being a Buffalo fan, I'd move the team to LA. Bigger market, bigger revenue, ability to sell luxury boxes, bigger sponsors, etc.


So you'd move the team to a market that has failed TWICE already?

[DMBcrew36]

Sorry. But you are wrong. There are several people who are/were Western NYers that could buy the Bills... jacobs, Rich, Golisano. You also cant count out some out of state person that is a Bills fan and just wants to own the team. Isn't that kinda what happened in Minnesota?

Golisano would have to sell the Sabres. He would not be allowed to own both.

[HHURRICANE]

I'm sorry, HURRICANE. But I look at the Bills just like the Minnesota Vikings and there was someone there who was willing to spend the money to buy the Vikings and keep them in Minnesota, without even having a connection to the team and the city...Zygmunt Wilf. How do we know someone won't come to Buffalo and do this for us? They'd get a ton of fans and people loyal to whatever they sell.

Hell, don't tell me that if Donald Trump was looking for a team, he wouldn't be tempted to buy the Buffalo Bills, keep them in Buffalo. Build a state of the art Stadium downtown and then he could do what he does best....create a bunch of high rise buildings downtown and invest into the city. He'd be a hero for Buffalo people.

First off, I want to keep the team in Buffalo. Something that our current owner doesn't seem too motivated to have happen after he dies.

As for us getting a new stadium, that NY State would be involved with, good luck. They can't even fund their budget so where are the extra dollars coming from to do that?

Third, the local gov't is going to approve this? The same local government that couldn't get the Adelphia building built, a new bridge to Canada done, a Pro Bass outlet built, an agreement on a Casino that is sitting their half built.

That local government?

Jacobs, would probably refurb the current stadium and service his debt through concessions, etc. and tax incentives from the state. he could make it work. No new owner outside of Buffalo is going to want to deal with NY State and our corrupt local government.

[jnixon]

The other person is Tom Gollissano owner of the Buffalo Sabres.



Okay, I just read another ridiculous post with someone alluding to Jim Kelly buying the team. I will make it my mission to go on the offense when I read these posts.

Jim Kelly will never, ever, be an owner, partial owner, etc. of the Buffalo Bills. Period.

If you want the Bills to stay in Buffalo the only guy that has the resources and fiscal smarts to do it is Jeremy Jacobs.

He is the only person that has the money and the ability to take advantage of not moving the team and run it at a profit.

If you want a realistic scenario this is the one that makes sense.

[HHURRICANE]

The other person is Tom Gollissano owner of the Buffalo Sabres.

I do agree that he makes the short list and I felt that he was the guy a few years back.

He has to sell the Sabres.

I'm also not sure that he's as committed as everyone thinks around here. Have you heard anything new?

[THATHURMANATOR]

I do agree that he makes the short list and I felt that he was the guy a few years back.

He has to sell the Sabres.

I'm also not sure that he's as committed as everyone thinks around here. Have you heard anything new?
He doesn't have to sell the Sabres to buy the Bills.

[DMBcrew36]

He doesn't have to sell the Sabres to buy the Bills.

You're right. NFL rules used to disallow someone from cross-ownership in another major sports league. Now it is allowed as long as the other team is in the same city. So since the Sabres are in the same city as the Bills, it would be ok.

I didn't realize the NFL had loosened the rules on cross-ownership.

[justasportsfan]

]
You're right. NFL rules used to disallow someone from cross-ownership in another major sports league. Now it is allowed as long as the other team is in the same city. So since the Sabres are in the same city as the Bills, it would be ok.

I didn't realize the NFL had loosened the rules on cross-ownership.


He has to sell the Sabres.


If DMBcrew96 is right and HH didn't even know this then HH yapping out of his arse as usual.

[jnixon]

He is interested according to a very good source!

The problem is..... Ralph is not interested in seeling the team.

He may have already set up a special trust fund that would leave the team to his wife and his 2 other daughters, but it is impossible to verify because that information does not have to be furnished to anyone other than his lawyer.

[Dr. Lecter]

Galisano can own both teams (although he might need to sell the Sabes to have the cash flow to buy the Bills).

Jacobs, on the other had, would have to sell the Bruins.

The other problem, with either guy but especially Jacobs, is the age. Jacobs is in his 70's.

[Prov401]

Jeremy Jacobs is an absolute cheapskate. If you think Ralph is bad....

The ONLY reason the Bruins are relevant again right now is because of the cap that requires him to use most of it, as per the collective agreement.

He spent YEARS selling off any talent the Bruins had or letting them walk as opposed to paying any bigger contracts. He knew the Bruins would always draw and he was ONLY about making a profit from the team.

He'd be like Ralph on steroids.

I live in New England, and follow the Bruins. And this post is absolutley accurate. We would be lucky if we could challenge Division 3 High School football teams if this man owned the Bills. (Please catch my sarcasm). But yea, NO to Jacobs.

[diggemsmack]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k142/geebeediggem/buffalo-bills-logocopy.jpg

[THATHURMANATOR]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k142/geebeediggem/buffalo-bills-logocopy.jpg
This made me puke in my mouth.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

You're right. NFL rules used to disallow someone from cross-ownership in another major sports league. Now it is allowed as long as the other team is in the same city. So since the Sabres are in the same city as the Bills, it would be ok.

I didn't realize the NFL had loosened the rules on cross-ownership.

and you don't even need to read the rule book to know that. just remember that at one point, H. Wayne Huizenga (spelling) owned all of south florida at once (panthers, marlins, dolphins, maybe heat) to know that it is possible to own to franchises @ once.

[CoolBreeze]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Jacobs

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/Q1UZ.html

http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/16/forbes-400-billionaires-lists-400list08_cx_mn_0917richamericans_land.html