Mike Williams or Whitner

[TheMan08]

Bigger Bust. Whitner by default

[TheMan08]

Re: I edited Mike Williams Wiki Page

do you mean this page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wi...ensive_lineman

They changed it back so i changed the thread cause i couldn't delete

[THATHURMANATOR]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Bigger Bust. Whitner by default

There are way bigger busts than Whitner man.

[BillsWin]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Whitner isnt a bust yet, but he is almost there...

[Mahdi]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Bigger Bust. Whitner by default

How bout we field an NFL caliber DL before we call Whitner a bust.

There isn't ONE good safety in the league who doesn't play behind a good DL. They go hand in hand and Whitner will always be average so long as the DL is weak.

[OpIv37]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

How bout we field an NFL caliber DL before we call Whitner a bust.

There isn't ONE good safety in the league who doesn't play behind a good DL. They go hand in hand and Whitner will always be average so long as the DL is weak.

How bout we stop making excuses for Whitner and just admit that he's mediocre? It's never his fault- it's always the coaches, the system, the DL... it's never Whitner's fault. I don't know why people can't just admit that he doesn't live up to expectations.

Seriously, I consider a bust to be a player who is completely useless, and Mike Williams is far more of a bust than Whitner. It's not even close. But there is no doubt that Whitner has not lived up to this expectations and I don't get this pathological refusal to hold the guy accountable for his play.

[ddaryl]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Until Whitner starts making plays he is just an average player

Mike Williams is a MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger bust IMO. He wasn't even average after his 1st year

[billsfanone]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Whitner is far from a bust. Is he #11 caliber, no. But he's a starting safety on any team. Average at best.

[Mitchell55]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

McCargo, Flowers, Williams, all bigger bust frm just the past 10 years. There are some more all time

[Mitchell55]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Whitner is far from a bust. Is he #11 caliber, no. But he's a starting safety on any team. Average at best.

#8. Lets put it this way, if he was the 15th pick, he would be overated on these boards.

[OpIv37]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

McCargo, Flowers, Williams, all bigger bust frm just the past 10 years. There are some more all time

You forgot Losman.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Bigger Bust. Whitner by default

Williams because he was drafted higher and paid more money, I think.

Whitner is also a bust though.

[ddaryl]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

McCargo, Flowers, Williams, all bigger bust frm just the past 10 years. There are some more all time

McCargo gets one more training camp / preseason and possible season to prove he is a bust or not.

[billsfanone]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

#8. Lets put it this way, if he was the 15th pick, he would be overated on these boards.

Whatever. I agree. He's not even a #15. I'd say he'd be worth it if he was a 2nd rounder. Hindsight is 50/50 though. I don't think it was a bad pick. At least he's serviceable.

[OpIv37]

Re: Mike Williams or Whitner

Whatever. I agree. He's not even a #15. I'd say he'd be worth it if he was a 2nd rounder. Hindsight is 50/50 though. I don't think it was a bad pick. At least he's serviceable.

He is serviceable, but when you combine Whitner's play with the opportunity cost of taking Whitner over some of the guys drafted after him, it was a bad pick.

And hindsight is 50/50? WTF does that mean?

I think you meant 20/20.