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  • TheMan08
    Knocks only the living.
    • Oct 2008
    • 748

    Trading Spikes was a mistake

    We got nothing.

    He had a very good year last year. Even at his age and injuries... he blows away Ellison.

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    Last edited by TheMan08; 05-12-2009, 01:07 AM.
  • Griz78
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 266

    #2
    Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

    I believe Marv Levy, as great a coach he was and man he is, made some pretty crappy personnel moves in his time as GM.

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    • ddaryl
      Everything I post is sexual inuendo
      • Jan 2005
      • 10714

      #3
      Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

      the guy made way too much money and it took him a few years to get back into playing at a this level. We basically would have been paying spikes 5 + million a season to work his way back to playing condition.

      no mistake here at all..

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      • User Manuel
        The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
        • Nov 2003
        • 2662

        #4
        Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

        I would have a tough time blaming anyone for the Spikes move. Injuries happen and in the age of the cap he was too big a risk.

        Plus, he was a good linebacker on a bad, bad team. See a pattern?

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101230

          #5
          Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

          Originally posted by ddaryl
          the guy made way too much money and it took him a few years to get back into playing at a this level. We basically would have been paying spikes 5 + million a season to work his way back to playing condition.

          no mistake here at all..
          And what did we do with that $5 million? Ralph put it in his pocket.

          If we had used that money to extend another player or sign a FA, then I'd agree with you. But we didn't.

          Honestly, though, even though Spikes was my favorite player during his tenure here, I think letting Fletcher walk was a bigger mistake. Fletch is still tearing it up in DC, and if we kept him then Poz could play outside, which is a more natural position for him.
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          • ddaryl
            Everything I post is sexual inuendo
            • Jan 2005
            • 10714

            #6
            Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

            we traded Spikes to Philly.... and they didn't even keep him.

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101230

              #7
              Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

              Originally posted by ddaryl
              we traded Spikes to Philly.... and they didn't even keep him.
              the logic doesn't follow on this one.

              Philly's a much better overall team than we are. Just because they didn't keep Spikes doesn't change the fact that he's still better than Ellison.
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              • madness
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 13690

                #8
                Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                That trade gave us a promising young receiver in Steve Johnson (not bad for a 7th rounder) and was part of the ammunition needed to pull off the Stroud deal (D. Walker trade to the Bears). Considering he was released from Philly, there really isn't any hindsight in this scenario.

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                • madness
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 13690

                  #9
                  Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                  Originally posted by OpIv37
                  the logic doesn't follow on this one.

                  Philly's a much better overall team than we are. Just because they didn't keep Spikes doesn't change the fact that he's still better than Ellison.
                  Spikes would have been released from Detroit that year.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101230

                    #10
                    Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                    Originally posted by madness
                    That trade gave us a promising young receiver in Steve Johnson (not bad for a 7th rounder) and was part of the ammunition needed to pull off the Stroud deal (D. Walker trade to the Bears). Considering he was released from Philly, there really isn't any hindsight in this scenario.
                    except for the fact that it's two years later and we still haven't found anyone to fill that spot except for Spikes' backup, who sucks.
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                    • venis2k1
                      Youboty can hope
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4621

                      #11
                      Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                      I think Crowell did a pretty good job replacing spikes.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101230

                        #12
                        Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                        Originally posted by venis2k1
                        I think Crowell did a pretty good job replacing spikes.
                        well we haven't had him since '07, and Ellison sucks.
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                        • HHURRICANE
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 15490

                          #13
                          Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                          Originally posted by TheMan08
                          We got nothing.

                          He had a very good year last year. Even at his age and injuries... he blows away Ellison.

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                          Spikes was a shell of himself out there.

                          You have to judge players while they are playing so what they do later is irrelevant. Lawyer Milloy looked much better in Atlanta but I don't blame the Bills one bit for getting rid of him.

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                          • Jan Reimers
                            Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                            • May 2003
                            • 17353

                            #14
                            Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                            At the time Spikes was released, he was a shell of his former self who was nowhere near being worth the money he was making. It was also well understood that players almost never were the same after severe achilles tendon injuries.

                            The Bills can be criticized for never finding an All Pro replacement, but I can't imagine how they can be blamed for trading an expensive, ineffective player with the type of injury which almost always impedes a ploayer for the rest of his career.
                            Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                            • TheMan08
                              Knocks only the living.
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 748

                              #15
                              Re: Trading Spikes was a mistake

                              Spikes is doing great in San Fran

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