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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

    I'm a very positive fan and this recent off-season/draft finally showed the right path to building something long term.

    I'm still sobered by the fact Jauron is still here & is usually outmatched by his couterpart most every game. I've lost count how many close games he played scared and got us beat with bad calls. He's basically gutless.

    They must overcome Jaurons' affinity for FG attempts over TD's on O and giving up lots of plays underneath on D, since he considers not giving up the long TD a win, even if his D gets rolled and loses the game.

    I still think he prevents this team from winning 3 close games a season and if Bobby April takes over this year, we'll be far better in the long run with this improved roster.

    The best thing that could happen is the Bills do run the no huddle and Schonert has the O moving better than expected. Then Jauron would have to step out of the way.

    Can we win in spite of him ? I've been sitting in the stands since the mid 1960's and he's one of the worst game managers I've ever seen.

    Please stay out of the way, Jauron.
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit
  • SabreEleven
    Registered User
    • Aug 2002
    • 39563

    #2
    Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

    Originally posted by Night Train
    The best thing that could happen is the Bills do run the no huddle and Schonert has the O moving better than expected. Then Jauron would have to step out of the way.
    This will give Jauron less chance to think and less time to screw things up.

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    • casdhf
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 17542

      #3
      Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

      I think its playoffs or bust this year for Dick.
      Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
      cas,

      I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

      BillsZone Mod

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      • FlyingDutchman
        Registered User
        • Apr 2005
        • 5074

        #4
        Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

        I agree. Players love him, but as far as Xs and Os he is terrible. He shows no emotion to his team and sometimes I even wonder if he has a pulse. I want someone with some passion on the sideline and who will take a chance. I want Shottenhiemer.

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        • yordad
          Registered User
          • Dec 2007
          • 11867

          #5
          Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

          I can't disagree.
          "Heck, now I am glad his overrated arce made the pro bowl, else we would have only got a 3rd." ~ yordad

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          • sdbillsfan2
            Registered User
            • Apr 2005
            • 1164

            #6
            Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

            I've been thinking the same as everyone else so far. I agree this might be Dick's last stand. What really concerns me is, if and when he finally gets the boot , were going to be back at square one .
            Hell I'm not getting any younger here , and after 50 years , I'd love to see a little more then the playoffs.

            " I'd try to see things from your point of view but..........there's only room up your a** for one head ! "

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            • BillsWin
              man amongst boys
              • Oct 2008
              • 6025

              #7
              Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

              I want Billick...
              I am The Batman.

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              • raphael120
                Jason Peters rigorous at home training regiment
                • Oct 2005
                • 5152

                #8
                Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                ill take a wet napkin, it has more personality than jauron

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                • feldspar
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 13620

                  #9
                  Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                  There is no way that what happens this year won't determine Jauron's future in Buffalo.

                  Hell, Mike Holmgren wants to return to coaching. Then you have guys like Mike Shanahan and Jon Gruden...that's three Head Coaches on the market that have actually won Super Bowls. Would Buffalo do what it takes to land one of these guys is the question.

                  Dick gets one more chance. That's it. The guy is likable, and I really do hope he succeeds...not just because he is the coach of my team. The more logical side of my brain tells me that he won't succeed, but my heart is with him...so there you have it. My heart won't be with him if we go 7-9 again. There is only so much I can take.

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                  • LifetimeBillsFan
                    All-Pro Zoner
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 4946

                    #10
                    Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                    Forget Jauron's personality. His job is to win football games, not entertain the fans or media or make them feel warm and fuzzy. Tom Landry never broke a smile for YEARS (in fact, the TV announcers made a big deal of it the first time he was seen smiling on camera), but he won a TON of football games.

                    Jauron has done a great job of getting a young team to play hard even against much better teams and pretty well disciplined football (as evidenced by how few penalties they have gotten). His players like him a lot and he seems to be able to get his point across to them without screaming and hollering at them.

                    But, he has been a horrible "in-game" coach. And, he has given his assistants far too free a hand in making critical decisions during the course of a game (ie P.Fewell playing the DBs off Dallas' WRs at the end of the MNF game). Poor coaching decisions have cost the Bills at least two winnable games in each of the last two seasons (on the other hand, his conservative coaching has also put the Bills in a position to win some games that shouldn't have been close).

                    The only thing that gives me any hope is that Jauron, when speaking to the media back in January, acknowledged the fact that he and his staff had made a number of bad decisions and done things poorly during the course of last season--and, he said, that he and his staff would have to find ways to improve on this during the offseason.

                    Jauron is an intelligent guy, so I won't rule out the possibility that he can make improvements out of hand, but I will believe it when I see it. However, he and his staff will HAVE to make those improvements for the Bills to have a shot at making the playoffs this season. And, if they don't, they will be out of work at the end of the season.

                    I've said this before and I will say it again: I think that Jauron is a good coach to take a young team and mold them into a decent team, but I'm really not sure if he is a good enough "in-game" coach to get that team "over-the-hump" and into the playoffs. It is quite possible that it will take another HC to take this team to the next level where they can be serious playoff contenders (much in the way that it took Lovie Smith taking over in Chicago to get the Bears to the next level).

                    We will see whether Jauron will have improved enough this offseason to get this Bills team into the playoffs or not.
                    Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And, thus it was that they surrendered their freedom; not with a bang, but without even a whimper.

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                    • Don't Panic
                      All-Pro Zoner
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 4227

                      #11
                      Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                      Jauron could not ask for a much better situation than this... if you make it to year four as a head coach with the same team, all without having a single winning season, you have to consider your self lucky. In that time, he has had the opportunity to develop his own players that were drafted and to bring in free agents who fit his model. Success this year is the only thing that keeps his tenure going to year 5. How to define that is debatable, but one must think that the playoffs at aminimum and possibly even a good showing would be necessities. If not, as was mentioned, there are quite a few guys on the sidelines waiting to get back in the game.

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                      • don137
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7720

                        #12
                        Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                        Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
                        I agree. Players love him, but as far as Xs and Os he is terrible. He shows no emotion to his team and sometimes I even wonder if he has a pulse. I want someone with some passion on the sideline and who will take a chance. I want Shottenhiemer.
                        I think he is a good Xs and Os coach but he is a terrible game day coach.

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                        • Mahdi
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 10585

                          #13
                          Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                          Jauron is a coach playing short-handed every Sunday. When you know you dont match up against those you are competing against it alters your mindset and how you approach games.

                          The Bills are weak in too many critical areas for a coach to be able to call a game as he normally would.

                          Lets re-cap.... up until now the DEs have been weak, OL has been weak, QB has been weak and receivers have been weak.....

                          Sorry but the fact that we actually won 7 games last season and the season before is a highlight on Jauron's resume.

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                          • Mr. Pink
                            Peterman Sucks!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 35303

                            #14
                            Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                            Originally posted by LifetimeBillsFan
                            Forget Jauron's personality. His job is to win football games, not entertain the fans or media or make them feel warm and fuzzy. Tom Landry never broke a smile for YEARS (in fact, the TV announcers made a big deal of it the first time he was seen smiling on camera), but he won a TON of football games.

                            Jauron has done a great job of getting a young team to play hard even against much better teams and pretty well disciplined football (as evidenced by how few penalties they have gotten). His players like him a lot and he seems to be able to get his point across to them without screaming and hollering at them.

                            But, he has been a horrible "in-game" coach. And, he has given his assistants far too free a hand in making critical decisions during the course of a game (ie P.Fewell playing the DBs off Dallas' WRs at the end of the MNF game). Poor coaching decisions have cost the Bills at least two winnable games in each of the last two seasons (on the other hand, his conservative coaching has also put the Bills in a position to win some games that shouldn't have been close).

                            The only thing that gives me any hope is that Jauron, when speaking to the media back in January, acknowledged the fact that he and his staff had made a number of bad decisions and done things poorly during the course of last season--and, he said, that he and his staff would have to find ways to improve on this during the offseason.

                            Jauron is an intelligent guy, so I won't rule out the possibility that he can make improvements out of hand, but I will believe it when I see it. However, he and his staff will HAVE to make those improvements for the Bills to have a shot at making the playoffs this season. And, if they don't, they will be out of work at the end of the season.

                            I've said this before and I will say it again: I think that Jauron is a good coach to take a young team and mold them into a decent team, but I'm really not sure if he is a good enough "in-game" coach to get that team "over-the-hump" and into the playoffs. It is quite possible that it will take another HC to take this team to the next level where they can be serious playoff contenders (much in the way that it took Lovie Smith taking over in Chicago to get the Bears to the next level).

                            We will see whether Jauron will have improved enough this offseason to get this Bills team into the playoffs or not.


                            Agree completely. Jauron isn't a terrible coach...he's taken a team that since he's been here is below average and coached them up to a competitive level.

                            Sure he makes mistakes in some games, but with this roster, it's a miracle to even be around .500 every year.

                            This is a make or break year for Jauron seeing we have some more pieces in place to be more dynamic on the field. Unfortunately with the absolutely brutal schedule we have in place I don't think we're going to do much better than in previous seasons.

                            Having a coach that gets his talent to play above their ability, believe in the system and like him is very important in this league...too bad on gamedays he has lockdowns from time to time. But one cannot say he has taken a team with the talent level of an expansion team and gotten everything he could out of them and more.

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                            • Jan Reimers
                              Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                              • May 2003
                              • 17353

                              #15
                              Re: Roster Will Still Have To Overcome Jauron To Win

                              Originally posted by Mahdi
                              Jauron is a coach playing short-handed every Sunday. When you know you dont match up against those you are competing against it alters your mindset and how you approach games.

                              The Bills are weak in too many critical areas for a coach to be able to call a game as he normally would.

                              Lets re-cap.... up until now the DEs have been weak, OL has been weak, QB has been weak and receivers have been weak.....

                              Sorry but the fact that we actually won 7 games last season and the season before is a highlight on Jauron's resume.
                              I guess this lack of talent causes him to totally mismanage the clock, misuse his timeouts, and mangle his challenges?

                              I don't disagree that weaknesses at key positions is a major problem, and that Jauron might alter his playcalling because of it, but I don't see how it affects time/timeout management.
                              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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